Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Women in Refrigerators

I'm not sure if I understand the phrase 'non-notable website'. The purpose of the article is to clarify the term 'Women in Refrigerators'(WiR), and to correct an earlier entry here dubbed 'Girlfriend-in-Refrigerator Syndrome' that was not (to my knowledge) nominated for deletion. There were five comicbook articles (not counting the original) that referenced the eroneous term 'Girlfriend in Refrigerator Syndrome'. Hopefully these articles and their references have also not been nominated for deletion. The term 'Girlfriend-in-Refrigerator Syndrome' currently generates 163 hits on google with the spelling from the original (eroneously titled) article.

Girlfriend-in-Refrigerator Syndrome http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Girlfriend-in-Refrigerator+Syndrome&btnG=Search

Removing the hyphens, and including the words 'comic books' in the search generates 315,000 hits on google. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Girlfriend+in+Refrigerator+Syndrome+comic+book&btnG=Search

The term 'Girlfriend in Refrigerator Syndrome' actually references 'Women in Refrigerators', a term coined in 1999 by comic book writer Gail Simone.

The term 'Women in Refrigerators + Comic Books' generates 1.6 million hits on google. http://www.google.com/search?hs=KbI&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Women+in+Refrigerators+comic+books&btnG=Search

While it's hard to say how many of these are unrelated to the term, or the original site, some of the deeper search items clearly are. The google cache shows a revelant hit on page 67 of the search http://www.google.com/search?q=Women+in+Refrigerators+comic+books&hl=en&hs=7aI&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=630&sa=N

http://blogthispal.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_blogthispal_archive.html

There are still articles that reference the term that persist on the Internet. While it isn't a mainstream term, it is well-known in comic fandom, and the term is often referenced by fans. The term, and the website, had and continues to have an impact on the comicbook subculture. As recently as 2003, with the mainstream superhero comic 'Identity Crisis' the term began to float around again in fan circles. General discussions of sexism within the comicbook industry (both in product and managerial attitude) reference the term 'Women in Refrigerators' and the site.

The site that houses 'Women in Refrigerators' is not a commercial site. There are no ads there.

http://www.comicboards.com/dangerous/view.php?trd=051108133241 http://www.poormojo.org/pmjadaily/archives/001137.html http://omegagateway.com/boards/genmessage.php?topic=24852 http://www.in4mador.com/links/476 http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Comics_and_Animation/Cultures_and_Groups/Women/ http://www.portalofevil.com/single.php?poeurlid=11848 http://www.barbelith.com/topic.php?id=13958 http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?t=22531 http://www.captaincomics.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=6633 http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/misogyny_and_disillusionment/ http://www.insequence.org/archives/000100.html http://www.sequentialtart.com/community/Forum1/HTML/000612.shtml http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?a=590 (2005)

The WiR content often sparked discussion. In 2000, newspapers ran articles that referenced the site. Some of those articles are still easily found on the Internet. The articles about WiR always generated discussion on the topic of sexism in pop culture (with healthy debate by those who believe it exists and those who believe it doesn't). There were many mainstream references to the site in the mass media. The references even trickled down to small, out of the way corners of the world.

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2000-05-18/stuff.html http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2000-05-25/letters.html http://www.failuremag.com/arch_arts_tragic_comics.html

Some universities also list the content of 'WiR' as related to women in pop culture.

http://www.wsu.edu/~amerstu/pop/comix.html http://www.rpi.edu/~bulloj/search/WOMEN.html

This is just a small sample of net related content. I believe strongly the term and the entry are relevant. I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of updating the entry for accuracy unless I strongly believed that it was important. Granted, comicbook fandom is a subculture, and women are generally considered a minority within that subculture, but given that considerations of sexism are always relevant--and that the term is often still referenced and used within the comicbook subculture--this issue deserves to remain. At the least, the article can correct and educate other comic book fans and scholars on an interesting phenomenon of 1999 pop culture--one that had an effect (even if that effect isn't clearly measurable by casual students of the media) and is still referenced to this day.

Thanks for your time! I hope my comments weren't too long!

Fcr 09:00, 12 January 2006 (UTC)