Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Nader El-Bizri

The "Nader El-Bizri" article has existed since 2008 with hundreds of edits by multiple users. I rechecked the webpage at AUB and downloaded El-Bizri's summary CV from it. His notability is not to be determined by users who do not specialize in academia, not judged like ranks in the army or in the corporate scale, nor is this a forum for users who are not academics to determine the worth of the contributions of living academics! EdwardX who requested the deletion specializes in businessmen and billionaires (you could check his userpage), hence he is not in a position to decide on the notability of academics who received international awards (El-Bizri's KFAS awards, as shown in the external links of the page: Ordered Universe Project etc.) or as someone who is seen as a Thought Leader in the Arab world. Most of the individual businessmen and billionaires that EdwardX is covering in many articles are mainly company CEOs, and would not pass any notability scale, and yet this is left unckecked! Some practices on wikipedia are scandalous; they amount to vandalism and are left unmonitored. This lowers significantly the integrity of wikipedia and it is left to amateurs to decide what goes and what stays. I see this as malicious, or at best as harmful randomness in decision (AcademeEditorial (talk) 11:41, 8 July 2017 (UTC))

How can this be brought to the attention of serious and responsible administrators, and to those who have some clue about academia? Such randomness is unacceptable and harmful, especially when there are no grounds for it, and with an article that existed for 9 years and received hundreds of edits by numerous users and seasoned editors. The article is mentioned also in a very large number of wikipedia other articles, and the person that it covers received many awards and honors, etc. It is regrettable that someone from the corporate domain decides who stays and who goes in connection with academics, thinkers and scholars. This is an unchecked abuse of policy altogether. I hope that El-Bizri notices this and reports such libelous act (AcademeEditorial (talk) 11:50, 8 July 2017 (UTC))
 * Your attitude towards fellow editors here is shitty. Your conclusions about fellow editors ("from the corporate domain") are distasteful and unwelcome. I suggest you read up about wikipedia editing policy before you put your big feet even further down your own throat. I would also appreciate an answer to my question below. -Roxy the dog. bark 16:21, 8 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Roxy. You have been aggressive throughout the day towards my contributions, and using tacit and at times explicit forms of intimidation and verbal abuse. This is right, and this is not a forum for discussing your qualities or mine, rather the aim is the article itself. I hope this whole exchange turns into a constructive responsible discussion (AcademeEditorial (talk) 20:48, 8 July 2017 (UTC))

A call for responsible editors to check this matter
Please check what is taking place around the article "Nader El-Bizri" since this was proposed for deletion, but the reasons put forward touch upon statements that harm the reputation of the living person it covers. The ranking and merits of the work of a living person should be judged by their peers and not simply by random wikipedia users, especially if the deletion has not been requested by someone specializing in academia but by someone who has been covering businessmen and billionaires. Please check this serious matter since it lowers the integrity of wikipedia and causes actual harm to living people, especially if they are in the public domain and well known in their field (2A02:C7D:36C6:8300:8170:FF93:C1C4:942C (talk) 12:14, 8 July 2017 (UTC))

For other wikipedia editors: Look first at his university official AUB.edu webpage such, then double click on it his summary official CV. Look also at one of the most prestigious awards in the Arab world he received as noted on the official website of the Ordered Universe Project under the patronage of the AHRC in the UK. See also this noted on the university website. Then look at his ranking 59 as Thought Leader in the Arab world (and this groups not only philosophers but scientists, journalists, activists, religious authorities, poets), you have to search within the rankings and designate the subfield of philosophy and he is 3rd in the Arab world (and the Arabs have very rarely philosophers nowadays!). This is the tip of what you can find about him, many others poop up in the dozens of Google search pages, if time is taken properly all the editing decisions made with haste will be avoided (AcademeEditorial (talk) (AcademeEditorial (talk) 14:41, 8 July 2017 (UTC))
 * OK, I will check, but are you both accounts here, the IP being you, but not signed in? -Roxy the dog. bark 15:27, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

The nomination for deletion may have violated Wikipedia
The nomination for deletion may have violated the policies of wikipedia since this article exists since 2008 and received nearly 1000 edits; so it is not up to a single user to arbitrarily call for its deletion and disregard all the edits it received over 9 years; especially if the one calling for deletion specializes not at all in academia but in covering hundreds of businessmen! Is this a democratic open practice or randomness that causes harm? (2A02:C7D:36C6:8300:8170:FF93:C1C4:942C (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC))
 * I would like to assure you that the nomination for deletion has not violated any policies. You can stop worrying about that. -Roxy the dog. bark 15:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)