Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Armillaria gallica/archive1

Comments from Ucucha
Moved from main review page - Ucucha 03:54, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Comments from Ucucha
 * Is the poor Finn called Kohonen, Korhonen, or Kothonen? (fixed spelling)
 * Isn't Helga Marxmueller a she? (yup)
 * The taxonomy section is confusing, which is probably not surprising given the history  of the species, but I think it's worse than it should be. Wouldn't it  be better to move it all in chronological order? Also, I don't see where  Romagnesi used the name gallica,  or how Armillariella  bulbosa can be the basionym for  Armillaria  gallica.
 * I've done some more research, and written this section in a way that I hope better  explains the confusing taxonomy. What do you think? Sasata (talk) 05:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Much better now. Ucucha 13:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Distribution: you don't mention China among the places where it has been collected.  Also, what exactly is the Asian subpopulation (as opposed to the Chinese  one)? Does it occur in Iran and Japan? (mentioned China in distribution; clarified a  little about subpopulations, but unfortunately can only read the  abstract -  source is in Chinese)
 * Lots of Web of Science hits for this one:
 * doi:10.1038/nrmicro2249 has the interesting speculation that there may be stem cell-like nuclei. (good one, added)
 * doi:10.1051/forest/2009046 has some ecology from Spain. (added)
 * doi:10.1016/j.foreco.2009.07.016 has ecology from Massachusetts. (added)
 * doi:10.1016/j.fgb.2009.04.005 has some biomechanics. (another good one, but I think is best left for the Armillaria and Rhizomorph articles.
 * doi:10.1111/j.1439-0329.2008.00578.x, ecology from Serbia. (added)
 * http://www.fungaldiversity.org/fdp/sfdp/FD36-2.pdf, another way to tell them apart (pectic isozymes). (leaving this one  for the genus article)
 * Title: Concerning ARMILLARIAAuthor(s):  Vignot, BrigitteSource:  Bulletin de la Societe Linneenne de Bordeaux   Volume: 37   Issue: 1    Pages: 61-66    Published: 2009 -  more taxonomy? No abstract that I could find.
 * I can't find it either. Sasata (talk) 17:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is in our library; I can probably have a look tomorrow. Ucucha 18:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I got it; nothing interesting, a key to Armillaria  species and a description. You can cite it for A. gallica occurring in the Gironde if you badly  want to. The Linnean Society of Bordeaux is a nice group though. Ucucha 02:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Investigation of Armillaria biological species in Heihe of Heilongjiang  Province.Author(s): Li  MingWen; Yang GuoTing; Song YuShuang, et al.Source:  Journal of Northeast Forestry University   Volume: 37   Issue: 3    Pages: 93-94    Published: 2009
 * Paper's in Chinese, and the abstract doesn't tell me anything the article doesn't  already say now (i.e., that the species is in China). Sasata (talk) 05:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * doi:10.1094/PHYTO-99-6-0651 - infects  blueberry in Italy
 * Italian blueberries already mentioned, but I added this more recent source. Sasata (talk) 17:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * And that's 2010 and 2009 only. I guess most of these are ecological studies that  won't add much to what is already there, but there seem to be at least  some with facts that aren't in the article yet. Ucucha 15:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments Ucucha, I'll work on these today. It's true there are lot  of studies about this fungus, so I didn't try to include them all. But I  will look again at the ones you've mentioned and see if there's any  worthy additions to be made. Sasata  (talk) 15:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes—I'm not all too sure myself whether it's necessary to mention that it is also common in random  places like Serbia and Massachusetts, and I'm sure we'll be able to find  more similar studies. This is where secondary sources come in handy:  they summarize these things for us. Ucucha 18:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree in general about secondary sources, but in this case, these newer  interesting/relevant facts have not yet been mentioned in reviews. The  added locations aren't really random: the Massachusetts mention is  placed in a paragraph that focuses largely on US distribution, so it is  not out of place, while the Serbian mention seems to fit in well with  the surrounding discussion about elevation distribution limits in  Europe. Sasata (talk) 05:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, you've placed them well in context. I meant "random" as in: it could as well  be Maine or Bulgaria where the paper is from. I'll have another look  later today to find if there is more good stuff. Ucucha 13:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Going on:
 * Title: MOLECULAR PHYLOGENY OF NORTHERN-HEMISPHERE SPECIES OF ARMILLARIA
 * Author(s): ANDERSON, JB; STASOVSKI, E
 * Source: MYCOLOGIA  Volume: 84   Issue: 4    Pages: 505-516    Published: JUL-AUG  1992


