Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Warcraft character articles

I just missed the closing, but the Captain Placeholder article on WoWWiki is actually a copy of the Wikipedia article. The lyrics were added to the wikipedia article on 2005-11-23 and on the wowiki article on 2006-05-21. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

'Useless Trainwreck'
I'd just like to know if any other AfDs have ended up as 'USELESS TRAINWRECKS FROM WHICH NO DISCUSSION CAN EMERGE,' or something similar. I find it an interesting designation, no levity intended. -Toptomcat 16:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Note to interested admins
Technically, withdrawing this nomination was an exercise in WP:IAR as I have neither the authority, nor the backing of WP:SK to retract nominations after several people have voted delete. However, it is clear to me that the emerging consensus was that this was a bad faith nomination on my part. It is also clear to me that the technical device of adding to the "challenge" section would eventually cover all 49 articles, defeating the entire point of a group nomination. I doubt any admin will want to put process above everything and reopen this AfD, but if they do, I request that all my comments be struck out. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 11:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your invalid close; as you have indiated you already know, a nominator has no special rights to close an AfD once even a single other person has supported deletion, nevermind the fairly large majority supporting deletion here. --Aquillion 01:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think your reversion puts process over common sense, but whatever. Remember to add the afd banners back. I am not going to help you out. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 02:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've restored all of the AfD tags. — TKD::Talk 03:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * By the way, you should note that there wasn't anything close to a fairly large majority supporting deletion. The majority as of the moment I attempted to retract the nomination and as of this comment support keep or relist. Also AfD is not a vote and majorities have no meaning. Some of the delete voters obviously did not bother reading the nomination as their comments show a lack of awareness of key points raised therein, viz. the existence of List of Warcraft characters. See also the list of backlinks to this AfD, and you will observe that there has been a campaign to solicit participations from individual editors sympathetic to these articles. Such campaigns rarely lead to good AfDs. I am still very displeased that you reopened this, as it will continue its agonizing march towards a no-consensus, i.e., a collossal waste of everyone's time. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 03:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Individual challenges moved from article
As it appears that the community is not in favour of allowing me to withdraw the nomination as a whole, it is therefore also impossible for me to withdraw the nomination for individual articles. Therefore, the intent of this section is manifestly invalid. It has been moved here from the main article.


 * This whole nomination is bad faith, and it should be strikken. I have asked the admin why he re-opened it. I will also look into getting it deleted all together. Havok (T/C/c) 14:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * If you continue to hold that there was bad faith here, you should bring it up before RfC or the ArbCom. Also note that the person who reverted my close isn't a sysop. If you want to get this AfD unlisted, I think it is imperative that you look into getting me banned in some fashion, as it is obvious then that I have a motive to damage Wikipedia. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 23:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

All comments below this line should be for challenges to the nomination as apply to specific articles.

Comment to nominator Have you even read the articles you have nominated? Because if you did, you would understand from what is written about these characters, who is major and who is minor etc. Havok (T/C/c) 10:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Archimonde 
 * Archimonde is a driving villain of the series. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Arthas Menethil  Becomes the looming 'ultimate evil' of the Warcraft Universe after essentially merging with Ner'Zhul. --LordFrassle 10:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Main character of the Human and Scourge campaigns in Warcraft III. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Azshara 

The queen of the high born elves before she was consumed by the power of the Well of Eternity, she's the ruler of the Naga, and is a major character because she almost destroyed the world. Havok (T/C/c) 10:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Balnazzar 

 Challange for Cairne Bloodhoof 

Ruler of the Tauren race. Havok (T/C/c) 10:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Grom Hellscream  Major Chieftan of the Orc Clans and allowed them to become servants of the Burning Legion - later was responsible for the removal of this curse and bloodlust from the orc race. --LordFrassle 10:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Grom is a mjor character. The article details his appearances pretty well. Ace of Sevens 08:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Gul'dan 

The first Orc to make contact with Azeroth, also the first or to be "infected" by demons and becoming in essence the first Warlock in Azeroth and of all the Orcs. Havok (T/C/c) 10:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Illidan Stormrage 
 * Hmm, so he's the protagonist responsible for the entire Warcraft III expansion? Deleting this would be quite silly. &mdash;   Da rk Sh ik ar i   talk /contribs  10:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Jaina Proudmoore  Former lover of Arthas, the most powerfull mage in Azeroth. She's the one behind the alliance between the Orcs, Night elves and Humans. Havok (T/C/c) 10:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Kel'Thuzad  Ruler of the Scourge, major character in the sense that he is the evil behind the plague. Havok (T/C/c) 10:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Malfurion Stormrage  Brother of Illidan, first druid in Azeroth. Major MAJOR character. Havok (T/C/c) 10:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * So MAJOR he needs his own dedicated wiki!--Paraphelion 10:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Mannoroth 

Servant of Archimonde, also a major character in the lore about Sargeras. Havok (T/C/c) 10:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

His blood corrupted the orc race, enslaving them in a bloodlust and making them attack Azeroth. --LordFrassle 10:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Medivh 

Major character who opened the dark portal and started the invasion of Sargeras' demons into Azeroth. Havok (T/C/c) 10:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Also later warned the races to flee to Kalimdor before the Burning Legion invaded and orchastrated the ultimate downfall of Archimonde by uniting the Orcs, Humans and Nightelves. --LordFrassle 10:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Orgrim Doomhammer 

Orc Warchief responsible for the destruction of Azeroth (the nation) and pivotal in the initial invasion. --LordFrassle 10:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Prince Kael'thas 
 * De Facto ruler of the Blood Elf faction under Illidan. Hero of the Blood Elf campaign of Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. --Ifrit 12:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Sargeras 
 * This is the character who got the whole series started by turning evil. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Sylvanas Windrunner 
 * Major figure in World of Warcraft, Hero of the undead campaigns in WC3. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Tichondrius 

 Challenge for Tyrande Whisperwind 

Love interest of major character Malfurion Stormrage. Havok (T/C/c) 10:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Correction. MAJOR love interest of MAJOR character Malfurion Stormrage.--Paraphelion 10:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Also the current leader of the Night Elf Race --LordFrassle 10:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Cairne Bloodhoof 


 * Tauren chief, he is a major figure in Warcraft III and World of Warcraft. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 Challenge for Uther the Lightbringer 

Uther brings the light. Nuff said.--Paraphelion 10:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

oldafdfull
I've added the deletion notice to all of the talk pages. If I've missed one, please add it!Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 08:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)