Wikipedia talk:Attribution does not require blame

"Blame" term
As mentioned in the Glossary section, Git's command is. Apache Subversion (SVN) uses  also, while Concurrent Versions System (CVS) and Mercurial use.

I am open to another term, but "blame" has widespread adoption. Flatscan (talk) 05:36, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Also Version control, which Cryptic . Flatscan (talk) 05:38, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

RD1 discussions
I searched for and found many discussions about WP:Revision deletion and attribution requirements.


 * WT:Revision deletion/Archive 1 (2009)
 * WT:Revision deletion/Archive 1
 * WP:Copying within Wikipedia promoted to guideline WT:Copying within Wikipedia/Archive 1 (November 2009)
 * WT:Copying within Wikipedia/Archive 1 (2009)
 * Revision deletion enabled for admins WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 76 (May 2010)
 * WT:Revision deletion/Archive 2 (2010)
 * WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive220 (2010)
 * Notified WT:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup/Archive 4
 * WP:Copyright problems/2011 November 11
 * WT:Revision deletion/Archive 4 (2014)
 * Started after WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive826
 * WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive264 (2014)
 * WT:Revision deletion (2017)
 * WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive947 (2017)
 * WP:Copyright problems/2017 April 28
 * Mentioned Talk:Female child molesters
 * WT:Copyrights/Archive 16 (2020)
 * Talk:Pinsk
 * WT:Copyright problems/Archive 21
 * WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive332 (2021)
 * User_talk:Diannaa/Archive 75
 * WT:Revision deletion (2021–, continuing)
 * WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive340 (2022)
 * WMF Legal's response: Special:Diff/1068782406

Flatscan (talk) 05:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I added two more discussions and two key dates: when WP:Copying within Wikipedia was promoted to guideline and when revision deletion was enabled for administrators. WP:CWW is relevant because there had been a lack of documentation for attribution. Flatscan (talk) 05:21, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I added WMF Legal's response and indicated that a recent discussion is continuing. Flatscan (talk) 05:19, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * One discussion was archived. Flatscan (talk) 05:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Edit by Uanfala
Uanfala edited this essay to be more favorable to their interpretation, and I reverted. This page is cited by WT:Revision deletion to provide background, and the related WT:Revision deletion is still open. I am organizing specific objections to the changes. Flatscan (talk) 04:29, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Is there any specifically in my changes that you disagree with? – Uanfala (talk) 11:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Misunderstanding the license requirements has been a recurring problem in the many discussions linked above. This essay's aim is addressing that, and restricting its context is key. Your out-of-scope additions undermine that.
 * "Attribution" is defined in the Glossary section, and your expanded interpretation is a distraction. It has very little support: I don't recall anyone agreeing with it at WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive340 or WT:Revision deletion.
 * Filtering the list of authors is called out by the Terms of Use, but I believe that it is rarely worth the effort in practice. For example, Talk:A Girl Asleep/Attribution (from Category:Pages used to preserve attribution) clearly includes bots. Mentioning it is trivia.
 * The essay's focus is what the license allows us to do, without taking a stance on what we should do. The previous criticisms also apply here.
 * Flatscan (talk) 04:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * But all the additional issues were discussed there and I don't remember anyone objecting to those points when they were made. And it was exactly in those discussions that it came to light that some licences, like CC 4.0, do require "blame". But anyway, I realise that I shouldn't be interfering here: this is your own personal essay and you should be free to have the final say over it. I still believe that any discussion of "attribution" should set things in their wider content, but for that end I'd best take my efforts elsewhere. – Uanfala (talk) 11:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC)