Wikipedia talk:Deletion review/Log/2011 December 25

María Viramontes
Spartaz, as you recall, you have protected a warning that I might be blocked if a post I make edit-conflicts with the closing of a DRV. So in order to avoid any possible conflict, I am posting here. To answer your question, see WP:GNG and look at footnote #1. Unscintillating (talk) 19:24, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Spartaz, As for the continuation of your comment, here is what Deletion guidelines for administrators says, "Per 'ignore all rules', a local consensus can suspend a guideline in a particular case where suspension is in the encyclopedia's best interests, but this should be no more common in deletion than in any other area." Deletion guidelines for administrators is a "generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply." Unscintillating (talk) 22:40, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * A pattern I am seeing is that none of the delete positions deny that the topic passes WP:GNG, and none of the keep positions deny that the topic fails WP:POLITICIAN. That could be called a consensus.  As per WP:N, passing WP:GNG, "is not a guarantee that a topic will necessarily be handled as a separate, stand-alone page. Editors may use their discretion to merge or group two or more related topics into a single article."  Unscintillating (talk) 22:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

@Flatscan, Yes, I used List of councilmembers of the Richmond City Council at the DRV, but it was not previously mentioned; here is the list of previously mentioned merge targets in related AfDs, three from me, and two from LuciferWildCat: Unscintillating (talk) 02:36, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * List of members of the Richmond City Council, merge target mentioned at Articles for deletion/Richard Griffin (Councilmember)
 * Richmond City Council, merge target mentioned at Articles for deletion/Richard Griffin (Councilmember)
 * "merged into the city council article", comment at Articles for deletion/Mindell Penn
 * List of Richmond City Council councilmembers, merge target mentioned at Articles for deletion/Mindell Penn
 * "If not I think a creation of the Richmond City Council (Richmond, California) history section would be cool to incubate some of these", comment at Articles for deletion/Mindell Penn.

The following is a statement posted at Articles for deletion/Richard Griffin (Councilmember), modified to show the disambiguated link to "Richmond City Council": Unscintillating (talk) 02:00, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Our guidelines do not say, " 'routine' means worthless". President Obama and the War in Iraq are "routinely" covered too, routine coverage means that we can expect that there is enough material about a topic to write an encyclopedia article.  Our policy at WP:Deletion policy suggests the next step to consider if a topic is not notable is, where can it be merged?  And we have at least one reasonable target, the Richmond City Council.  If we re-interpret the delete !votes to be merge !votes, we can also re-interpret the essence of the delete argument by recalling that WP:N is not satisfied just because a topic passes WP:GNG, the topic must also be "worthy of notice".  So we can still properly ask the question, "Is the topic "worthy of notice?" and question whether or not the topic should have a stand-alone article  Unscintillating (talk) 23:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the point of this thread anyway? Just seems to be you yammering on, perhaps in an attempt to circumvent your restrictions elsewhere  Purpleback  pack  89  ≈≈≈≈  03:06, 4 January 2012 (UTC)