Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Transform diet

Brett salisbury is an all-american quarterback. Work is published as has ISBN numbers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 14:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Unless 'all-American' has some technical meaning which is verifiably applicable here, I'm not sure what the relevance is. The page bores on about what colleges he went to look at before choosing one, who his girlfriend used to be, and what his communting time is. I just don't see a claim of notability - but then I know very little about US football. Certainly, having written this non-notable unpublished book is no claim to fame. AlexTiefling (talk) 14:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

In Addition to All-American quarterback, He played professional football in Europe. He was a "male super model" as quoted by senior editor Jed Medina of model max. This qualifies for top male model status, in addition to numerous other accomplishments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 14:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Please sign, indent and generally manage your comments better. When you say he 'played professional football in Europe', can you tell me what clubs he played for, for how long, and cite sources? Similarly, for the claim about modelling to be worth a look, it would need to be a published opinion, not just the private opinion of this editor guy (that I've never heard of). Cite your sources. And what does 'All-American' mean in this context?AlexTiefling (talk) 14:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Please look up what it means to be an All-American in collegiate sports. It's very noteworthy and is considered an elite title. He was also a Harlon Hill Finalist which in and of itself qualify him. I suggest you remove nomination of Brett Salisbury as there are people with wiki articles that have only earned this title.

Brett Salisbury Sources: 1. Harlon Hill Finalist: http://www.harlonhill.com/Archives/candidates_by_team.htm 2. College and Pro Athlete: http://www.palomar.edu/athletics/football/history/ 3. Top Male Model: Lila Snellman confirms Brett Salisbury, Finlands Sexiest male and male super model: http://www.paparazzi.fi/ 4. That should be enough —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheWizard49 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment You're still not laying out or signing your comments properly. I looked up All-American, and having read the article, I'm still not sure why I should care. There's more than one 'All-American' team, and I've no way of telling how notable the one(s) he was selected for are. The article is filled with peacock terms, unsourced personal quotes, and general puffery. So he played football at university? So what? Again, what clubs did he play for in Europe? AlexTiefling (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Brett Salisbury is subject to its own AfD Articles for deletion/Brett Salisbury. Poltair (talk) 14:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

TheWizard49 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The harlon Hill finalist is bigger than any all-american list. I showed you that. It's bigger than any all-american list. This list alone qualifies him as the ELITE. Again, the sourced article here will tell you where and how long he played pro football. Read the Sources above or google him. It's endless how many articles he has.!! As for male super model. Go to this site again, to confirm male super model status and the country of finlands sexiest male in 1996, http://www.paparazzi.fi/
 * Comment I don't suppose you'd like to (a) indent, sign and date your responses correctly or (b) answer my questions about football in Europe? I've just checked the Harlon Hill Trophy article, and he didn't actually win it, did he? and in which years was he an All-American team member, on whose nomination, and can you prove it? AlexTiefling (talk) 15:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Further comment: User:TheWizard49 is a single-purpose account, whose only edits are to this nomination and the article it relates to. AlexTiefling (talk) 15:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I apologize as I'm trying to get back to you ASAP for not commenting with the proper indents. 1990 All-American, 1993 All-American for two different teams. Wayne State College and Palomar College. YOu can verifiy both. He was the JC-Gridwire All-American. Which is the best. He was all the AP and USA Today All-American Quarterback at Wayne State. Please contact the Athletic Director at Wayne for all his accompishments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheWizard49 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Now I may just be an ignorant Brit, but I thought the point of 'All-American' teams was that they, er, represented all of (the United States of) America. If they're college-specific, they don't seem very notable. And I'm still not convinced of the notability of the European clubs you've mentioned. If this guy is so 'elite', as you keep insisting, why is he not now an NFL player? Why is he hawking a self-published diet book? AlexTiefling (talk) 15:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

He is now 40 and is a collegiate Quarterback Legend whether you from Britian can comprehend that or not is your problem not the Wikipedia community. He was an All-American in the United States for the JC Gridwire and Associated press at Division II. He played pro football in the EFAF. YOu get paid to play anything after college, it makes you a professional. Look up what a pro is. Semi Pro players CANNOT be paid. Pro are. End of Story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 15:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please remember to keep it friendly. It's an encyclopedia, not worth losing your temper over.  :) Movingboxes (talk) 20:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)