Wikipedia talk:Discord/Archive 2

Template:Discussed in Discord
FYI, the Wikipedia discussion link template for Wikimedia Discord, Discussed in Discord, has been nominated for deletion at Templates for discussion/Log/2022 January 8 -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

WMUSA?
What is Wikimedia United States and how is it different from the English Wikipedia server? &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 04:40, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I presume it's an affiliate. That said, it should link to the Affiliates page, not to a direct invite link. If this isn't a real affiliate, it shouldn't be here at all. -- ferret (talk) 14:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not on the affiliate list (and I've not heard of it). The US has two chapters (NYC and DC) and a few geography-based user groups (New England, Cascadia), but not a national entity AFAIK. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 14:30, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Since this doesn't appear to be any sort of official Wikimedia affiliate, I'm uncomfortable labelling it as such here. For now, I've edited the link to the local Wikiproject as the editor seems to have linked from there as well. -- ferret (talk) 15:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ferret @Rhododendrites the server is meant to foster the development of the Wikimedia United States Coalition, which is a collection of in-development affiliates. The purpose vs. the main server is to allow for collaboration of topics of interest on a regional level and for editors to meet others who reside by them. For example, Chicago editors can work on Chicago articles with other Chicagoans. This is not easily done on the main server. The server also hopes to facilitate online and offline meetups between editors. Lectrician1 (talk) 15:22, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I will update the link to WUSC, but I think you are moving too quickly here as you've received no replies at all, let alone support. -- ferret (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I created the server even though there were little responses because I felt there was a strong need. There is a very large amount of editors from the United States across Wikimedia projects and they could benefit from a centralized group to discuss. People may not express their direct support now, but I find that they would join it if it was made-available and a sustainable community could grow. If you provide the resource, they will come. Lectrician1 (talk) 16:35, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Got kicked
Hey I was on discord and all I did was say hi everyone and then I logged back on discord later to see I was kicked from the server. Why was I kicked? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 13:48, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:ALLHAILMASTERFERRET" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Wikipedia:ALLHAILMASTERFERRET and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 26 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis 20:43, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Role selection
Quick suggestion, ignore if you disagree. The new roles channels take up a lot of prime screen real estate in the left menu on Discord. Consider merging the two channels into one, and consider taking them out of their own category (e.g. putting them in the "no category" that contains info, wikiauthlog, botcommands. Thanks. – Novem Linguae (talk) 21:37, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The solution is to collapse the category. Multiple channels are used to help manage the different combination of options as well as planning for future expansions. Additionally some channels are locked behind other roles that you're not seeing, so the category allows people who do to collapse the entire section to 1 row. -- ferret (talk) 21:41, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah as Ferret said, you can collapse the category, or you can mute the channel which will hide it altogether. (You can uncheck "Hide muted channels" in the server dropdown if you ever need to access a muted channel). Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  00:52, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Event: Vector 2022 staff discussion
Somewhat late and we don't really have a formal way to broadcast events to the site, but a discussion about Vector 2022 for interested parties with WMF staff Olga, Alex and Syzmon is beginning at 12:30PM EST (essentially, now). For any page watchers. Hi everyone, Olga, Alex, and Szymon from the team building Vector 2022 will be waiting for you to talk about the skin and the RfC running on English Wikipedia. No slides planned, no agenda, let's just hang out.

-- ferret (talk) 16:29, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Ban appeal from A diehard editor

 * Dear Wikimedia Community Discord staff,

I am A diehard editor (Discord: Lemuria#0685, ID: 446492687013773323), and this is my ban appeal.

Before my ban on September 16, 2022, the last thing that I said was "imagine crying over some random old woman dying thousands of kilometers from your home". I was then banned. I then went to the talk page for WP:DISCORD to request a formal reason for my ban, which was "repeated inflammatory or problematic communications, including when asked to avoid such, of which the final edit was merely the most recent". I now acknowledge that my opinions, particularly regarding English variants and the date format, were expressed in a disruptive and offensive manner, which I deeply regret.

After this ban, I decided to take a break from the server for a while to reflect on the consequences of my actions. It has now been roughly two weeks as of writing this on October 1, 2022. I apologize for the harm I caused to the community with my actions, and I wish to never re-offend.

I promise to refrain from expressing my opinion about English variants in an offensive or rule-breaking manner, to refrain from breaking the rules, to not make inflammatory statements. Additionally, I promise to follow the rules of the server.

I hope that my return to the server will benefit the community as a whole, as I wish to continue chatting with my fellow editors and importantly, work together to contribute to Wikipedia.

