Wikipedia talk:Articles for improvement/Archive 24

Inactive?

 * Is this project inactive? Eddie891 Talk Work 00:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Many of the project's functions have been automated. For example, weekly selections are chosen randomly from the project's Articles for improvement page and posted on the project's Schedule page by MusikBot. North America1000 18:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * User:MusikAnimal It seems to me that very few care about the nominations. Which is too bad. Perhaps a bot could notify editors involved in the project of new noninations.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:42, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And as we have an member list it would be quite easy I assume to make a bot notify members when a new article is nominated. And as we don’t get too many noms it would not be a spamming situation.BabbaQ (talk) 12:46, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that would be a good idea. I have the nominations page on my watchlist, but I don't always notice new edits among everything else. Clover moss  (talk) 21:19, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I hope that this can be accomplished via a bot soon. I think it would definitely benefit the project. I have the same problem, I follow the nom page but miss it quite often amongst other articles and editing work etc.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:51, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe new talk page threads could be notifications as well? There aren't new posts here that often. I must admit that I only saw this just now because I was browsing after making another TAFI nomination. Any input would be appreciated. Another thing that might be helpful is an extended no response time for nominations before automatically being deemed unsuccessful due to inactivity. Clover moss  (talk) 23:01, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Is there some way to get this to happen sooner than later. I wonder who to contact.BabbaQ (talk) 23:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The only person I know that's super good with scripts would be, but I'm not sure if they'd be able to help with this. Clover moss  (talk) 04:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid with work being busy I'm having trouble keeping up with the bot tasks I already have running. 8/ -- Beland (talk) 15:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Rattyhats (talk) 17:54, 13 April 2020 (UTC) Is this project active?
 * Not sure. I came here to add a few noms but I'm not an active participant. So it at least still has appeal, and the article of the week still gets some extra attention, even if it's just being updated by a bot. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Comment. If I'm not mistaken, this week's #28 TAFI (Russian Academy of Natural Sciences) has already appeared before on week #17. I believe nobody noticed this because of a possible archiving issue? As you can see in the schedule archives, week #17 is missing. I'm left wondering whether this should be left as is (letting editors give this TAFI a second go) or a new TAFI should take its place? Cordially,  History DMZ  ( talk )+( ping )  01:00, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

The TAFI article for Week 48 of 2020
The selection for week 48 (starting 23 November 2020) is Industry.

Discussion (week 48)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The TAFI article for Week 49 of 2020
The selection for week 49 (starting 30 November 2020) is Latin music (genre).

Discussion (week 49)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The TAFI article for Week 50 of 2020
The selection for week 50 (starting 07 December 2020) is Bengali cuisine.

Discussion (week 50)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

Requested move 23 October 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

– The article for improvement no longer changes every day, so it's past time we name the WikiProject to reflect its current operation. The natural title is currently occupied by the list page, so I propose we move that page to a subpage, which is the way we structure every other page besides the main page in this project anyways. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 00:44, 23 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisted.  P.I. Ellsworth    ed.  put'r there 07:55, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement → Articles for improvement
 * Wikipedia:Articles for improvement → Articles for improvement/Articles


 * Comment. First, apologies, I see what happened now. There wasn't any further editing so the bot archived your request. Hopefully, the code above this comment will keep that from happening again. One thing though... the second new title above is a page with significant content and cannot be used as a new title unless it is also proposed to be renamed. So I have added to this proposal and placed a question mark in the ? parameter. If you have a new title in mind, let me know and I'll replace the question mark with that.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 06:56, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oops, silly me for not noticing that title is taken. I've switched it to /Articles instead. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 08:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 *  Support Yes the page title is no longer suitable.--Ankit (Talk with me) 19:29, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 *  Support - See no reason not to.BabbaQ (talk) 20:48, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The AFI article for Week 51 of 2020
The selection for week 51 (starting 14 December 2020) is Christmas ham.

