Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Star Pirates

Elaboration on game notability (Captain Waffles)

The biggest claim I have seen so far refers to the notability of Star Pirates as a game. I would like some references regarding this topic, I have seen absolutely no supporting evidence for any of the topics listed on this page.

Supporting evidence for SP notability


 * 1) Star Pirates had 50,000 registered accounts on 2010-06-24. Since then that number has risen to more than 62,000, and the active player base includes members from many parts of the world, including Australia, England, Canada, the US, New Zealand, Germany, and many others.
 * 2) Star Pirates maintains an extremely devoted active player base that is constantly expanding, and there are a significant amount of players that have been playing since very close to the time the game started. I myself (Captain Waffles) have been playing more than three years.
 * 3) Games similar to Star Pirates (Text based mmo's) traditionally have much smaller player bases, and cannot be compared to full graphic mmo's like World of Warcraft or City of Heroes.
 * 4) The entry now includes several reference and external links to articles, interviews, and mentions in web comics.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.101.33.49 (talk) 22:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Elaboration on notability by Shinobi

I've been reading up on what notability is on the Wikipedia webpage. Here's an excerpt from their page:


 * "Notable" is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance," and even web content that editors personally believe are "important" or "famous" are only accepted as notable if they can be shown to have attracted notice. No web content is exempt from this requirement, no matter what kind of content it is. If the individual web content has received no or very little notice from independent sources, then it is not notable simply because other web content of its type are commonly notable or merely because it exists (see "If it's not notable", below).

There are multiple links in the References and the External Links page regarding independent sources. Many webcomics have discussed Star Pirates on their webpages and their blogs.

This is part of the Criteria for Notability.


 * The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. This criterion includes reliable published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations except for the following:

Media re-prints of press releases and advertising for the content or site. Trivial coverage, such as       newspaper articles that simply report the Internet address, newspaper articles that simply report the times at which such content is updated or made available, a brief summary of the nature of the content or the publication of Internet addresses and site, and content descriptions in Internet directories or online stores.

It does meet that criteria. It is verifiable on various sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shinobi1991 (talk • contribs) 05:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Not sure this is where you want this, on second thought, most of what is on the actual page from the first Question on down probably belongs here rather than where it is. In any event, beyond the mmohut reference (Which Captain Waffles claims is obsolete anyway) and the single article from the Hamilton newspaper, what "non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site iself" has Star Pirates been the subject of? (Webcomics that maintain a business relationship with SHG don't count as independent IMO) Quasi Reality Event (talk) 06:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Let's see, there is an interview from thespec.com (a local newspaper), EO gamer, Apollo Fireweaver, Comp Talks (Yes, a little outdated, but still a review), TGT Media, Best Browser Games of the Year website, and the Daily News from McMaster University. Are all of those independent of SHG enough to count?Shinobi1991 (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2011 (UTC)