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First student enrolled!
Hey All. Just wanted to ping all the ambassadors that we have a student enrolled: User:Athenaeumian who is at the Corning Museum of Glass. There are several more students at universities libraries I am expecting in the next couple weeks! I am expecting about 5-8 students in this first semester. Looking forward to having help from everyone, Sadads (talk) 21:59, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool! I didn't know that editing the talk page pinged all the ambassadors, but good to know! Cheers, Thanks,  L235 - Talk Ping when replying 22:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Everyone!
I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to properly introduce myself before now! I'm Christina, the Public Services Intern at the Rakow Research Library in Corning, NY. I've been working on familiarizing myself with the Wikipedia editing world (I'm still never sure I'm not making mistakes!), and have so far tackled a couple small edits, but now I'm scheming to work on some larger projects. Some of the articles I'll be plugging away at, in case anyone wants to check in from time to time:


 * World Kitchen
 * Wilhelmina Geddes
 * Worshipful Company of Glaziers and Painters of Glass

Anyway, I'm so glad to be on board!

Athenaeumian (talk) 16:21, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome! Feel free to ping here if you need anything at all; mistakes are very easy to correct on Wikipedia, so Be Bold!. — xaosflux  Talk 18:12, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Second Intern editing
Hey All, our second intern is editing at Draft:Ida Kidder. It would be great if someone could help coral and support that work, Sadads (talk) 23:01, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Everyone!
Hello fellow Wikipedians! I am a new intern for the Oklahoma State Library, working with them to edit and develop pages discussing historical figures associated with Oklahoma. I do have a question that I am hoping someone can answer. If a library owns the copyright on images, what are our options when uploading to the Wikimedia Commons? Amcdougal (talk) 16:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Amcdougal! Essentially if the library owns the copyright on the image and no one else does (ie it's not a photograph of a copyrighted work), you will want to get the library to release the image under a free license. This can be a license that requires attribution (like Creative Commons), or another free license. See the description of allowable licensing terms. WP:DCM notes the means of releasing images so that they can be used. Keep in mind that the free license will be universal - we unfortunately cannot accept "free for use on Wikipedia only" images. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I have another question that I am hoping someone can answer. I am currently working on the page of Hannah Atkins and one of the references is displaying a "Cite error." I believe it is reference number 4. If someone would not mind taking a look at that and letting me know how to fix that error, I would appreciate it. Amcdougal (talk) 15:22, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Amcdougal, I've fixed this - the problem was a named reference that had accidentally been given two different names. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

If I am looking to draft another page, how do I make a second ( or multiple) sandbox(es)? I mainly do not want to compromise any of the work that I just finished and submitted for review. Thanks everyone! Amcdougal (talk) 16:01, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * You can create as many sandboxes as you like by creating the page User:Amcdougal/sandboxname, using whatever name you like (eg User:Amcdougal/supersandbox, User:Amcdougal/sandbox2, User:Amcdougal/John Smith). You might want to add the code /sandboxname (replacing with the actual name you're using) to your userpage to help you keep track of multiple sandboxes. You can also create a page directly in draftspace if you prefer, eg Draft:John Doe. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help! Amcdougal (talk) 16:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Would someone mind looking at my infobox code on this page? ---> User:Amcdougal/sandbox/Cindy Ross Something isn't translating correctly. Amcdougal (talk) 17:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Better? Nikkimaria (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Goodness, thank you so much for all of your help! So, when I click on my sandbox, I am taken to Betty Boyd's live page. Is there a way to remove that from my sandbox now that it is a live article? Amcdougal (talk) 16:16, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, just go to your sandbox and remove everything currently in the edit window. (If you are taken to the live article, there should be a link at the top of the page that says "Redirected from..." that you can use to get back). After that you will be able to do whatever you like with the sandbox. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

I am done editing a draft User:Amcdougal/draft/Joe Anna Hibler and I do not see a way to submit it for review anywhere...am I not seeing something? I do apologize for my constant questions! Learning on a curve here. Amcdougal (talk) 17:26, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The "submit" button is part of the template user sandbox, which is automatically included in your first sandbox but not others you might create. You can add to the top of your draft yourself to get that button again. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Submission Woes

 * I am receiving some push back from editors about several of the articles that I have submitted for review. Despite my conflict of interest statement and my careful attention to include reputable sources, my articles are being denied. I have included several independent references from libraries in addition to mainstream media articles. I am doing my best with the limited resources I have. In fact, the first article that I submitted for review - Betty Boyd - had no issues being sent through, yet the pages I have worked on after Betty's are being turned down although they have an equal amount of verifiable resources. My latest attempt with Edmon Low was sent back with the editor questioning his "notability" even though I included references such as newspaper articles with discussion of him being honored or books with entire sections written on his life and work. Forgive me, but I am just a little confused about this push back I am receiving with my work, despite my efforts to make my pages verifiable through reputable resources. Amcdougal (talk) 17:51, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi : you are doing the right thing! Unfortunately, the AFC process holds a much higher standard of notability than most other article creation that happens. In creating those articles: you have done a good job, and as I noted to your supervisor in an email: because you have a fair bit of experience now, I would recommend not trying to submit articles through that process (it handles better brand new users, without the academic support).
 * However, with that recommendation in mind, the comments in the reviews identify a problem that could effect the long-term stickiness of these articles beyond your direct attention: including more outside, public sources in future articles which signals a wider coverage of that particular topic beyond the community of your library (by citing, for instance, the Oklahoma Women's Hall of Fame citations, or newspaper articles). In turn this communicates to our editors, that the topic deemed important enough for academic research, also meets public notability. For example, the Edmon Low article looks like it has only OK State sources (even though the book is a pretty substantive outside chapter, though its hosted/published by OKState), and would benefit greatly from one or two outside articles talking about his impact (from ALA for instance). This issue has very little to do with your conflict of interest statement, and more with the community's response mechanism to the poor quality submissions we typically get, and how the AFC process tries to head those off with too many citations, rather than the least minimal to create notability.
 * Also, when you encounter short statements from editors that you don't entirely understand, its often best to reach out to them on the talk page of an article, and ask for more direct feedback on the specific situation; they may seem like heavy arbitrating hands, but that often has to do with the scale of their work (dealing with dozens of such articles a day and not being trained for constructive feedback), rather than their unwillingness to provide constructive feedback, Sadads (talk) 17:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi ! Thank you for getting back with me and for your help, as always it's very appreciated. I noticed that you moved some of the articles to "live" and wanted to let you know that I am still going through those and adding some "mainstream news" references that I am finding from online archives. I did want to ask, what is the process for sending an article through without going through the AFC submission process? Thank you again! Amcdougal (talk) 15:26, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Try Moving_a_page, and let us know if you have any questions, Sadads (talk) 16:05, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Citation error
Hello everyone! Amcdougal again. On Dana Tiger's page, a citation error is present that I cannot find the solution to. Would someone mind taking a look at it and helping me out? (It is on the second bullet under "Awards") Amcdougal (talk) 17:49, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * User:SusunW already fixed it with this edit, Sadads (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2015 (UTC)