A diehard editor (talk &#124; edits) 16:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Moderators have seen, further action will be on Discord if it proceeds. -- ferret (talk) 14:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello there - it's been roughly 2 weeks now. What is the status of the current appeal? A diehard editor (talk &#124; edits) 23:15, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you haven't gotten a reply, no one is interested in looking into the appeal. Please do not post again. -- ferret (talk) 23:57, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Ban appeal tttmaker
I am tttmaker on discord, so why was I banned with no warning, again? Tttmaker (talk) 15:02, 9 October 2022 (UTC)


 * This ban appeal is declined. There will be no further reply. -- ferret (talk) 15:07, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've filed an arbcom case request. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case Tttmaker (talk) 16:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Lmao. ArbCom does not have jurisdiction over Discord, but thanks for wasting everyone's time. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:40, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It was just a honest mistake. (I know this may be not a good reply since it's been a month since the last reply here, I apologise if this is unconstructive) Waylon111 (talk) 18:33, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Can't join
Hi there I can't join invite link is invalid 2806:2F0:4180:D8AB:F1AF:EA62:14B0:EF70 (talk) 21:00, 20 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I have just tested and the invite is still valid. -- ferret (talk) 21:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

luxtaythe2nd's ban appeal
Hello! It is me, luxtaythe2nd (luxtaythe2nd#0287 on Discord, 719834527282888785 user ID). It has been 4 months since my ban and I would like to appeal my ban from the Wikimedia server following lengthy and careful consideration.

Firstly, I would like to note that I've become more active on Wikipedia since I left the Wikimedia server and think that having access to channels such as #english-wikipedia would significantly help me in my period of renewed activity, as I currently only have access to a few Wikipedia-related contacts. With this, I think I can return without immediately violating the server contribution rule as I might have tried to before. Additionally, I have long grown out of my immature jokes I used to habitually make back in 2021 and a bit into 2022&mdash;or, in a humorous fashion, New Year, new home, new surroundings, new me. Merry February and a happy winterspring from Luxtay the IInd (talketh to me) 19:31, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Holy Network Adapter#0063 ~ ban appeal
Hi, It's been a few months since my ban and I have zero idea what it was for. I've emailed a staff member at the same time of the ban but I didn't seem to get a response (atleast the last time I checked). My Discord is Holy Network Adapter#0063, if any staff member could review the ban? Thanks in advance. HolyNetworkAdapter (talk) 00:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC)


 * as mentioned above, if it has been a while since you've emailed a staff member, they may simply not be interested in reviewing your ban. Hope this helps. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 06:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @HolyNetworkAdapter Sorry for the delay in responding to you, we couldn't find the reason for your ban in our logs. As such, I've unbanned you. Sam Walton (talk) 12:20, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! HolyNetworkAdapter (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Ban appeal for Nomz#4568
Heya folks, I was banned for doing some troll-editing on an obscure page (Porthclais) and posting about it. The edits were reverted and I've worked hard to improve other pages since. Would love to be back to see if anyone on the discord is interesting in expanding the stub-class articles I'm working on right now. NomzEditingWikis (talk) 07:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Reason for ban?
I am AngerxietY#1252 on Discord, and while sitting in a voice channel, I was banned. I don't see why I would get banned, but here I am! So, I would like to ask why I am banned.

Thanks! - Ang  erxi  ety  00:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Do you recall the contents of the "about me" section in your Discord user profile, and if so, can you elaborate on the meaning of it? Enterprisey (talk!) 01:04, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I can't recall anything really (I have terrible memory.) If the "about me" section was the problem I can always change it! Ang  erxi  ety  15:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This is problematic. Of course we can tell you to change it, and you can agree to do so. The issue is that you didn't think what you put there was problematic at all. And if you deflect and cannot express why it was problematic, we can't trust it won't happen again. -- ferret (talk) 15:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I suppose asking the question that way was a mistake. I'll try again. Presumably you still have access to the AngerxietY#1252 Discord account; you can thus use any Discord client to check what's in the "about me" section of your profile. Now, can you explain the meaning of it? If you've since changed it, that would be good to know, but in that case I'd also be interested in why you changed it. Enterprisey (talk!) 03:47, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Very late response, I apologize. As I detailed before, I don't remember any of my "About me". The reason why I've changed it is that there is no particular reason. I just change it from time to time. Ang  erxi  ety  07:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, that's fine if you've forgotten it. I still remember it; it was several lines from the Panzerlied (an article which you've edited). We didn't want anyone who chose to express themselves in their profile with that song on the server for obvious reasons (i.e. the fact that it's a Nazi military march). If you want to explain yourself further, feel free. Enterprisey (talk!) 14:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

link expired
cannot join. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 12:35, 31 May 2023 (UTC)


