Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Jack Hammer (porn actor)

Closing
(I put this on the talk page of the closing admin. As can be seen below, he didn't accept my arguments, and as he writes, it's not of tremendous importance, but I thought it should at least be associated with the AFD. AnonEMouse (squeak) 20:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC))

Articles for deletion/Jack Hammer (porn actor)

You closed that as a no consensus - I think if you look again, you'll see that was a keep.

The nominator wrote "Not sure if this guy fits the notability criteria for pornstars on WP... Any porn buffs wanna help out?" - that was his entire comment. Four other editors commented. The first, the only one "voting" Delete, said "I'm not a porn buff", specifically in response to that question. The other three all voted Keep and cited WP:PORN BIO, which is the proposed "notability criteria for pornstars on WP". There is no other. (Joe Beaudoin, who didn't explicitly cite WP:PORN BIO, only cited my argument which cited it, in fact originated WP:PORN BIO. You can also take a look at his signature. :-) ) That's pretty clearly responding positively to the nominator's request. We may or may not be porn buffs in general, but we know a thing or two about porn on WP.

Therefore, I believe the nominator's "vote" should essentially be interpreted as a keep, since he seemed to be deferring to the opinions of more knowledgeable editors, and all he got were "keep"s. Even if you don't buy that argument, clearly the nom never argued for deletion.

That makes either 75% or 80% for Keep. If you don't like the numerical tally, and prefer to look at the arguments, the only argument for deletion was "Fails WP:BIO, does not assert notability" - and I asserted notability by adding film count to the article.

Whew. All that arguing for an almost academic distinction between keep by consensus or keep by no consensus. :-) AnonEMouse (squeak) 19:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Well I interpreted the nom's opinion slightly differently than you did. I can see the result both ways, and I did consider just putting it as keep, and could easily have done. However, does it really matter? Result was the same in the end- article was kept. Petros471 19:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)