Discussion (week 51)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

Article nominations page
I noticed that there is a table of contents at the bottom of the article nominations section of the project. Why is that so? Is the table of contents required for this page? If such then perhaps it should be on the top.--Ankit (Talk with me) 11:25, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , yeah, it was at both the top and the bottom; I removed it at the bottom. The list of categories also basically functions as yet another TOC, which is fairly redundant, so I may remove it, too. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Interest in noms
I sadly see that less and less editors involved in this project are interested in reviewing and !voting on nominated articles. My suggestion would be that every new nom is sent to each project members talk page via a bot. We have relatively few noms. So getting a notice of a new nomination would benefit the project. Other suggestions or ideas are welcome.BabbaQ (talk) 20:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong Support- I definitely see the merit in your proposal, this project currently has 176 active members, we could definitely use their help. And I think that it should be the active members that be pinged.--Ankit (Talk with me) 21:47, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Personally, the reason I don't follow the nominations page on my watchlist is that I don't want to be spammed by MusikBot constantly rotating all the entries. It'd be easier on my watchlist if we turned off the rotating, but even then, I'd prefer to be notified once for a new candidate rather than for every !vote. Still, I wouldn't personally sign up for talk page messages, since there'd be too many.
 * Broadly, I very much agree that this project could use some revival. We've taken care of the TAFI->AFI cleanup, which will help with branding, but I think we need something more. Sending out a mass-message to participants about a relaunch might give us a participation boost, but in order for it to be sustained, I think people need to feel that the project has a community/collaborative presence. To that end, I'd suggest having a bot automatically create a talk page section for each AFI as a place for us to list out the article's problems and discuss how to fix them. The other thing that I think is missing is a way to measure (and derive satisfaction from) the project's impact, the same way e.g. GAN can say "we promoted 47 pages this month!" To address that, I think it might be better to stop having the AFI change automatically every week, and instead make it something where we all work on a page for however long we feel is needed to fix it up, and then declare it improved and move to the next. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Wait, we already have this. See AFI weekly selection notice, which is active. &#123;{u&#124;  Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 52 of 2020
The selection for week 52 (starting 21 December 2020) is Edible.

Discussion (week 52)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 53 of 2020
The selection for week 53 (starting 28 December 2020) is Fishing industry.

Discussion (week 53)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

MusikBot and nominations
It looks like the bot has stopped rotating nominations and archiving/moving ones once they've been approved or rejected. I assume this is probably another bit of fallout from the move; would you be able to look into it? The lack of rotating I actually appreciate since it makes the page impossible to watchlist, but the archiving/moving it would be nice to have back. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 00:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Whoops, sorry about that. I forgot the on-wiki config also needed to be updated. We can turn off the rotation feature via the config, too, if we want. However I realize now it's not marking the edits as bot edits, which can be filtered out of your watchlist. So that is also an option. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:44, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 1 of 2021
The selection for week 1 (starting 04 January 2021) is Pork chop.

Discussion (week 1)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 2 of 2021
The selection for week 2 (starting 11 January 2021) is Lumbersexual.

Discussion (week 2)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 3 of 2021
The selection for week 3 (starting 18 January 2021) is Mountain pass.

Discussion (week 3)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 4 of 2021
The selection for week 4 (starting 25 January 2021) is Viral phenomenon.

Discussion (week 4)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 5 of 2021
The selection for week 5 (starting 01 February 2021) is Lumbersexual.

Discussion (week 5)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 6 of 2021
The selection for week 6 (starting 08 February 2021) is Media market.

Discussion (week 6)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 7 of 2021
The selection for week 7 (starting 15 February 2021) is Blibber-Blubber.

Discussion (week 7)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 8 of 2021
The selection for week 8 (starting 22 February 2021) is  Liquor.

Discussion (week 8)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 9 of 2021
The selection for week 9 (starting 01 March 2021) is Emergency management.

Discussion (week 9)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 10 of 2021
The selection for week 10 (starting 08 March 2021) is Chicken nugget.

Discussion (week 10)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 11 of 2021
The selection for week 11 (starting 15 March 2021) is Hobby.

Discussion (week 11)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 12 of 2021
The selection for week 12 (starting 22 March 2021) is Name.

Discussion (week 12)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 13 of 2021
The selection for week 13 (starting 29 March 2021) is Mixed climbing.

Discussion (week 13)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 14 of 2021
The selection for week 14 (starting 05 April 2021) is Recreation room.

Discussion (week 14)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 15 of 2021
The selection for week 15 (starting 12 April 2021) is Thai comics.

Discussion (week 15)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

Redirect
Why is this week's article a redirect? —valereee (talk) 16:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 16 of 2021
The selection for week 16 (starting 19 April 2021) is Do-rag.

Discussion (week 16)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 17 of 2021
The selection for week 17 (starting 26 April 2021) is Huizhou.

Discussion (week 17)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

New article improvement newsletter
Dropping a line on the talk pages of relevant WikiProjects that a new article improvement newsletter has opened for sign-ups and is sending out its first issue in the next couple of days. Discontent Content focuses on both the improvement of substandard articles and the maintenance of quality ones, and can be subscribed to at Discontent Content/mailing list. Vaticidalprophet 05:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 18 of 2021
The selection for week 18 (starting 03 May 2021) is Fashion accessory.