 * We have a permanent non-expiring link. I've validated at it is still working. -- ferret (talk) 12:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Appeal
I have been banned from the discord. I would like to appeal. I am trying to connect with an admin and get assistance. I am upset and trying to find a solution. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 03:00, 18 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Please describe why you think you were banned and what you will do in the future to avoid that problem. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 03:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * According to ferret, I was banned because they are the server admin, the sever is unofficial, and they have the right to make that decision. And none of those things are incorrect. At this point I am trying to find some kind of civil solution to a dispute. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 03:29, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand this was a miscommunication on all sides. I apologize for the part I played in that. I understand now that I was not being accused of sockpuppetry and it was a misunderstanding. I don't think there will be any issue like this going forward. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 04:36, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @PonyToast This appeal doesn't really address the full range of what led up to your ban. Accusing other editors of attacking you isn't something I'm willing to chalk up to a miscommunication. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 01:52, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It was a misunderstanding, and I have recognized that I made a mistake. I made my appeal in good faith and I am asking you to do the same. Please. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 03:40, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Are you willing to drop any accusations made against other users in the server, and any requests for non-interaction made to other users in the server? Enterprisey (talk!) 03:37, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Proposal: add #wp-help as channel for general Wikipedia help
I'm getting the impression that more and more of our newer users are already familiar with Discord, and possibly even prefer it to some other methods of communication. In particular, I wonder if it would be appropriate to create a channel here specifically geared to helping new users with their questions about editing Wikipedia?

The channel topic would essentially be identical to that of the WP:Tea house or WP:Help desk, simply in a platform and format geared to users that feel more comfortable with Discord. If accepted as a proposal, please reserve #en-help as an alias, because if it is successful, I can foresee other channels forming later on, like #fr-help (for help in French, primarily for French Wikipedia or smaller Wikipedias for which French is a widely used second language like ht-wiki), #es-help (Spanish), #zh-help (Chinese), and so on.

Note that our help page "WP:Your first article" still mentions IRC channels as one method of getting help (i.e. ), and I think our newer users may prefer Discord to 80s/90s technology. This proposal is related to an effort currently underway to rewrite the YFA page entirely and bring it up to date. If this proposal is accepted, I would then add mention of Discord and the new channel to the new Draft YFA page currently in progress. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Withholding in-depth commentary for now, but we've tossed around the idea of a #teahouse before. We would likely not make it English specific in name though, at the other examples given just now all use their own language specific Discords (perhaps already having help channels). This one focuses on serving English language and meta projects. -- ferret (talk) 20:29, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Secondary point: Generally for specific focus channels (like for say WikiProjects), something I look for is buy in from the project/group that wants the channel. Before we'd open a #help or #teahouse, we'd need to see a discussion among the people who frequent those areas that they want and will use it. We're happy to support in that case, but wary of "make it first and see if they come". That puts a burden on our moderation team to see it through without necessarily having community support. -- ferret (talk) 20:32, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That makes perfect sense. I'll hold off on further initiatives in this area, until there's some discussion about it in the other venues. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:17, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth from someone who frequents all three areas (Teahouse, Help Desk and Discord), new users seem to be fairly well served by the current Discord channel setup. There typically aren't a lot of new user questions - obviously that could change if YFA is revised to point to Discord, though. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It is a bit of a chicken or egg situation. Like when credit cards were invented: what person would want one, if no business accepted them? What company would spend the money and create the infrastructure and training to accept and process them, and—get this: get their money for the purchase *later* whaaat? really??—if nobody had one. As said, it probably has to start with buy-in from TEA and/or HD, followed by a leap of faith. Wouldn't be the first time some WP gadget or feature was created, that went nowhere. Can't really tell for sure, until you try. Mathglot (talk) 17:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Buying on credit is rather an older concept than our modern credit cards, but yes, your point stands. I wonder how much traffic the IRC help channel gets? I've never been there. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:24, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm certain new users would end up in Discord if this was adopted and integrated with TEA/HD templates and headers, etc. That's not in question. The important question is: Will the TEA/HD people show up to help them? :) -- ferret (talk) 18:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That's part of it, for sure. But for better or worse, a platform tends to create its own ecosphere, e.g. the average TikTok user isn't the average Facebook user (and partly, for the former, that's the point). What I'm guessing would happen, is that a certain fraction of TEA/HD folks would indeed show up (probably the ones most predisposed to it anyway, plus the curious and the FOMOs), but that a #wp-help channel would begin to grow organically into its own thing, developing a new set of helpers, some of whom (maybe many of whom) would be former #wp-help-ees, now with experience under their belt and ready to help others. There would be an overlap in function, as there is now between TEA/HD and IRC help, and even some overlap in "bi-platformal" helpers, but would likely develop a goodly number of locals who only hang out at one, or only the other. And I think that's okay. End result: more help options for editors, and that can only be a good thing. One major platform's motto is, "There's more than one way to do it", and I think that applies here at Wikimedia for many sorts of things as well. Mathglot (talk) 19:30, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Such a new methodology also should consider whether it gives the best net gain, even assuming we do get the HD/TH helpers to get it to work. Generally, it's preferable for most users and most questions that it be asked on-wiki: it's easier to demonstrate the actual answer, likely more eyes on it, and of course it gets them rolling on-wiki. For some questions Discord will be better (most notably, any question that someone wouldn't ask on-wiki), others it'll be the same, but for quite a few first-time questions I feel it wouldn't be as good. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:44, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Well... I'm already "here", so... yes and no? I don't think we'd get a bunch of new folks coming over to Discord to staff the channel; it'd probably end up being me and some of the other semi-regulars who already hang out on Discord. Consider carefully whether you want me to be the on-Discord face of Wikipedia for newbies.  199.208.172.35 (talk) 13:52, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Ban Appeal for kedokinnie
i had previously been a member of the Wikimedia discord and was banned for a few racial remarks. i belive since then ive been able to evolve and put forth a new attitude in the server Kedokinnie (talk) 23:11, 1 August 2023 (UTC)


 * You do not currently appear to be banned. -- ferret (talk) 23:13, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Ban appeal for @quokka.wiki
Hello!

