Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Project home 2010

Project Home 2010 is a private research program think tank experiment, and is legitimate. The company funding the project is out of Australia and the laboratory is located in Connecticut USA.
 * The credibility of the project is highly suspect. It is unlikely any corporation would invest its future in two 12 year old students, no matter what level of promise they showed.  The project's homepage on Angelfire looks like it WAS developed by a twelve year old.  And the only other links I can find in Google are by the two alleged members of the project attempting to link their research into established physics forums, where they have been summarily laughed off. I am going to copy this discussion to the main page, which is where the AfD debate should occur.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I must note that in regard to those forum boards, the forums that have a population of serious professionals never tried to discredit the project in any way, however the boards where someone was mentioning Project Home 2010 that has immature replies were boards where there were a particular group of lesser impartial individuals. Other topics on those boards had the same reaction. On that "quack" board I did notice that the one that made that comment apologized further down the page after they found out the project was the real deal. Any postings of the project on message boards does not represent the academic atmosphere the project is surrounded with, or people that are working specifically in that field of study. The 2 honor students in the project are making great strides with their work there. They shouldn't be put down. They don't have PhDs in physics and don't work at some laboratory at a prestigious University, but they are 2 people devoting a lot of time and effort into their research. The project may not be front page New York Times, but it is a real science project the 2 kids are working on extracurricular while studying engineering in college, just as the information says. This is not an unusual thing. Project Home 2010 is paying for both of their college educations with a full scholarship trust fund, and the 2 students are International Honor Society inductees. That can be looked up. What if they did change the world someday? Most would be interested to learn about projects like this early in the event that it becomes something significant later. The engineering they are doing in the project has a lot of good ideas that other science majors could build on and develop themselves. I think it is noble of them to share their ideas and the work they have performed. Project Home 2010 is something of interest that is going on in the world that quite a few would be interested in knowing about. (Teacher) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.15.54.137 (talk) 00:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I have heard of Project Home 2010. It is a science program where the 2 students in it who are both ages 22 as of October 27, 2008 are well known in a positive way by the area residents as the students are seen testing their robots around the area often. The 2 students were noted in a newspaper article in a local town newspaper in the summer of 2004. When John or Matt are approached, they gladly explain what they are doing in that project, and how their robot works. The project does not have anything for sale and any claims of the project being any kind of 'spam' would be completely false. The information about the project was submitted to Wikipedia by educational staff involved with the project at the school under the presumption of trust in the integrity of Wikipedia and the professionalism of it's staff with the intention of sharing the work being done in the project without having the information exposed to vandalism or false, misleading or defaming statements made on this site about genuine information submitted here. The information being sent to that other secure site is a good idea to protect the information about that project from those who are a problem to Wikipedia by misusing Wikipedia to try to discredit valid facts submitted here. Doing so using actual names of organizations in the information being slanderized on Wikipedia could lead to legal implications also. I think it is a sad thing that innocent people can be lured by Wikipedia to share information about true facts only for the information to get misused here. When the Wikipedia information on Project Home 2010 is moved to that other secure page, hopefuly it can serve as constructive as was always the only intention.

Correct format for inclusion of scientific work
What is the correct format for inclusion of scientific work from a school science project? What would be correct encyclopedia format and category for such an entry, so that is would not be mistaken as being an advertisement.

The research work referred to is Project Home 2010. Recently it was submitted and mistaken as an advertisement when it was legitimate information submitted in good faith.

Project Home 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.43.178.242 (talk) 12:54, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not the correct place to promote this project because it's fails the WP:Notability guidelines. When others, such as the mainstream press, have taken notice of this project, then it will be time for a Wikipedia article on it.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  14:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I see. I was wondering how it is any different than, say, a Wikipedia entry describing "Walmart" corporation, with the description of what it is. Is there an appropriate format that is similar that only explains to people what the project is, without going into details about achiievements made there (until such achievements become publicized that is). Is there an appropriate similar category for school science projects? Would it be accurate to reference the project through the college the project is through, being the college the 2 student members are attending and doing their research out of? I can assure that there is no ill intention associated with letting people know about the work in Project Home 2010 being done at the present time. We feel it will mean something someday.--155.43.178.242 (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)ConnCommunityCol.


 * Great -- when it becomes notable will be the time for a wikipedia article, and not before.


 * WP:Notability, WP:CRYSTAL and WP:ORG are guides you should read, because they have the answers to your questions.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  16:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)