Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/The Greater Phoenix Boffing Group


 * Delete. Not encyclopedic, group was just formed a couple of weeks ago. Dragomiloff 19:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * i have no arguement for this president. However, via the "just formed" argument, one can state that the NFL belongs in the Wiki and the IWFL does not because it is still extremely young in the eyes of the NFL.  Duration or preceding date of origin for a group can not be seen as a valid argument for each subject of discussion is prone to valid points on other levels - such as the IWFL becoming the first all women's football league.


 * Delete Not notable - PoliticalJunkie 19:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * not a valid argument via this president: WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS


 * No-Delete Comment by the creater this entry - Yes, the group was formed only a couple of weeks ago. However we now have over 26 members, with an expected minimum of 10 playing at one time (only 3-week repeat members are displayed on official website numbers).  The group is composed of newcomers, experienced SCA, SCP, and trained fencing players (mostly rapier and epee).  We may be new but we are well organized and will be around for quite a while. At the current growth rate we are expecting over 100 members in less than six months.  I use the following Wikipedia articles for dispute as "Non-Encyclopedic":
 * Amtgard
 * Belegarth
 * Dagorhir
 * Darkon
 * Kingdom of DragonWynde
 * NERO International
 * The SCP


 * Comment WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a valid retort. If your new group has not received significant notice from reliable third parties (ie. not blogs or personal websites), it's not notable for WP. One group I belong to has 3,000 members - but it's still not notable because it hasn't received third-party notice from reliable parties. -- Charlene  21:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * the president sited is a valid argument, however, the repeated statement that is is not notable is a weak statement due to the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS


 * I would like to see the [Google Test] reviewed for this group when considering the Wikipedia entry - although I recognize it may be viewed in a subjective and non-definite manner as stated in said precedent.  For consideration points of the Google test I site the following finds:
 * The Greater Phoenix Boffing Group - 7 main links out of the first 10 results directly relate to the organization (and minor links do exist).
 * Phoenix Boffing - All links on the first 10 results directly relate to the organization (and minor links do exist).
 * Boffing Group - 2 main returns in the first 10 results directly relate to the organization (and minor links do exist.
 * Official boffing - one link in the top ten directly relates to the organization.
 * other first page appearances:
 * Glendale Sword
 * Glendale Boffing
 * Glendale LARP
 * Sword Sport Glendale

VincentBZ 23:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)