Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Proofs against the hypothesis of Aryan Invasion

So you guys decided to delete the new research against Aryan invasion by reading through 20 something resources in like what 10 minutes ??? Oh please.

Further evidence of European propaganda showing a baseless theory in favourable light.

Thank you for the evidence guys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndoWarrior (talk • contribs) 19:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Nobody has decided to delete anything - it is open for discussion, at Articles for deletion/Proofs against the hypothesis of Aryan Invasion, where you are welcome to argue for its acceptance. But please note that Wikipedia is not a suitable forum for publishing new research - see WP:OR. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:09, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

yeah sure, but it is a very ideal tool for spreading fake propaganda about Indian history, No? Mr. Britain? Why are you so interested in Indian history and the black out of new evidence against the Aryan Invasion Mythos?

Your article on Aryan Invasion is biased and fake. All proofs are a work of interpretation and opinion where as the genetic evidence points to otherwise. You have the audasity to pass judgement on our proofs and presenting your mythology favourably under the disguise of being unbiased. All I need is some screen prints and I have all the evidence I need.

PS: This is not new research. You should be able to tell that by going through my biblography which supposedly you did in what? 10 minutes after the page was made Mr. liverpool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndoWarrior (talk • contribs) 19:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * As I say, feel free to make your case at Articles for deletion/Proofs against the hypothesis of Aryan Invasion. If the consensus agrees with you, the article will be kept - it's as simple as that. Regards -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:07, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

As I have said, your article "Indo-Aryan Migration" mythology, is baseless and should be deleted. You have no proof. in fact our proofs against it must be shown. Implementing a black out will not yield any thing trust me.

Wiki is being accused of spreading wrong propaganda about Indian History. With proof, we are going to make a documentary on how wiki manipulates and blacks out important proofs and know ledge which have an impact on history especially for European history. Wiki acts like its biased but it is not. There is always an information black out as is for the mythos of Aryan invasion.

Everything on genetics on this page is fact. It can be proven scientifically through papers. The opinionated argument put forward as in Indo-Aryan Migration wiki article: "Local political debate and implications

The debate over such a migration, and the accompanying influx of elements of Vedic religion from Central Asia is politically charged and hotly debated in modern India. Hindutva (Hindu nationalist) organizations, especially, mostly remain opposed to the concept. Outside India, the political overtones of the theory are not pronounced, and it is discussed in the larger framework of Indo-Iranian and Indo-European expansion.

Outside of academic debate, an "Indian Urheimat" has some proponents among writers linked to Hindu nationalism such as Elst (1999) and Kazanas (2001, 2002, 2009). "Out of India" scenarios locating the Indo-European homeland on the Indian subcontinent have gained currency in the Indian nationalist discourse since the 2000s."

and

"Most recent studies in the end of 20th century and beginning of 21st century, by various geneticists, however, do not indicate a significantly large migration of population since at least 10,000 years[citation needed].

OPINION=> It has to be taken into account, however,that such studies are based on modern genetic information, not on ancient DNA, and that due to the large error bars existing for the period in question (3000 years), Indo-Aryan migration cannot be distinguished from Persian, Macedonian Greek, Saka, Kushana, Turkic, Arab,and even European incursions into the subcontinent.

OPINION=> In addition to thus still possible smaller incursions by Indo-Aryan speakers, the decline of the Indus Valley Civilization because of change in geological and climatic conditions in the Indus Valley around 1900 BC, resulted in a gradual movement of the Indus Valley population towards the better-watered areas of Haryana and Gujarat, and subsequently to the Ganges and Yamuna rivers in the east, as indicated by recent discoveries of Indus Valley type small townships in Gujarat and Haryana in India. This opened up the Greater Panjab to semi-nomadic cattle herders such as the Indo-Aryans. The scenario under which a comparatively small group of migrants impacts culture far more than genetic makeup is a common one"

In genetics: Y Chromosome deteriorates as men evolve, and the first y-chromosome had all the genes while the latest Y chromosomes have lost genes. this is how we can track the migrations through DNA. Ever heard of spencer wells? any one??? Thats how geneticists can come to these conclusions and not opinions like above.

is evidence enough of contempt of Europeans in writing fairy tales as Indian history. There are other sites spreading fake information on this mythos based in germany, UK, USA, etc.

The west it seems takes a great interest in Indian history because they came from Indian population as proves genetic studies. This is unacceptable for Europeans and hence the black out is evident.

Conclusion: Wiki is just a western outlet for biased non-cohesive content trying to spread fake propaganda. This practice is abhorrent and will be discussed in future videos in youtube.

Mr. liverpool editing your Indo-Aryan Migration again to remove opiniated biase is of no use. I already have the screen shots. When your bias will reappear, we Indians will know what to expect.

There are similar sites like wiki:

www.historyforkids.org - based in USA www.indianchild.com - based in USA www.kidswebindia.com - based in USA www.indhistory.com - Based in China www.webindia123.com - Based in USA www.gatewayforindia.com - based in USA

U guys dont have any shame. You dont even leave our kids??? You target even our children with this mythology so that these unproven mythos gets validated and now they have the unbiased wiki.

Now we can actually do some work against your black out and propaganda to spread the baseless mythos of Aryan invasion rewriting Indian history as you see fit. Need to retire this mythology now.

I can challenge you and you will fail to prove Aryan mythos of yours because all you have is interpretation of our own text which we understand better. Genetics is against you. History is against your "Indo-Aryan Migration" article which is biased and baseless.

Stop spreading baseless mythologies, Mr. liver pool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndoWarrior (talk • contribs) 20:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)