Today, my discord account, @quokka.wiki was banned. The reason for my ban was canvassing due to linking to a deletion discussion I started.

While canvassing is against the server rules, I believe my message was not canvassing, at least in the way I worded my message.

My message was something along the lines of Y'all are invited to the following discussion: Deletion discussion. In my opinion, this message complies with WP:CANVASS for the following reasons:

Quick Quokka [⁠talk • contribs] 13:34, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep the number of notifications small &mdash; ✅ only linked on the  (where the discussion about the file started) and   channel.
 * Keep the message text neutral &mdash; ✅ I did not tell chat members how to vote, and I was open to new perspectives.
 * Don't preselect recipients according to their established opinions &mdash; ✅ I did not target any specific chat members.


 * For example, a message that would've been against the canvassing policy would've read something like Please vote delete in Deletion discussion, and it would've been sent in every channel, and I would have pinged only people I know would vote for its deletion. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 13:59, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Continuing to WP:Wikilawyer about whether you were canvassing under a particular definition is not going to help your case. The rule on the server is that you're not allowed to ask for votes in discussions. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 14:36, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not wikilawyering, this is not a technicality, this is literally the policy. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 15:25, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You're failing to listen. Discord does not operate under WP:CANVAS, an on-wiki policy. It operates under its own guidelines, where rule #2 forbids canvassing to deletion and review discussions. The link to canvas is informational. You were warned not to do this, not just by moderators but by multiple other participants, and you continued to do it. I do not, at this time, believe you will stop. -- ferret (talk) 15:30, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm repealing my ban appeal, it's not worth it tbh, there are better channels of communication with other Wikipedia editors, and I'm also too sleep deprived right now to do anything. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 15:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I will not be handling this case, but I want to agree with Anti that arguing that Please vote delete in Deletion discussion would have been bad, but Y'all are invited to Deletion discussion was ok, is an strange stance to take. Lecturing us (this isn't the first time) on what "canvassing really is" as if we have no idea and are confused isn't going to work. You were asked not to do this by moderators. Your take on what canvassing "is" doesn't matter after that. You continued, after warnings and notification that moderators had their eyes on your behavior, and the ban is the result of that. This is much like onwiki blocks, where we point to WP:GAB. You need to be appealing on the basis of what you'll do differently going forward to no longer cause disruption for the moderators. Not explain how your ban/block was wrong in your eyes. -- ferret (talk) 14:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * - Seddon talk 15:39, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Already repealed the request before you declined. Not worth it, don't care. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 15:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Just noting it as the outcome of the above discussion. The order of operations doesn't matter too much. Seddon talk 15:50, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You may want to read up on WP:STEALTH. I am going to edit it a bit and see if it sticks, but before my edits it said: Because it is less transparent than on-wiki notifications, the use of email or other off-wiki communication to notify editors is discouraged unless there is a significant reason for not using talk page notifications. Even if WP:STEALTH hypothetically did not exist, it is good to follow the lead of experienced Wikipedians when they are telling you that your behavior is violating a norm. Not all of our rules/practices/norms are properly documented and up to date. Sometimes you just need to read the room and trust more experienced users. Hope this helps. – Novem Linguae (talk) 01:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I think what the policy means by stealth canvassing is with private means of communication, but I may be wrong.
 * Yes, it does specifically mention Discord, but I think it's not about the public servers, but about public DMs.
 * I was not stealthy in any way about how I informed other editors about the discussion.
 * Anyways, this discussion is really beating a dead horse, because I repealed my request, and because Seddon already denied my request. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 04:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * but I may be wrong not only are you wrong, the fact you were explicitly asked to stop doing it should have simply been the end of it. All the argument just digs a deeper hole. In this context, "Stealth" means using any avenue other than on-wiki to bring in participation. You invited people in off-site, and did not denote that on-site. I really hope you reflect further on this interaction, because this intractableness is a fast course to issues later down the road. Although Seddon has already stated a general Decline on moderator behalf, let me make it as clear as possible: As the server operator, I will not allow an unban until I see significant change in your interactions and behavior, particularly when more experienced editors and administrators explain rules to you and you argue or double down. -- ferret (talk) 15:25, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This whole discussion after me repealing my vote and Seddon declining my unban request is really beating a dead horse.
 * I personally disagree with you on this issue, but that doesn't matter anymore since that ship has sailed now. Let's move on with our lives, we both probably have better things to do than to participate in this discussion. I do not wish to be unbanned, and I have explicitly stated that multiple times.
 * I would archive this discussion if I could, but I'm not [an] uninvolved editor or administrator, so I'm not archiving it. Quick Quokka  [⁠talk • contribs] 19:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Ban appeal
I am duck_master#8022, and was banned from the main Discord server earlier tonight. I had been active and productive in the pure-text channels for a week or so (mainly #general and #english-wikipedia), but early tonight I decided to join a voice channel. Fellow wikimedians soon started complaining about background noise, and I was server-muted and server-deafened. After complaining about it on that voice channel's associated text channel I was briefly un-deafened, soon re-deafened, and then banned. Please unban me; I promise to continue staying productive in the Discord server and will try to use voice channels in quiet places.

