Wikipedia talk:Contents/Types TOC

Icons
Nuvola:

P_icon:

(these 2 shared between sets):

Propose change of icons from Nuvola style to the P_icon style. P_ style is visually coherent and provides wikipedia a more professional look. Follow this link to see the proposed P_icon option, and leave a comment below. Elekhh (talk) 02:42, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * (I've added embedded examples for them all, at top, for easier glance comparison and discussion.)
 * I strongly agree that we need a more "professional" look, and I consider the Nuvola icons to be "cartoonish". However, I'd suggest that if we're just considering these 2 sets as the available options, then a mix of the two would be best - simply because the images used in some of the P_icons are ambiguous or non-obvious. Specifically, the Nuvola history icon seems clearer than the "man on horse" icon. Ideally, someone could find third/superior options for "art" and "history" and "reference". Those are my thoughts, at least. (And if updating, don't forget to update the other shared template: Portal:Contents/Types layout, at the same time.) -- Quiddity (talk) 20:41, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Agree that not all icons are perfectly suggestive of the topic, however overall P_icons are not less suggestive than the nuvola ones. Also important to note that in most or all cases these icons appear with text. I think the main decision is about the overall style. It is always possible to replace individual icons. Accordingly I suggest following alternative options for the history icon: (a) [[Image:Klepsydra-pt.svg|20px]], (b) [[Image:P Roman empire.png|30px]], (c) [[Image:P parthenon.svg|30px]], (d) [[Image:P rome colosseum 2.png|30px]], (e) P Moai.png. Elekhh (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Option (a) makes sense, as the most culture-neutral. -- Quiddity (talk) 03:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't quite agree with that: symbols of past civilizations relate in similar way to present day cultures. On the other hand history is never culture-neutral. For graphic reasons I would prefer (e). Neverthless, as said before, I think the big step is changing the style altogether - individual icons can be improved afterwards. Elekhh (talk) 08:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But b/c/d all represent "Western civilisation". Admittedly we are in the English Wikipedia, so it could make sense, but I would disagree. Option (e) seems more like a "culture" than "history" icon. Hence I'd recommend the hourglass. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Any suggestions for "Art" and "Reference" icons? -- Quiddity (talk) 03:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Alternatives for Art and culture: (a) P culture.svg, (b) P author.svg; however I'm happy with the Mona Lisa.
 * Alternatives for Reference: (a) P literature.svg, (b) AZ-List.svg ;Elekhh (talk) 08:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (a) for Reference. Any of the options for Art, (a/b/mona).
 * As noone else seems to be contributing, I'd say go for it and update away. Thanks for bringing it up :) -- Quiddity (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your constructive critique. I proceed than with the following set:
 * P literature.svg P culture.svg [[Image:P countries.png|30px]] [[Image:P medicine.svg|25px]] [[Image:Klepsydra-pt.svg|22px]] [[Image:P mathematics.svg|30px]] [[Image:P physics.svg|30px]] [[Image:P vip.svg|25px]] [[Image:socrates_blue_version2.png|28px]] [[Image:P religion.png|30px|]] [[Image:P social sciences.png|30px]] [[Image:P train.svg|30px]]. I would also appreciate your help in updating any other pages which use these icons, in case I miss them. Elekhh (talk) 01:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Very nice. I like the new style. It looks a lot more professional. Thank you for being bold and implementing it! The Transhumanist 00:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)