Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/In Mint Condition: 2013

Hello, Shannon here. I am the owner of the publisher Ambannon Books and the editor of In Mint Condition: 2013, the book/article in question. As this is my first Wikipedia page (now deleted), I'd like to discuss some points brought up by some people in this page:

'''- Non-notable yet-to-be-published book with no references. Non-notable (fan fiction?) authors. No indication the publishers exist either. Disputed prod. noq (talk) 16:21, 2 September 2012 (UTC)''' The book will be published/released this month. It will have an ISBN and be available to the public. We will have over 100+ reviewers including magazines, newspapers, blogs, and websites. Four of the artists in the book have their own Wikipedia pages. None of the work is fan-fiction. We exist as a publisher, as we have a business license, a website, and customers. This is our first publication, but we are already working on our second and third projects.

'''- Delete. If the authors are anonymous they cannot be assessed for notability; the publisher is seemingly unknown to the Internet. No reliable sources can possibly be available for an as-yet unpublished book. Also infringes WP:CRYSTAL, etc. Ubelowme U Me 20:00, 2 September 2012 (UTC)''' The authors aren't anonymous, I named all the editors, authors, and artists on the wikipedia page. They are also available on our website, and every other place mentioning the book. Speaking of which, how can the publisher be unknown to the internet when a Google search of the name brings up many websites mentioning the company and the book?

'''- Delete - All works in this unpublished anthology will be created by the members of the fansite thedarktower.org which happens to be to only site even mentioning the publisher Ambannon Books. Tl;dr: WP:V, WP:N and WP:TOOSOON. jonkerz ♠talk 20:03, 2 September 2012 (UTC)''' Again, a Google search brings up other websites that mention the company and the book. When we release/publish the book and it goes out to all of our reviewers, the idea is that many, many sources will mention us by name.

'''- Delete. There is zero coverage of this anywhere but on the DarkTower forums. This is ultimately a non-notable upcoming book that is being published by one of the forum posters. Not notable.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC) Also of note is that this was added by the publisher. The screen name of the original editor is the same as the email that is posted on the Dark Tower forum. This might be able to be speedied as promotion.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC) WP:COI≠WP:SPAM: clearly there's a conflict of interest, but the article isn't overtly (or even slightly) promotional. We shouldn't assume promotion just because there's a COI; rather, we should judge the article for any WP:NPOV/WP:SPAM issues. matt (talk) 07:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)''' This isn't promotion or spam, the article is informational. We have professional artists working on the book, some of which have Wikipedia pages, some of which surprisingly do not. Most of the authors are unknown, but in a month or so, they will be officially published authors.

Now, again, this is my first Wikipedia article. I would love some assistance so that the next time I go through the work of making sure the page looks JUST right, it doesn't get deleted. Speaking of which, is my "page" saved somewhere? Because I thought it looked damn good. The book itself is being released/published this month. We have more books and projects down the line, and we're not going anywhere anytime soon. I'm assuming we need more people to talk about us to be "notable", and that all happens this month or next month, with the reviewers. But ... isn't THAT the definition of promotion? Any help would be appreciated, thank you.


 * Just recreating the article is likely to get it deleted again. Please read WP::conflict of interest and WP:spam. Also WP:NBOOK would be appropriate to read as is WP:reliable sources, WP:original research and WP:verifiability. noq (talk) 08:54, 4 October 2013 (UTC)