Duckmather (talk) 03:42, 1 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Just noting this is currently being discussed by the server's mods. Seddon talk 16:11, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

An Appeal
Discord Username: Paragon Deku

Contradictory information on whether or not I ought to elaborate on the nature of it here. I would appreciate a DM to hash it out. Paragon Deku (talk) 04:14, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The moderation team has discussed and will not be entertaining an appeal at this time. -- ferret (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Unfortunate. Paragon Deku (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Ban Appeal
Discord username: dimensionally

I would like to appeal my ban DimensionalFusion   (talk)  19:49, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


 * , good ban appeals generally start with you telling us what you think you were banned for and why we should believe that it won't happen again. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:50, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @GeneralNotability Ah thanks for that, WP:DISCORD just said to "make a simple post with your Discord username and that you would like to appeal" and to "not go into details"- is this outdated? DimensionalFusion   (talk)  20:54, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @DimensionalFusion Friend request sent from @anticomposite. Please send your appeal and I will share it with the rest of the moderators. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 22:13, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Why was i banned?
My account discord account is Pilot1218, I was only on the discord server for about 15 minutes before I got hit with a ban, i hadn't even said anything. my only guess as to why I got banned was because of my very recent comments on WP:BFDI, which was too profanity-ridden for Wikipedia, which I apologise for. if I was banned for a different reason, please tell me why and I'll change. PilotIguess (talk) 18:23, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Blatant transphobia is not permitted. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 18:43, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Reappeal for me, Duckmather
I got banned about a year ago (to the month, almost!) due to an issue in the voice channel; see WT:Discord/Archive 1 for more information. My Discord username was, but following the Discord identifier removal my username is now. Please unban me, as the original incident seems to have been forgotten. Duckmather (talk) 19:17, 30 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Duckmather: You have been unbanned, although for now you're still not allowed in voice chat; I would recommend productively participating for a decent period of time before bringing that up. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:59, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I will rejoin the server shortly. I promise to stay away from voice chat. Duckmather (talk) 18:57, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

did i get banned?
my user is lolkikmoddzi and i wanna know if i got banned cause im not in the server, and i didn't get any dms if i was banned :/ Lolkikmoddi   (message me!)  01:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, you are banned. We are required to follow Discord's Terms of Service and you've indicated you are evading previous platform ban. I'm sorry but we'll not be able to provide any further assistance with this. -- ferret (talk) 01:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * like what platform bans? Lolkikmoddi   (message me!)  01:41, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you're quite aware, as you were the one to reveal it. As I said, I'm sorry, but we'll not be able to provide any further assistance with this. This is really the end of the topic. -- ferret (talk) 01:43, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Appeal
Discord username: CrafterNova#8700

I hereby appeal my bans from the main Wikimedia server and the Queer Wikimedians server, on the following grounds: &mdash; CrafterNova  [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 06:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I regret the way I discussed controversial topics on the main Wikimedia server and the Queer Wikimedians server.
 * I don't understand how my behaviour broke the rules of these servers, how the discussion was "taking over the LGBTQ+ channel" on the main Wikimedia server, and I wish that a reasonable explanation could be given.
 * I believe I was acting in good faith, I still am acting in good faith, and all good people are still valid even if they disagree with me or the scientific consensus regarding LGBTQ+ people.
 * I can agree to refrain from such discussions if so desired.
 * I strive to support development of an environment where all good people feel safe, comfortable, valid, and accepted regardless of sex, gender, sexuality, race, ethnicity, profession, religion, or anything, and aim to keep that promise forever.


