Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working/Archive 5

NAC requests August 2022
Please can an admin add the following: Result: merge Result: delete Result: merge Result: merge Result: rename Result: merge Result: rename Result: merge Result: rename Result: rename Result: merge and disperse to Category:Defunct motor vehicle manufacturers of Austria and Category:Defunct motor vehicle manufacturers of Hungary
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Qwerfjkl talk  06:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Please can an admin add the following: Result: merge Result: rename Qwerfjkl talk  08:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * Done – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Result: merge Qwerfjkl talk  20:15, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * do you want to do this one yourself? Downmerges need to be sorted out manually anyway, as the bot does not copy the required parent categories onto the target page. I'd redirect the old one in this case to make the history more traceable. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, OOjs UI icon check-constructive.svg Done. &#8213;  Qwerfjkl talk  06:19, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Please can an admin add the following: Result: delete Result: split Result: rename Result: delete Result: merge Result: manual rename Qwerfjkl talk  20:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * The split and manual rename need to be addressed manually. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:05, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * OOjs UI icon check-constructive.svg Done split and manual rename. &#8213;  Qwerfjkl talk  15:22, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Please can an admin add the following: Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename
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Result: merge Result: rename Qwerfjkl talk  18:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: delete Result: rename Result: rename Result: merge Result: merge Result: rename Result: delete Qwerfjkl talk  19:14, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename
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 * I'm very grateful for your work at CFD, but in this case a second 👀 was useful! – Fayenatic  L ondon 06:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Result: rename Result: rename Qwerfjkl talk  20:37, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: rename Qwerfjkl talk  20:38, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: merge Result: delete Result: merge Result: rename Result: rename Result: merge Result: merge Result: merge/delete Result: merge Qwerfjkl talk  21:49, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: rename Result: delete Result: delete Qwerfjkl talk  09:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: delete Result: rename Result: merge Result: manual merge (only the article) Result: manual merge Result: rename Result: rename and delete Qwerfjkl talk  21:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: merge Result: merge Result: merge Qwerfjkl talk  18:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: split Result: rename Result: merge Qwerfjkl talk  19:38, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: merge and dabify Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: merge Qwerfjkl talk  13:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: delete Result: rename Result: soft merge/delete Result: soft delete Result: merge Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: rename Result: merge Result: merge Qwerfjkl talk  17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: delete Result: merge Result: merge Result: delete Result: rename Result: merge Result: merge Result: delete Qwerfjkl talk  14:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
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✅ for the August 17 and 18 NACs.  bibliomaniac 1  5  05:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Please can an admin add the following: Result: upmerge Result: merge/delete all Result: soft merge Result: rename Result: delete Qwerfjkl talk  09:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
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 * ✅ —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 18:24, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Result: merge Result: Upmerge Result: delete Qwerfjkl talk  08:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: soft merge
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 * please would you review whether all these merge targets are actually required? In most cases the member pages are already within other sub-cats e.g. of Category:American businesspeople by century. If they are not required then please state this in your close as well as modifying this list. – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:04, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, this might take me a while. It'd be hard to do this on my tablet, and I don't currently have access to my laptop, so it might take be a couple of days to do this, sorry. — Qwerfjkl  talk  09:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, I've checked. Most of the categories need manual merges. — Qwerfjkl  talk  10:56, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll work on these in due course. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:03, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, I was thinking of writing a pywikibot script for handling this and similar cases: where it needs merging, but might already be in a subcat of the merge target. I'll start writing it tomorrow and see how it goes. — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:30, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That sounds useful, thanks. I've done the two deletions already. I would probably have used WP:PetScan on the larger cases. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:33, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * How far down the category do you suggest I check? At 5 levels, I found categories like Category:NeXT. — Qwerfjkl  talk  11:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I was just thinking of going down to the century or the state. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:42, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll try to get this done by the weekend. — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:55, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, I've almost finished, I should be done tomorrow. Can I just confirm, by going down to the century or the state, do you mean just the contents of Category:American businesspeople by century and Category:American businesspeople by state? The "of X descent" categories are smaller, so I can check them recursively, and it only takes a few seconds. — Qwerfjkl  talk  20:22, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's exactly what I had in mind. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, so an edit like Special:Diff/1109379215 is fine? I've finished writing the code, I'd just like to confirm everything before I start. — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:12, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, here's five test edits I made:Shih-Ying Lee (Diff ~1109380458)Noel Lee (executive) (Diff ~1109380430)David K. Lam (Diff ~1109380406)<li>Leo Koguan (Diff ~1109380380)</li><li>David Ji (Diff ~1109380356)</li></ul><span id="Qwerfjkl:1662733312400:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Working" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:21, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, I should have said go lower in the case of "by state"... perhaps visual inspection may be better than automation. E.g. Kwak is in Category:American computer businesspeople, but not a century category; Noel Lee is in Category:Businesspeople from San Francisco. So your diffs are fine for removals such as S-Y Lee, but it's worth double-checking the cases where the top category is being added, as you can often do better manually, e.g. David Ji.  – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:54, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, I've tried recursing 3 levels. Here's five more:<ul><li>Ge Li (Diff ~1109393099)</li><li>Michael Li (Diff ~1109393138)</li><li>Eugenio Lopez III (Diff ~1109393171)</li><li>Paula Williams Madison (Diff ~1109393203)</li><li>Victor Peng (Diff ~1109393229)</li></ul>I can recurse more, for greater accuracy, and I'm currently testing how long it takes. So far, seven levels looks okay (taking just over four minutes to get).<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>If you don't think this should be done automatically, then feel free to tell me and I'll stop.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1662739613020:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Working" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:06, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, regarding your edit on David Ji, I feel that could probably just be done after the merge, by working through Category:American businesspeople, and just doing the stuff that can be done automatically, automatically. I suspect running at 4 or 5 levels would be best - anymore can give unwanted categories, any higher can lead to missing subcats. Your thoughts?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1663003540847:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Working" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for the ping – sorry, I was forgetting this conversation. I'm happy with your proposal, but can you exclude non-diffusing subcats? E.g. Madison needs to be added to a non-EGRS businesspeople category. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, sure, I'll try to get this done soon. I'll probably go with checking four levels down.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1663012524585:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Working" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:55, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, as far as I can tell, the only other non-difufusing subcat is Category:American women in business. Is it okay if I run the script now?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1663087525907:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Working" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * other than Category:African-American businesspeople, you mean? (as in Madison's case) OK, if that's excluded, by all means go ahead. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:08, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, .<span id="Qwerfjkl:1663177850229:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Working" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:50, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Please can an admin add the following: Result: merge Result: delete Result: delete Result: delete Result: delete Qwerfjkl talk  15:02, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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