Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Table topic

Sources claimed by ThaddeusB
Just because I'm ornery, I'm collecting ThaddeusB's list of sources from the AfD and commenting on them.
 * this is a unique and notable concept, mentioned in over 800 news stories - and that is limiting it to stories that specifically mention Toastmasters to avoid most false positives.
 * Shows that the term frequently appears in stories about the Toasmasters. 832 uses from 1948 to 2009. 40 mentions in 2009. It appears in stories covering Toastmasters. So?


 * It is also covered in 80+ books.
 * Again, search includes "Toastmasters". They use the term. So?


 * In depth coverage is found here,
 * "Kiplinger's Personal Finance", 1970. Both pages where it's mentioned talk about Toastmasters.


 * here completely unrelated to Toastmasters,
 * "The American Dietetic Association Guide to Healthy Eating for Kids" - a page heading suggesting that people talk together at dinner. "In-depth coverage"???


 * in this book unrelated to Toastmasters which doesn't have a free preview,
 * "The complete games trainers play". Sure, they do things around tables.


 * here,
 * "55th meeting of Toastmasters held".


 * here,
 * "Let’s Talk: The art of public speaking" - an article talking about someone who trained in the Toastmasters


 * here,
 * Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - "Toast of the Podium" - an article about the Toastmasters training program


 * here, and many, many other places.
 * The Bryan Times - "Table Topics are part of Williams County Toastmasters program"

I'd say that this list conclusively establishes two things:
 * The Toastmasters use the term heavily
 * There is no other in-depth coverage of the topic

My conclusion: It isn't a separate topic. It's a dictionary term, and something worthy of discussing in Toastmasters International. --Alvestrand (talk) 06:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)