Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Queen Elizabeth II's visit to the Republic of Ireland

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 * There is one key difference between this visit and the one of Obama to India: in 10 years, this visit will still be talked about as the turning point in British—Irish relations, leaving it with enduring notability. No one's talking about Obama's visit to India anymore, barely a few months later. I have removed the POV section from the article. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 02:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but that's the kind of thing you really only know after the fact. That's one of the reasons that we ordinarily should not write articles about events as they're happening.  --Trovatore (talk) 02:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I generally agree with that principle, and have !voted to delete similar articles in the past. However, in this case, there were already many, many available sources even before the event, and the article could theoretically have been written before the visit even began. The fact that it was started only hours before the visit doesn't change this. There was, and is, a lot of information around to justify an article. And the historical significance of the visit—even if it does not result in "enduring notability"—is great enough that WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENT do not apply. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 02:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If you read through the Obama AfD you will see an extremely fervent voice or two saying the same...the biggest event of the century, historic importance, bla bla bla. Their crystal balls were apparently a bit faulty, as that redlinked title is mighty shiny.  Also, don't make me the subject of section headers, pls.  Tweaked accordingly. Tarc (talk) 02:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I should know, I was one of them calling for a delete. This has been talked about as having such historic importance not only by multiple news sources but by many high-ranking diplomatic officials, and even well before (months in advance) of the visit, unlike in India with Obama's. The only claims I can see from the Obama AFD that the event was of importance was from the article author and his supporters. Here, the claim of historic importance is not being made only by me or any other editor, but by the people involved in the visit. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 02:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And I don't see how the historical significance of this visit can be compared to that of Obama's to India. The first-ever visit by a British monarch to the ROI since independence, considering the tense history between the two countries; and not the first-ever visit by a US President (albeit the first by that particular one) to India. Rather different. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 03:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)