 * Now mentioned. Sasata (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Observations on the in vitro development of Armillaria carpophores
 * Author(s): Intini, Marcello G.
 * Source: Mycologist  Volume: 7   Issue: 1    Pages: 18-24    Published:  1993


 * This one I can't get unfortunately, but from the looks of the title it seems it's destined for the genus article  anyway. Sasata (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Quantification of fungal growth: models, experiments, and observations.
 * Author(s): Lamour, A.
 * Source: Quantification of fungal growth: models, experiments, and observations   Pages: viii


 * This one's a graduate thesis, and is covered by the publication below. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Network formation by rhizomorphs of Armillaria lutea in natural soil:  their description and ecological significance
 * Author(s): Lamour, A; Termorshuizen, AJ; Volker, D, et al.
 * Source: FEMS MICROBIOLOGY ECOLOGY   Volume: 62   Issue: 2   Pages: 222-232    Published:  2007


 * Definitely worth a mention for the graph theory alone. Sasata  (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: BACTERIA FROM SOILS OF THE BOREAL MIXED WOOD FOREST AND THEIR EFFECT ON  THE GROWTH OF ARMILLARIA
 * Author(s): DUMAS M T
 * Conference Information: ANNUAL MEETING OF THE CANADIAN PHYTOPATHOLOGICAL SOCIETY,  BANFF, ALBERTA, CANADA, JUNE 1991. CAN J PLANT PATHOL.
 * Source: Canadian Journal of Plant Pathology   Volume: 13   Issue: 3   Pages:  275   Published:  1991


 * I typically avoid using conference abstracts when there's so much other material to  choose from. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: THE INFLUENCE OF INDUSTRIAL DUST ON THE HEAVY METAL CONTENT OF FUNGI
 * Author(s): TURNAU K; KOZLOWSKA H
 * Source: Zeszyty Naukowe Uniwersytetu Jagiellonskiego Prace Botaniczne   Issue: 22   Pages: 135-144    Published:  1991


 * Can't get it. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Establishment of in vitro production system of the Gastrodia elata  immature tubers followed by symbiotic seed germination
 * Author(s): Park, Eung Jun; Ahn, Jin Kwin; Lee, Wi Young, et al.
 * Conference Information: Joint Annual Meeting of the American-Society-of-Plant-Biologists/Sociedad-Mexicana-de-Bioquimica,  Date: June 26 -July  01, 2008 Merida, MEXICO
 * Source: Plant Biology (Rockville)  Volume:  2008   Pages: 172-173    Published: 2008


 * Conference. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Armillaria diversity in two Michigan Montmorency tart cherry orchards
 * Author(s): Ellis, ML; Proffer, TJ; Sundin, GW, et al.
 * Source: PHYTOPATHOLOGY   Volume: 98   Issue: 6   Pages: S202-S202    Published:  2008


 * Conference. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Synthetic dyes decolourisation by white-rot fungi: Development of original  microtitre plate method and screening
 * Author(s): Lucas, M; Mertens, V; Corbisier, AM, et al.
 * Source: ENZYME AND MICROBIAL TECHNOLOGY   Volume: 42   Issue: 2   Pages: 97-106    Published:  2008


 * This is largely a methods paper. Our funguses synthetic dye decolorization  ability wasn't notable. Sasata  (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Cross breeding of Armillaria gallica strains.
 * Author(s): Zhao Jun; Zhao Jie; Qin GuoFu
 * Source: Acta Edulis Fungi  Volume: 14    Issue: 4   Pages: 31-35   Published:  2007


 * Ni hao ma? They mated fungi to make "vigorous hybrids" and "highly-branched  monoaxial rhizomorphs". If I could read Chinese, I might be able to find  out why that was important. Sasata  (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Demonstrating compatibility?
 * True. I guess that some of the Chinese A. gallica strains are compatible with non-Chinese strains, some aren't, suggesting that it might be necessary to split into more  species. But this is mentioned already using the other Chinese  distribution paper as a source. Sasata  (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Geographic distribution survey of Armillaria biological species in Heilongjiang  Province.
 * Author(s): Sun LiFu; Zhang YanHua; Yang GuoTing, et al.
 * Source: Mycosystema  Volume: 26   Issue:  1   Pages: 59-67    Published:  2007


 * Common in China. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * As everywhere, it seems. Ucucha 01:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Title: Abundance of Armillaria within old-growth eastern hemlock stands in South-Central  Pennsylvania.
 * Author(s): Fromm, M. S.; Davis, D. D.
 * Conference Information: 15th Central Hardwood Forest Conference, Knoxville,  Tennessee, USA, 27 February-1 March 2006.
 * Source: General Technical Report - Southern Research Station, USDA Forest Service   Issue: SRS-101   Pages: 169-175    Published:  2007