Discussion (week 18)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

Setting parameters for nomination page
You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:MusikBot/TAFIDaily/config. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 20:30, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 19 of 2021
The selection for week 19 (starting 10 May 2021) is Tattoo.

Discussion (week 19)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 20 of 2021
The selection for week 20 (starting 17 May 2021) is Desktop computer.

Discussion (week 20)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 21 of 2021
The selection for week 21 (starting 24 May 2021) is Pork chop.

Discussion (week 21)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 22 of 2021
The selection for week 22 (starting 31 May 2021) is Trench.

Discussion (week 22)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 23 of 2021
The selection for week 23 (starting 07 June 2021) is Learned society.

Discussion (week 23)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 25 of 2021
The selection for week 25 (starting 21 June 2021) is Alida Morberg.

Discussion (week 25)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

Project participation
While trying to fix up some of our archives, I just made the dispiriting discovery that Pig Latin, which was just added to the AFI list (for plenty good reason) has appeared on AFI before...twice...including last year. Our participation level is definitely not yet where I'd like it to be. Ideally, any article that appears as the weekly selection should receive a flood of activity that results in some noticeably dramatic changes. Hopefully someday we'll get to that point. In the meantime, it seems we're doing fine on the having-enough-nominations front, but if we ever start running low, all we need to do is dip into our archives and resurface some of our past selections. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 01:20, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Weekly selection watchlist notifications?
Looking through the code, it seems there isn't any way to be notified on your watchlist when there's a new selection, just the talk page method. Some people (myself included) may not want all the talk page notifications, so should we set this up somehow? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 21:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 26 of 2021
The selection for week 26 (starting 28 June 2021) is Christmas ham.

Discussion (week 26)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 24 of 2021
The selection for week 24 (starting 14 June 2021) is Savoriness.

Discussion (week 24)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''


 * This "article" is a redirect. If we try to improve a redirect, it will likely stop being a redirect and we will have two articles on the same topic. That is not good. --littleb2009 (she/her) (talk • contribs) 18:58, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 27 of 2021
The selection for week 27 (starting 05 July 2021) is Organized religion.

Discussion (week 27)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 28 of 2021
The selection for week 28 (starting 12 July 2021) is International Army Games.

Discussion (week 28)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 29 of 2021
The selection for week 29 (starting 19 July 2021) is International law.

Discussion (week 29)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

Strike Lumbersexual
Lumbersexual is listed on the Articles for improvement page, but is a redirect to Lumberjack, following a deletion discussion some years ago. It would seem prudent to strike it from the list, unless there are any objections? RoanokeVirginia (talk) 17:34, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

The AFI article for Week 30 of 2021
The selection for week 30 (starting 26 July 2021) is Episode.

Discussion (week 30)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 31 of 2021
The selection for week 31 (starting 02 August 2021) is Organ (anatomy).

Discussion (week 31)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 32 of 2021
The selection for week 32 (starting 09 August 2021) is Act (drama).

Discussion (week 32)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 33 of 2021
The selection for week 33 (starting 16 August 2021) is Crème brûlée.

Discussion (week 33)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 34 of 2021
The selection for week 34 (starting 23 August 2021) is Grocery store.

Discussion (week 34)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 35 of 2021
The selection for week 35 (starting 30 August 2021) is Mona Sahlin.

Discussion (week 35)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 36 of 2021
The selection for week 36 (starting 06 September 2021) is Past.

Discussion (week 36)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 37 of 2021
The selection for week 37 (starting 13 September 2021) is  History of art.

Discussion (week 37)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 38 of 2021
The selection for week 38 (starting 20 September 2021) is Student exchange program.

Discussion (week 38)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 39 of 2021
The selection for week 39 (starting 27 September 2021) is No such thing as a stupid question.

Discussion (week 39)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 40 of 2021
The selection for week 40 (starting 04 October 2021) is Geographer.

Discussion (week 40)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 41 of 2021
The selection for week 41 (starting 11 October 2021) is Fish sauce.

Discussion (week 41)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 42 of 2021
The selection for week 42 (starting 18 October 2021) is Personality.

Discussion (week 42)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 43 of 2021
The selection for week 43 (starting 25 October 2021) is Postmodernism.

Discussion (week 43)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 44 of 2021
The selection for week 44 (starting 01 November 2021) is Isabel Adrian.

Discussion (week 44)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 45 of 2021
The selection for week 45 (starting 08 November 2021) is Air sports.

Discussion (week 45)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''

The AFI article for Week 46 of 2021
The selection for week 46 (starting 15 November 2021) is Geography of Iceland.

Discussion (week 46)
''Please any comments or concerns about the selection here. If three net members elect to reselect the article, then the article will be reselected and the former one removed from the list of articles.''