Wikipedia talk:Contributor copyright investigations/20190125

Progress
August 30, 2021
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Hog Farm Talk 06:42, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Ardfern's going to be closed down in a day or two if you'd like some help with this one. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  11:15, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That would be greatly appreciated! I've been trying to get through the long-hanging fruit.  A lot of these are lengthy mixes of copyvios and PD sources, with the occassional clean citation to a copyrighted work, and some of the web pages used have been hit hard by link rot.  So this could get slow-going. Hog Farm Talk 23:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

August 31, 2021
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September 1, 2021
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September 3, 2021
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September 9, 2021
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Proposal: Kill on sight
I am not convinced of the notability of much of this case's articles, and think others would be better merged into others, and this is all in a case with as much copypasta going on as Billy Hathorn. So I'm suggesting a "shoot first, ask questions later" approach reflective to the general Eventualist attitude of CCI. It will save a lot of time if we establish overwhelming authorship of an article and high amounts of copyvio from one or two diffs, and then WP:CP, rather than attempting rewrites. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  04:43, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * - Agreed. I was looking at 17th Arkansas Infantry Regiment (Lemoyne's) earlier today, and I don't really have a good response as to what to do with that one.  The message archiving system of that message board is a major pain, and I'm finding myself chucking way more time into hunting down the Howerton sources than it's worth.  For instance, after 6 or 7 minutes of hunting, I finally found this which looks like it's probably ref 1 based on the citation.  But I can't find half of the crap sourced to it in there (like the Cambridge wreck or the 15th (Northwest) Infantry.  It copies ref 10 I can confirm, but that source is so old the copyright has expired.  Most of the Gerdes refs work, but are mainly used to cite really basic facts that mostly seem to be rephrased enough to meet WP:LIMITED.  I can't prove copyvio, but I can't find a clear enough source to tell what's going on.  The lead may or may not be a violation - several in this CCI have been found to have copyright violations in the lead. (As an aside, I find it bizarre that that obscure message board appears to include multiple people who are actually published scholars on these topics) Hog Farm Talk 05:01, 4 September 2021 (UTC)