Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to Islamize America


 * Comment. This has been wheeling, as 1) editor A says we need more x (e.g., sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary); 2) editor B (e.g., me) seeks to address that by putting it in the article; 3) editor C cries "coatrack"; 4) editor D (e.g., Firefly, well intentioned and seeking to satisfy editor C, deletes the material that addresses editor A's comment).

Since we can't very well discuss matters without people seeing the refs that were deleted, so that they can consider them, I'll for the moment park the most recently deleted text and refs below:

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...Bill Gertz, writing in the November 12 edition of the Washington Times: "Federal investigators chasing e-mail and other communication links between Fort Hood shooting suspect Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and radical Islamist cleric Anwar al-Awlaki should consult a new book that cites documents on the al Qaeda imam." ....Tom Tancredo (formerly R-CO), writing in the November 6 edition of the The Denver Post, noted that the book was already gaining attention as four Congressman have asked the House sergeant-at-arms to investigate allegations in the book of double agents having been placed inside Congress by CAIR, and opined that the book's: "'allegations will be dismissed as alarmist by many, but critics will have to confront the book's extensive documentation. Its authors ... have national security backgrounds and solid reputations. The most controversial part of the book is the relationship between CAIR and the international Muslim Brotherhood... Our nation's news media often turn to CAIR for a 'moderate Muslim response' to events of the day. Yet this book shows that the mask of moderation covers its real mission....if the authors ... are correct, we ... may well be growing and training our own brand of domestic terrorists who know how to destroy our nation from within.'"

The New English Review reviewed the book on October 14, 2009, writing "It is an important assessment of the threat of the Muslim Brotherhood in America." Phyllis Chester, reviewing the book for Pajamas Media, called it "an important, perhaps even an explosive and sensational book". A review of the book by Investigative Project suggested that the book simply confirmed with examples what was already known, noting: "The book reinforces th[e] conclusion [about CAIR] with internal examples."

The book, published three weeks prior to the Fort Hood shooting, contains one sentence that is especially distubing, given what happened three weeks later: "'A senior Homeland Security official warns that Aulaqi—whom he describes as an 'al-Qaida supporter'—is actively targeting U.S. Muslims with radical online lectures ecouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen.'"

As it turns out, the sole suspect in the Fort Hood shooting, Nidal Malik Hasan, attended the the Dar al-Hijrah mosque when Anwar al-Awlaki was the imam there, and Hasan reportedly has deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings. Furthermore,intelligence agencies intercepted 10 to 20 emails over several months starting in December 2008 until early 2009 between Hasan and al-Awlaki. Soon after the attack, a posting on al-Awlaki's website praised Hasan for the shooting, and encouraged other Muslims serving in the military to "follow in the footsteps of men like Nidal," though the Los Angeles Times reported that the posting could not be confirmed immediately to have been authored by al-Awlaki.

--Epeefleche (talk) 18:32, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Please summarize. It's too much information.  After you've refined it, add it back in on the other page. --Firefly322 (talk) 18:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The way you put it back in with the collapsible box works for me. I say Good job!. --Firefly322 (talk) 20:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)