Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Sports Club/LA

Off-topic discussion

 * I disagree with you, but can we agree to keep the perennial tagging arguments out of this? It really doesn't have anything to do with the AfD, which should be based on the article's notability assertions. If you have problems with certain users, then by all means contact them on their talk page, or take serious issues to WP:ANI. You seem to be here in this AfD primarily to denigrate the nominator. Basically, stop acting like someone stepped on your toes, and defend your article in a mature way. Tan   &#124;   39  20:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Might I point to WP:CIVIL? A notability AfD is based on notability, not on notability assertions in the article.  A spam AfD is based on whether the article is so thoroughly wrong in tone or contains so little information of value that it is better to delete than to salvage.   It's not an AN/I issue, and we did discuss the issue on talk pages before the nominator dragged this here.  The appropriate place to deal with misguided application of process is sometimes in the place where the process is occurring, not by invoking yet more process.  People on new article patrol are doing a wonderful, important, mostly thankless job around here that is much appreciated.  Some very high figure like 90-95% of all new articles are non-notable, and many of the rest have other fatal flaws.  The filtering process is an important safeguard of the encyclopedia.  That's a given.  But sometimes they get over-eager, perhaps they're running on autopilot and not taking the time to carefully distinguish the legit articles from the sea of spam.  The point is, if people point out bad nominations where they happen, then with any luck the nominator will think harder when making them.  Feel free to disagree but you don't have to insult me to do it.  Wikidemon (talk) 00:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You think my post was uncivil? You really need to read WP:CIVIL a couple more times, then. Tan   &#124;   39  00:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No I don't. Now cut it out.Wikidemon (talk) 01:02, 24 October 2008 (UTC)