Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Lady Ballers

Funny movie
Is WikiPedia a site that cannot tolerate a funny movie and has to delete it or censor it due to power politics?

It's a funny movie. 2600:1007:B031:2D0B:1DE5:8984:6575:7E71 (talk) 04:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't think it should be deleted, but there needs to be a stronger balance of opinion, especially regarding the 'reception' paragraph. The whole article reads like a advertisement for the movie Barrylopezjnr (talk) 03:56, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion for deletion.
I see the page was nominated for deletion, but there isnt a discussion started yet. Any reason for deletion? JuliusPilsudski (talk) 01:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The 'reception' paragraph doesn't provide any political balance regarding quoted sources. Every quote/review is from a conservative outlet which are obviously all leaning to the positive. Barrylopezjnr (talk) 03:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Since when is political balance considered for whether a page should be deleted or not? Ridiculous.  It’s an attempt at censorship by a dead brained liberal as per usual. 172.220.189.218 (talk) 18:12, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

deleting this is political censorship
would wikipedia advocate the deletion of a *pro*-trans indi film? Redardvark23239 (talk) 03:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @great point Roadhockey (talk) 20:04, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * They absolutely would not. This is EXACTLY why I don’t financially support them anymore.  I used to do so but no more. 172.220.189.218 (talk) 18:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Removal of comments including personal attacks
I'm seeing quite a lot of uncivilized comments from random IPs including personal attacks. I was going to just remove these comments as they don't help the discussion at all, but I don't know if this is the correct way to proceed. Skyshifter  talk  22:09, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * IMO the entire discussion should be closed. I don’t see consensus forming for deletion and anything more at this point just seems unproductive. Kcmastrpc (talk) 23:55, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure. Still there are many uncivilized comments and personal attacks being made, with some comments close to being considered transphobia/LGBTphobia. I believe these comments, or at least parts of them, really should be deleted. Some people apparently forgot we are discussing Lady Ballers, not the nominator. Skyshifter   talk  00:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've removed a comment containing purposeful misgendering. Reading some of the comments at this AfD is just saddening. Skyshifter   talk  00:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Skyshifter, I personally disagree with the edit removing that comment and labelled as 'removing transphobia'.
 * Something about it just looks a bit off, and could be interpreted by someone as something that you removed because you disagreed with them, rather than because the comment itself didn't belong there.
 * I.e, was that comment a personal attack? Did it violate a wikipedia policy (and if so which one), etc.
 * I'm not saying necessarily that comment should be there, rather that it would be better if the label for your edit there were more descriptive of why it was being removed.
 * Taking that user's comment under the benefit of the doubt, they are raising a concern about whether the AfD was being raised by someone under an agenda. They may be wrong, but this is a discussion page, and I think it would be fine for that to be left in place and responded to appropriately explaining why it may be wrong rather than just deleting it. Or perhaps if deleting, referencing a policy that states that it should be.
 * Just my 2 cents, I don't really know how things here should work but it feels odd seeing a comment removed from a discussion page with that note and so after seeing the mention on the talk page that you were unsure about it, i figured I would throw out how it looked to me.
 * Additionally... You mentioned intentional misgendering... While I realize Maddy (It was maddy from celeste that nominated this, right?) is a feminine sounding name, I'm not quite sure how that commenter was to know what Maddy's gender is. I think they may have done that just out of ignorance rather than intent. I realize it was a very right leaning comment with the rest of its content, but I don't know if that person cared enough to actually bother finding out which pronouns Maddy prefers and then use the wrong ones. I can tell you in writing this reply, I glanced at Maddy's page trying to see if they list their pronouns somewhere, so that I don't wind up making myself look foolish when writing this, and I have to say I couldn't find them there. (And if they are there someone please let me know because I'm new to wikipedia and the formatting on some pages is honestly a bit confusing for me, just being honest).
 * Anyways, appreciate that you cared and were trying to improve things ^_^ Heimerslinger (talk) 03:09, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Edit.... I still made myself look foolish. I looked back at their page again and realized their pronouns are in one of those colored images / banners at the top. My bad. I swear I looked at that page from top to bottom and expanded all of those user boxes, and still didn't quite notice. But given that that is one of the very first things there, please disregard that portion of my comment above, I can see how that might have been intentional misgendering. Heimerslinger (talk) 03:14, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That's okay. The biggest problem is that the user clearly saw the userboxes. I mean, their comment states that clearly ("according to [their] user page [...]"). That's an extremely red flag, along with the rest of their comment. Skyshifter   talk  03:22, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've redacted that comment using RPA. if anyone has a problem with my editing a closed discussion, I plead WP:IAR. Avoiding incivility and bigotry seems more important in this case. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 14:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)