 * The main Wikimedia server declines. Queer Wikimedians does not use this page and I do not speak for them, but I made them aware. -- ferret (talk) 21:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * There need to be fair reasons for the ban. Please give at least some explanation. &mdash; CrafterNova  [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 14:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * There actually doesn't "need to be", we can remove individuals for any reason at our discretion. But specifically here, this appeal itself doubled down on some positions you've taken, in both servers, that erases the identities of others within our space. We're not comfortable having that around, and won't be lifting the ban. -- ferret (talk) 15:13, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't understand how "this appeal itself doubled down on some positions" and "erases the identities of others within our space". Your discretions are finite. I don't care anymore whether my bans will be lifted or not. I will attend Wikimedia events and meetups in the future, and make friends with Wikipedians outside of Discord, including LGBTQ+ people. &mdash; CrafterNova  [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 10:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. -- ferret (talk) 13:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Ban Appeal
Hello, my username is "_cosmic___" and I would like to appeal my ban. -- Cosmic 🍁 ( T · C ) 05:58, 17 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cosmic6811 You've been unbanned. Much like your unblock on-site, consider this conditional in that very little leniency will be given. Make sure you give a read over the Server Guide and the rules, and if you have any questions about something feel free to ask. -- ferret (talk) 17:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thank you --  Cosmic6811  🍁 ( T ·  C ) 19:10, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Ban Appeal
Hello! I randomly got banned from the discord server for an unknown reason, my reasonable guess whas my nickname or username what I have changed. Username : vstabbity KteBsh (talk) 23:55, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Ban appeal
notakitsune I would like to make an appeal Not a kitsune (talk) 01:00, 14 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok. Declined. Make some edits and come back in a while. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 01:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

hello?
i was suddenly kicked out and couldn't rejoin. no notification of any ban. can i appeal this? ltb d l (talk) 03:56, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


 * This ban is lifted. I recommend more carefully considering your words going forward, re, your 'joke' towards scruntinners the other night. If you catch another ban for similar it's unlikely I will bother inquiring with the responsible mod. -- ferret (talk) 13:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Ban appeal
I have no idea why I was banned? Like I was just sleeping and woke up to find out I lost access to the discord server and I couldn't rejoin? I wasn't even notified that I was banned or given any reason. If I did break a rule, I would like to at least know what I broke so that I can apologize for it and not repeat it.

My username is alepf. – Howard  🌽33  14:42, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * This ban has been lifted, take this as a lesson in device security. Never leave devices unlocked. There are always unsuspecting individuals around. Seddon talk 13:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Huh? Did someone hack my account? – Howard  🌽33  18:35, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

RfC to add either the laughing doge, the spanish guy, or omegalul because the default :joy: and :rofl: emojis are cheugy and redditous
ferret should give us emoji(s?) for loling about stuff in a way that is cool and hip, rather than cheugy, and of reddit, and also of the dumpster.

😂 <- this is awful. this is the one people post on facebook about how they love to buy iphones and go to the grocery store.

🤣 <- this is even worse. this is just the pits. this is the one elon musk posts underneath some ifunny meme where rick from rick and morty is saying "How Come You Drive In The Parkway But You park In the Driveway".

jp×g🗯️ 13:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Option 1: :berk: (link) - the jovial dog whomst loves to laugh. a classic.
 * Option 2: :kekw: (link) - the spanish guy from that one video where he's telling the story about the paellas. another classic.
 * Option 3: :omegalul: (link) - the kids love this one. i think its pretty good too.
 * Option 4: :epic: (718smiley.svg) - an absolute legend, time-honored standby of posts old and new. if you werent posting this dude in 2006 i dont know what you were doing with your life. also its creative commons i guess lol that kind of rules
 * Option 5: something else (if someone says poggers theres going to be some inane politics argument about the frog so dont do that pls)
 * Option 6: we keep using the reddit-ass default emojis, and i'm forced out of desperation to use :skull: like a 40 year old man wearing skinny jeans and styling his combover into the emo swoosh -- it's not natural -- do you really want this from me?


 * All current custom emojis are taken from Commons and free to use. I do not believe options 1 through 3 are technically free. Option 4 would be fine, bother GN with it. -- ferret (talk) 15:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

NOTE: this isnt a real rfc because it doesnt actually have any power to bind anyone to anything. so i think i should be allowed to canvas for it jp×g🗯️</b> 13:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Support all with preference for Option 1, per nom. <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b>


