Wikipedia talk:Education program archive/University of South Florida/LAE 6389: Practice Teaching Literature (Spring 2015)

Miscellaneous questions
Scott raises the question if Wikipedia has a policy about linking the same word in one article more than one time. For example, if Surinam is mentioned more than once, do we create a wikipedia link more than once? And Micah raises the question how to link back from the page linked to the article you are editing. For example, if Aphra Behn is linked to Charles II, can we link back Charles II to Behn? LLRungegordon (talk) 18:15, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Re linking multiple times in an article, "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, a link may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." (WP:REPEATLINK.) Re reciprocal linking, it really depends on the context. Based on my quick read of their respective articles, Charles II was significant in the life of Behn, but Behn probably wasn't significant in the life of Charles II (given everything he had going for him as the king of England).  This is often the case where one article subject is a more important figure than the other (Teddy Andreadis links to Carole King but not vice versa, to give a totally arbitrary example).  Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you Calliopejen1. This is very helpful, and I'll make sure the students see this.  I rather figured that for Charles II, but we thought about ways she might be included in an expanded article that, for example, included his network of spies!  LLRungegordon (talk) 00:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I also had some feedback from Adam -- see this link on general editing: WP:Overlinking. LLRungegordon (talk) 13:18, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

New Page Question
I was interested in starting a new page on revenge tragedy. The page Revenge play already exists, and I discovered that the page Revenge tragedy also exists but only serves to redirect people to the revenge play page. Is there a way to eliminate the redirecting and allow for revenge tragedy to exist as its own page (that can link to the revenge play page)? Farrar80 (talk) 15:42, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

The link to revenge tragedy above also links to revenge play (I think because of the redirection). I only discovered this (that is, the one links to the other) when realizing I wasn't able to start a page called Revenge tragedy because it was already taken (as a redirection page). Farrar80 (talk) 15:46, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi . The redirect from revenge tragedy was created in 2004. If you have found in your research that the two terms represent distinct subjects, then you can undo the redirect yourself and create a new article. You don't need any special permission to do so and the article need not be as long and detailed as the article on revenge play. I'm sorry that the presentation of the redirect is a little tricky (if you don't catch the tiny blue note at the top of the page you'll miss it).


 * I would recommend first writing a small section in the revenge play articles talking about revenge tragedies. That will allow you to better differentiate the two on the revenge play article (including removing the old claims in the article using the two terms interchangeably) before starting the new article. If you need any help on either article please let me know here or on my talk page. Thanks! Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The categorization is the problem since revenge play is an unusual way to refer to this particular thing. But no one has worked on the revenge play article since 2009, and revenge tragedy is going to be the more common keyword that people use to search (and we can't change the titles of existing articles). I have started to create the article in my sandbox, so if you are able to visit it and let me know if I'm doing what I should be doing, that would be fantastic. I was considering linking to revenge play and doing vice versa since they are related, but if you think this is not advisable, please let me know. Thank you for all your help, Adam! Farrar80 (talk) 03:40, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * You can move the page if you feel revenge tragedy is the more common term. I would recommend proposing the move on the talk page using Requested move, giving your reasoning (usually what works is showing that sources are more likely to use "revenge tragedy" vs "revenge play"). P.S. I moved your comment into this section, I hope that's ok. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:46, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

My Only Peer Reviewer
FYI: my only peer reviewer for my additions to the Tomboy article is someone who is not even in this class. Also, when I introduced myself on the Tomboy talk page, I received a reply that would be worth talking about in class on Thursday. However, I did invite an editor from the HDM page (who has revised my work and posted on my talk page) to review what I write about in my sandbox, so I'll let you know if I get feedback from him. Beachmirage (talk) 04:27, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi . Your reviewer (Flyer22) may be a bit prickly toward students but I think the advice is valuable. For more trafficked articles (like Tomboy), you may well get a response from a volunteer editor on your suggested improvements before one of your classmates--sometimes wikipedia is slow, other times it is very fast. If you have any questions about their review (or on any other subjects) please feel free to ask me on my talk page or here. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)