Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Homer Davenport/archive1

Comments from Cirt

 * Threaded discussion about pull-quotes moved to talk page by Cirt. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


 * My only minor quibble is the pull-quote-box in section 1897–1901, I'd suggest removing it, and/or merging it into the main article text, and/or paraphrasing it and trimming the quote part out altogether. I only mention this as I've received criticism myself for using pull-quotes before, and so I stopped doing that -- and I note that in this particular instance it's not already in the article text, as well. Superb job, overall. Certainly merits the star. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:46, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support! I've recently had two GANs and a FAC that passed with sourced quoteboxes (the FA had at least three).  I don't think one quotebox is excessive, and putting it in the text is kind of klunky in that context.  I'd be glad to defend quoteboxes for your articles in the future!  LOL!  --MTBW
 * If it's in a quote box at the least it should also be in the text. Quote boxes should be used to highlight info already in text, not introduce new ideas. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Um, I beg to differ, can you point to MOS for that? (I'm serious, Nikkimaria passed the FAC that has three quoteboxes and she's the most anal-retentive FAC reviewer I know...)  Montanabw (talk) 00:07, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * There's this diff from User:Orangemike, "pull quotes belong in advertisements, not encyclopedia articles". Again, not my personal opinion, but apparently that of User:Orangemike. Cheers, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:09, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It just seems obvious to me that pull-quotes don't make for an encyclopedic style; but I don't have a WP:MOS citation to back up that judgment. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  00:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for stopping by, Orangemike. And the idea is, this isn't just the opinion of Orangemike, but if he's voicing it, it's likely shared by others as well. That's one of the reasons I've stopped using the pull-quotes altogether, myself. And why it makes sense to not use them here. Cheers, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:44, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I suppose it's a question of whether the quotebox template is being used for pull quotes (from the article) or as a sidebar (to add additional material to an article - which is how I use them). Probably more a graphic design issue than anything. If not in MOS, then it is probably just a question of editor discretion and not a huge deal either way.  But I like them as a way to add a bit of flavor and character to a story, capturing the essence of a thing to give the reader a flavor for the real thing.  See, e.g. the first time I started using them, for the bio of Sheila Varian.  Not a moral issue either way.  Hugs all!  Montanabw (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Understood, and no worries! Good luck with the rest of the FAC, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:40, 10 November 2013 (UTC)