 * I think the correct option is to abolish the use of emojis and make everyone start using emoticons again :) — m w  (talk) (contribs) 13:53, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * (_8^(|) Homer Simpson ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:54, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * D'oh! – Novem Linguae (talk) 23:23, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I propose Option 7: the and  emoji. Okay, but seriously I think Option 4 is the only feasible option here. The other three are copyrighted or derivatives of copyrighted emotes, sadly, and they would not be allowed under the rules ferret just mentioned. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:15, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I support option 4 and/or crops of old PD paintings and movies, because that seems to fit the spirit. Enterprisey (talk!) 06:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * a few days ago i was trying to find pubby dommy and/or creey commy berks actually. i will see if i can rustle some up <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 21:22, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * hey I found poggers Joos_van_Craesbeeck_-_A_Man_Surprised.jpg (shoutout to barkeep49 for finding it) Enterprisey (talk!) 06:18, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This owns <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 20:41, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above that only 4 is feasible, but as a member of the "cool kids", it feels like staring into the annals of an archaeology museum. In any case, we currently have non-free stickers (namely Thurston Waffles, bless his soul, and variations with overlay text); a single exception to the free-images-only rule probably wouldn't hurt. In such a case, I upvote :berk: and downvote :omegalul: Chlod <small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">(say hi!) 04:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm more likely to remove the non-frees than add more, now that I'm aware. -- ferret (talk) 15:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * In that case, option 5/6 sounds least jarring. I just realized that we can probably use any version of the cursed laughing emoji (as there are numerous with varying eye distance or teardrop size), as that's just an eerie amalgamation (derivation) of the Twemoji12 1f602.svg and Twemoji12 1f633.svg emojis from the Twemoji set, which is freely licensed. It's still free, and it's a more modern alternative to :epic:. In any case, I'm not totally invested in the outcome of this discussion; feel free to skip over this. Chlod <small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">(say hi!) 16:03, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Nonfree emojis/stickers have been removed. Several of the 718smiley set added. -- ferret (talk) 19:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * $5 says you just made up this nonfree emoji policy on the spot but i accept this judgment and it's also funny and tbh rather based. i appreciate having the ersatz poggers and i will get looking for a freely licensed berk <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 22:41, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No, it was the intent all along from the start. A very small handful of nonfrees came in from a different system admin. -- ferret (talk) 22:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Ban appeal
My username is dimensionally; I'd like to appeal my ban. I never recieved any response on my previous appeal 5 months ago, so I assume it was denied. Thanks! DimensionalFusion  (talk)  19:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The moderators have discussed and are declining. -- ferret (talk) 14:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Ban appeal
Discord username is the_goonch123.SouthParkFan65 (talk) 23:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Friend request sent. Please send me the details of your appeal. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 00:27, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Unban request
My account (username: cptviraj) was compromised, fixed now, please unban, thanks! -- CptViraj (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @CptViraj: could you please verify that you have reset your password and reviewed your "Authorized Apps" in your account settings (removing anything that you don't recognize or don't trust)? Just making sure :) <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 14:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have. -- CptViraj (talk) 14:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @CptViraj I've unbanned you, you should now be able to re-join. Sam Walton (talk) 14:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Ban appeal
After a few ban appeals on this talk page, I'm ready to finally get my nearly 2-year-old ban case done with in private. I have a lot to talk about now, and it's been bugging me for the past couple of months. My username is luxtay. Luxtay the IInd (talketh to me) 15:59, 7 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Noting awareness of appeal. -- ferret (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2024
Please add a shortcut on top for WP:DISCORD. 221.168.37.223 (talk) 06:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅ as the shortcut has been around for a while. ― <kbd style="font-size:85%"><b style="color:#270;rotate:-2deg;display:inline-block">novov</b> (t   c)  07:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Good Faith
I was posting on Discord in good faith. I requested ferret use discretion and understanding. I request a server unban. -- Sleyece (talk) 00:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Declined. Good faith is not a get out of jail free card to be disruptive and refuse to listen to moderators. We gave good faith. You exhausted it with a battleground mentality. -- ferret (talk) 00:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I respect your decision, and I request that you change your mind when the election is over considering the contextual conditions of the issue. -- Sleyece (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * There are no contextual conditions to the decision, it does not relate to the U4C election. You have repeatedly declared you know policies better than moderators and admins and make them 'eat their words' and 'prove them wrong', even when presented with evidence to the contrary. We are not interested in this. You'll have to find other avenues of communication. -- ferret (talk) 01:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I am making the request because the election is very stressful, and I'm trying my best in it. I had no issues on Discord prior to becoming a candidate, and I told ELECTCOM they can remove my candidacy at any time. They are currently meeting on my request. I sincerely apologize if I hurt your feelings or offended you in any way. My intention was only to post within the guidelines of the Server. I requested that you explain why my mentality is poor in comparison to the Civility Policy I was using. That is the context. You were very comfortable and friendly with me yesterday. I don't know what changed, but all I requested was an explanation. You said that there was a "battleground mentality", but you were patient with me and friendly until like 2-3 minutes before your decision, and it was directly related to the election. Also, candidates are supposed to be allowed to campaign. -- Sleyece (talk) 01:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

