Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Shaddai (god)

I think that there is merit to this topic remaining. If there are questions then maybe a new category should be created for "Further Development" rather than deleting it... request more information and development to make the article meet standards for verification by making it easier for researchers to find these pages.

I have seen many articles over the years which are based on the translations of the Bible where words such as Hell are mistranslations for Grave meaning we're going to die with nothing more said. However, by mistranslating it as Hell over and over, the language becomes confused and our understanding of the Hell where Satan and the demons are bound may not be accurate. It would seem to me that God would not be so dark of nature to punish people with eternal damnation for simply not believing or being misled, would it not be merciful to just allow such spirits to cease their existence and death be the end of them? But, when you have mistranslations, you get these kind of issues.

In this case, there were actually multiple names given for God in the original writings and some of them still survive to this day. Look at the controversy over the word Jehovah as just one example.

We also know that peoples in ancient times typically did adopt the name of a native god and that what we consider to be a plurality of gods often began as a peoples with just one god who became absorbed into another peoples and to prevent clashes of culture during this process, we adopted gods into our own beliefs that were foreign.

In the same way, is Christianity really Monotheistic when Jesus is often equated with God but as separate beings... that's not Monotheism. Then you have the angelic host who serve the role of demigods and lesser gods while saints took the place of semi divine heroes. This too is part of the controversy as if there is only one God then there would be no others we should claim as godly or divine. Remember, most of the gods dwelled among spirits and lesser gods who were, by comparison, nothing more than the same as we consider angels to be servants and helpers of the more powerful gods or the supreme god as almost all Polytheistic faiths had one god who was all powerful and most had some form of supreme god of evil or darkness.

The word Shaddai does seem to have been used for God at certain points in the Bibles original texts that became translated and changed so I would have to say leave this but maybe change it's designation to appeal to more scholars and bring in some people who enjoy a good theological, scholarly debate to improve the article by making it easier to find.

Remember, suicide was not originally banned in the Biblical teachings as a sin. It became thus because so many learning the faith thought Heaven was such a great place that they couldn't wait to get there and suicide was not what you wanted if your faith was to survive and grow. They actually edited teachings in the Bible to say it was a sin and that means the Bible was altered by the hand of man to mean something other than what God originally intended... which leaves many questions about what else was edited, revised and mistranslated / falsely translated to where Shaddai could actually be a victim of such practices because people wanted only one name for God with no confusion with other Gods. The name Yahweh seems to predate Judaism much as Allah we know was the name of a chief deity belonging to a Polytheistic faith before Muhammed adopted him as the identity of the one true God in Islam.

Deleting it based on opinions and conjecture does a disservice to the process of learning. We could maybe better define what the word means in a less controversial manner and then add as part of the article the associations with it being another name for God where opinions and conjecture are better placed whether affirming or confronting it. Armorbeast (talk) 23:29, 13 September 2016 (UTC)