Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Kapya John Kaoma

A number of solid cited references were added. This just seems an aggressive and and frankly biased nomination for deletion.Chip.berlet (talk) 19:27, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Kapya John Kaoma

red dogsix posted this below on my personal talk page. I think that is not appropriate under the circumstances of a call for a broader discussion.Chip.berlet (talk) 02:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

According to red dogsix
 * I suggest you read WP:AGF and WP: UNCIVIL before making comments about other editors.  Your comment about bias is not only unfounded, it is not appreciated and is contrary to the Wikipedia community guidelines. If you feel I am bias, feel free to report me to the Admin board.


 * I: suggest you focus on the AfD and proving the adequacy of the article references and support. red dogsix (talk) 19:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Kapya John Kaoma
Hi there (talk). I think your bias is obvious. I would be happy to discuss it here. I have been to Arbcom, thanks, it is not necessary here. You dismiss this entry for what specific reasons? Kapya John Kaoma is an internationally recognized human rights advocate mentioned in news accounts with several awards and many books and essays. Is it because he is Black? An African by birth? Pro-LGTBQ? A Christian? A progressive? Please explain! I cannot understand your issues unless you put theme here in detail--on the appropriate entry page, not on my personal Page. I find your posting on my personal talk page to be inappropriate.Chip.berlet (talk) 02:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I stand by my prior comments that your statement {and continued statement) is not in the spirit of Wikipedia and that the article does not meet the criteria for inclusion.  I also again suggest that you read WP:AGF and WP:UNCIVIL before continuing to make outrageous unsupported statements. Focus on the AfD, if I am wrong the community will fix my mistake and confirm its inclusion into Wikipedia. Let me repeat that,  if I am wrong the community will fix my mistake and confirm its inclusion into Wikipedia.  For goodness sakes, stop looking for zebras in a field of horses - it is better for one's blood pressure. My best to you. red dogsix (talk) 13:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

I am forced to respond to this uncalled for arrogance and ignorance exhibited by(talk, advocating for the deletion of Kaoma. The claim that the Guardian Video was posted by Kapya Kaoma simply shows the maximum ignorance or mere laziness to follow Kaoma's works. Did Kaoma also post his coverage by The New York Times, Times (UK), Time magazine, The Economist, Mother Jones, and countless news organizations and academics around the world who have cited his works? (talk Love him or hate him, he is a leading and respectable scholar with great integrity. You may not agree with Kaoma's views, but that is not the reason to advocate for his removal! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chichi Chilufya (talk • contribs)


 * @Chichi Chilufya - You and Chip.berlet suffer from the same malady, a lack of an understanding of the standards of Wikipedia. As I have told Chip, read WP:AGFand WP:UNCIVIL before responding or addressing editors.  Second, your lack of understanding of what it takes to support and article is gigantic.  The "coverage by The New York Times, Times (UK), Time magazine, The Economist, Mother Jones, and countless news organizations" are brief quotes or single line references - far from what is needed to support inclusion.  There is no in-depth, non-trivial support.  In spite of what you and Chip try to make out of this, his views are not at issue.  Only if the article meets the criteria for inclusion.   red <b style="color:#000;">dog</b><i style="color:#000;">six</i> (talk) 02:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Kapya John Kaoma -- More Discussion?
The Wikipedia page for Kapya John Kaoma has had numerous additional cites added. Rev. Kaoma is recognized internationally as a leader in the struggle for human rights for the LGBTQ communities in Africa. This is documented in the new references. Chip.berlet (talk) 19:47, 7 August 2018 (UTC)