shortcut?
I expected WP:DISCORD to link to a policy/guideline page or consensus-discussion about the reliability of, the linking to, or the citing of, Discord. Can anybody point me to that which I'm actually looking for? —  Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 15:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Fourthords Discord is a purely WP:USERG platform so by definition anything on it is unreliable. That said, and someone else will have to find it for me, there is an RfC on the VP that resulted in the linking of Discord messages being viewed as an OUTING issue and should not be done. -- ferret (talk) 15:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Village pump (policy)/Archive 169, I think, for the outing RFC. – Novem Linguae (talk) 18:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:USERG is complicated by WP:ABOUTSELF, though, which says they "may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they are established experts in the field". That section specifically calls out Facebook, LinkedIn, Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter as acceptable.  Discord, though, is a sort of private chat room, and lacks the access and transparency (and more) of those other services, and we thereby cannot know that any given self-publisher is actually who's being identified.  Is there any consensus (codified or not) that contends with these issues?  —   Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 16:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As you said, Discord lacks a real system of user verification, so I would think it would be extremely difficult to properly use it as a primary source. I am thinking you'll want to move this to WP:RSN or some similar area for more opinions. -- ferret (talk) 16:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Definitely where I'm going next; I just came here thinking surely it'd been addressed before. Cheers, all.  —   Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 20:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Facebook, LinkedIn, Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter don't have a real system of user verification either, and even if they did, why would we trust it? The principle we apply to those other platforms is that if @JohnSmith is widely believed to be John Smith, we can take that as a given.
 * My immediate reaction is that citing Discord would be absurd, but thinking about it, I can't see any meaningful difference between it and other social media platforms that we allow under WP:SOCIALMEDIA. Discord chat rooms are, unless configured otherwise, public (which is why the outing RfC was always completely absurd, but I digress) and such constitute (self-) published information. You have to set up an account and accept their Terms of Service to see the information, but that is also true of Facebook, JSTOR, your local university library, and many other perfectly acceptable sources. Difficulty of access is not something that disqualifies something as a source either; again see Facebook, JSTOR, your local university library... Discord can't possibly be a good source—if you can only source something to there, is it really WP:DUE?—but technically it is permissable under the existing guidelines at WP:SOCIALMEDIA. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 08:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Joe Roe I could see a few rare cases where a developer or personality might use their own 'official' Discord server for communication, but I would think in most of those cases we could find a better social media if the news/info is actually DUE as well. -- ferret (talk) 19:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Unban request
My dc username is young_robert. I made a joke which was not taken well, i didn't mean any harm and was just trying to be funny. i'm sorry and please unban me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rovi9805 (talk • contribs) 21:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Declined. We have no space for people who make nazi jokes. -- ferret (talk) 21:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * i really didn't mean it like that, i have been reading about biological warfare and kurt blome was on my mind. i apologize, and was only joking Rovi9805 (talk) 03:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Will this be permanent or is it timed? I only want to read and contriubte in the biology projects in discord Rovi9805 (talk) 17:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Bans are permanent. You can try to appeal again in six months with a solid track record of editing. There is little reason for us to unban someone who makes nazi jokes who isn't even editing. -- ferret (talk) 17:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Why do you keep saying "nazi jokes"? You're trying to make it sound worse than it is Rovi9805 (talk) 20:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You make a joking reference to Kurt Blome. Per our article, "Kurt Blome (31 January 1894 – 10 October 1969) was a high-ranking Nazi scientist" who "participated in chemical and biological warfare experiments on concentration camp inmates". It's not ferret making you look bad here. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Specifically saying "jokes" making it sound like there were multiple instances. The funny thing is that I read about him as a MKUltra (USA) scientist and didn't intend any Nazi association, but here I am permanently banned for "we have no space for people who make nazi jokes" Rovi9805 (talk) 22:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The fact that you keep trying to argue that this wasn't that bad is not helping you any, especially given that you're not even really an active editor (5 of your 12 edits are to this page). If I were you, I would take ferret's incredibly lenient suggestion above that you can re-appeal in six months with an actual track record of edits. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 22:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Why should I have to be an avid editor to connect with other people who share my passion of biology Wikipedia? Rovi9805 (talk) 03:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * If you cannot accept our conditions, please don't bother replying or appealing further. The server exists to further collaboration between editors, not to use the offtopic channel to ask about Turing awards and make a nazi joke. -- ferret (talk) 03:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Are the conditions "You can try to appeal again in six months with a solid track record of editing" offered to all banned Discord members, or is it an offer exclusive for "Rovi9805"? -- Sleyece (talk) 03:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The condition for you is that you commit to not behaving in the manner that got you banned in the first place: arguing, wikilawyering, declaring you know better than the mods who wrote the server policies, and generally exhausting the patience of everyone in the server. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course I commit to it. I did not fully understand the WP:LAWYER policy prior to April 7, and ferret has personally aided in my better understanding of it in the ensuing days. I've stricken much of my last statement from April 7 on this page for context. -- Sleyece (talk) 08:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * just a question, is a perma IP ban with 6 month appeal for MKultra joke/asking about the turing award documented anywhere or did you guys just make that up special for me? Rovi9805 (talk) 04:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Appeal
My username on Discord is the same as my Wikipedia handle, and wish for someone to reach out so as to come to an understanding for what happened leading up to my ban. Akaibu (talk) 02:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I am willing to discuss, but you have made less than 20 edits since your ban in February, so unless there are extenuating circumstances, we are unlikely to unban right now. I have sent you a friend request to enable me to DM you. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)