 * Conference. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: A study on intersterility groups of Armillaria in China
 * Author(s): Qin, GF; Zhao, J; Korhonen, K
 * Source: MYCOLOGIA  Volume: 99   Issue: 3    Pages: 430-441    Published: MAY-JUN  2007


 * Good one. Added, and will come back to this one in more detail when I work on the  genus article. Sasata (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Mathematical modelling of mycelia: a question of scale
 * Author(s): Davidson, Fordyce A.
 * Source: Fungal Biology Reviews  Volume:  21   Issue: Part 1   Pages: 30-41   Published: FEB 2007
 * Article Number: 10.1016/j.fbr.2007.02.005 :*(More recent source on something  already covered.)


 * Our fungus only gets a brief mention about something that's already well-developed in the article. Sasata (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Role of Armillaria species on tree dying in Turkey oak and Hungarian oak  forest in Lipovica.
 * Author(s): Keca, N.; Karadzic, D.
 * Source: Glasnik Sumarskog Fakulteta, Univerzitet u Beogradu   Issue: 94   Pages:  151-158    Published:  2006


 * Nothing new. Sasata (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Role of an opportunistic pathogen in the decline of stressed oak trees
 * Author(s): Marcais, B; Breda, N
 * Source: JOURNAL OF ECOLOGY  Volume: 94    Issue: 6   Pages: 1214-1223   Published: NOV 2006


 * Now mentioned. Sasata (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Characterization of North American Armillaria species: genetic  relationships determined by ribosomal DNA sequences and AFLP markers
 * Author(s): Kim, MS; Klopfenstein, NB; Hanna, JW, et al.
 * Source: FOREST PATHOLOGY   Volume: 36   Issue: 3   Pages: 145-164   Published:  JUN 2006
 * Phylogenetic relations aren't covered yet.
 * Sloppy omission by me. Perhaps this FAC is a breaching experiment to see if you  guys will let an organism article get promoted without mentioning  phylogeny? :) Sasata (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Aspects  of European beech decline in Romania in 2001-2004.
 * Author(s): Chira, D.; Danescu, F.; Geambasu, N., et al.
 * Source: Analele Institutul de Cercetari si Amenajari Silvice    Volume: 48   Pages: 115-134    Published:   2005


 * Nothing new. Sasata (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Nonspecific  elicitation of defense reaction in suspension tobacco cells  by  elicitors from Armillaria
 * Author(s): Vitecek, J; Kasparovsky, T; Mikesova, M, et al.
 * Source: FOLIA MICROBIOLOGICA   Volume:  50   Issue: 2    Pages: 128-132   Published:  2005


 * Foreign language; abstract has nothing new. Sasata  (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Characteristics  of Armillaria species development and their growth at  different  temperatures.
 * Author(s): Keca, N.
 * Source: Glasnik  Sumarskog Fakulteta, Univerzitet u Beogradu   Issue: 91    Pages: 149-162     Published:  2005


 * Esoteric, growth in culture. Sasata (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Molecular-based  identification and phylogeny of Armillaria species from Serbia and  Montenegro
 * Author(s): Keca, N; Bodles, WJA; Woodward, S, et al.
 * Source: FOREST PATHOLOGY  Volume: 36    Issue: 1   Pages: 41-57   Published: FEB 2006


 * Keca (2009) already mentions Serbian distribution. Sasata  (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Effect  of nutrients and temperature on the growth of Armillaria mellea   and other fungi.
 * Author(s): Rind, B.; Losel, D. M.
 * Source: Indus  Journal of Biological Sciences   Volume: 2    Issue: 3   Pages: 326-331    Published:   2005


 * Esoteric (in vitro growth) & foreign language. Sasata (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Identification  of Armillaria isolates from Bhutan based on DNA sequence  comparisons
 * Author(s): Coetzee, MPA; Wingfield, BD; Kirisits, T, et al.
 * Source: PLANT PATHOLOGY   Volume: 54    Issue: 1    Pages: 36-45   Published: FEB 2005

(Down to 2005.) Ucucha 19:07, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * An unnamed biological species found similar to A. gallica;  I'll wait for the next publication. Sasata  (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yikes! No rest for the weary (or was that wicked?). I'm sure I've looked at most of  these before, but I will check again. Luckily, I enjoy research :) Sasata (talk) 19:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's bad. That's what you get for writing on a fairly well-known species, I  am afraid. I did see some things that aren't in the article yet, like  phylogenetics and occurrence in Bhutan. Ucucha 20:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)