Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Yogo sapphire/archive1

Addressed comments by Crisco 1492

 * Yogo sapphires are a variety of corundum found only in Yogo Gulch, in central Montana in the Little Belt Mountains in Judith Basin County, Montana, on land once inhabited by the Piegan Blackfeet people." - Why not something like "Yogo sapphires are a variety of corundum found only in Yogo Gulch, part of the Little Belt Mountains in Judith Basin County, Central Montana, on land once inhabited by the Piegan Blackfeet people." Of course, I question whether the mention of the Blackfeet is necessary in the first sentence.
 * Done. We need to leave the Blackfeet in because it's a critical part of the Yogo lore. Pumpkin Sky   talk  03:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, agreed, Native heritage of the area also matters in Montana history articles in general.  Montanabw (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it Yogo Creek or Yogo Gulch or Yogo Dike?
 * The Yogo Dike is the linear rock unit that crosses the Yogo Creek (at near a right angle) where the stream channel is narrow and gulch-like. The USGS 7.5 topo maps show it as Yogo Creek. Voynick and other refs refer to both Yogo Creek and Yogo Gulch and looking at the topo maps the area where the dike crosses Yogo Creek is narrow and more like a gulch - the narrower gulch stream channel extends from the Tollgate just north of the dike and continues "gulch like" on south to the Middle Fork of the Judith. Both are used by refs and my interpretation is the gulch is the channel in and south of the mine area. A good map of the area is needed. Vsmith (talk) 02:26, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * There are two PD maps from 1900 in the Yogo commons cat (see link in article's external links section). I've asked several people to make one but no one has come through. There are better ones in the UBC and Voynick refs but they are probably copyrighted. Pumpkin Sky  talk  11:22, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, all of the above, gems from the dike wound up in the creek, which basically flows down the gulch. FYI, "gulch" is a Montana term (maybe elsewhere too) for what others might call an arroyo or a little eroded canyon. And we'd say it's a "crick", not a creek, if you asked us to say it out loud!  LOL! Montanabw (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Utica - Link?
 * Utica, Montana -- seems we need an article, VSmith
 * I noticed that long ago but there's virtually nothing in a reliable source. I might be able to throw together 2 sentences. Pumpkin Sky   talk  03:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Utica, Montana now created and linked. Will see how much I can find. Pumpkin Sky   talk  21:04, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * "The meaning of the word "Yogo" had been lost as early as 1878 when placer gold was found in Yogo Creek, and hence its meaning is uncertain." - Perhaps "The meaning of the word "Yogo" had already been lost by 1878, when placer gold was found in Yogo Creek. As such, its meaning is uncertain." — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Pumpkin Sky  talk  03:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * MInor additional copyedit. Given the evidence points to "no clue whatsoever, actually," even saying "already" is dubious. ;-)   Montanabw (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * "striking at azimuth of 255°." - at an azimuth?
 * Done. Pumpkin Sky  talk  03:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * "how many ounces of rough sapphires per ton it contained" - Present or past tense better here?
 * Made it 's' Pumpkin Sky   talk  03:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Check for overlinking and terms linked on the second or third appearance. I've fixed several.
 * K, plan on continuing tomorrow. Reading all these foreign terms made my head spin. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Copyedited another two sections. Plan on tackling history tomorrow. Barring any really jarring bits of prose, I'm leaning support. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * " the small numbers of early prospectors were driven off by local Native Americans" - By the Blackfeet or?
 * Probably, but just says "Native Amerians", could have been Crow or Sioux too.
 * "for an army general" - Which?
 * Not one source I've seen says his name, just calls him an army general.
 * Charles Gadsden of Berkhamsted - Should probably have a county.
 * Done.
 * "rough sapphires are worth much more than gold." - "rough sapphires were and continue to be worth much more than gold."
 * Done.
 * "gems valued at $25 million" - In modern currency or 1920s?
 * 1929, changed.
 * "Low-grade sapphire rough was found in the Eastern Flats Dike, a parallel dike some 500 feet northeast of the main dike." - Rough or roughs?
 * rough was, roughs were, here rough.
 * K, that's it from me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:29, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Good eye, thanks. Pumpkin Sky   talk  23:52, 11 June 2012 (UTC)