Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Planet/archive1

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 * 1) Double sharp 31.1%
 * 2) XOR'easter 12.8%
 * 3) Serendipodous 11.9%

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 * 1) Serendipodous · 653 (30.3%)
 * 2) Double sharp · 274 (12.7%)
 * 3) Nergaal · 266 (12.4%)

Stats excerpted as of 21 November 2022 Sandy Georgia (Talk)  21:02, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

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FASA nomination Double sharp
I nominate for a Featured article save award for improvements to Planet during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  21:02, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Discussion Double sharp

 * 1) Support: thank you for helping Planet retain its featured status; you can proudly display the bronze star associated with the article in your user space.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  21:09, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) Support Hog Farm Talk 21:15, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 3) Support – ♠Vamí  _IV†♠  07:46, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

FASA nomination XOR'easter
I nominate for a Featured article save award for improvements to Planet during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  21:02, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Discussion XOR'easter

 * 1) Support: thank you for helping Planet retain its featured status; you can proudly display the bronze star associated with the article in your user space.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  21:09, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) Support Hog Farm Talk 21:15, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 3) Support – ♠Vamí  _IV†♠  07:46, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

FASA nomination Serendipodous
I nominate for a Featured article save award for improvements to Planet during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  21:02, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Discussion Serendipodous

 * 1) Support: thank you for helping Planet retain its featured status; you can proudly display the bronze star associated with the article in your user space.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  21:09, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) Oppose on technical grounds.  As of the time of this comment, Serendipodous has made one edit to this article since 2022.  They've been helping out at other space FARs, but weren't really involved here. Hog Farm Talk 21:15, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed that ... it's been a bit much to do all the FASA noms myself :( As Serendipodous was an original editor of the article, pre-FAC, they would probably be ineligible anyway; my mistake.  Apologies all round, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  21:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

HF
This one is looking much better than it did when the FAR started but I think there's still some more work to do. Hog Farm Talk 03:31, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "super-Earths like Gliese 581c that have masses in between that of Earth and Neptune" - super-earth size doesn't seem to be defined in the body?
 * It is under "Exoplanets". Double sharp (talk) 04:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * More stuff mentioned only in the lead, such as 51 pegasi b, gliese 581c,
 * 51 Pegasi b was already under "Exoplanets", but for some reason never named. Should be fixed. I added a bit about Gliese 581c to this section, though it is only really notable for what people originally thought about it (we now suspect it's too hot to be habitable, which is what got it all the attention in the first place, and with that mass it is probably more gassy than rocky). Double sharp (talk) 05:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "When four satellites of Jupiter and five of Saturn were discovered in the 17th century, they were thought of as "satellite planets" or "secondary planets" orbiting the primary planets, though in the following decades they would come to be called simply "satellites" for short, and it is not always clear whether they were still considered to be planets. The last satellites to be explicitly called "planets" in their discovery reports were Uranus' Titania and Oberon in 1787, though references to "secondary planets" can be found for another century" - the sourcing in this whole paragraph needs overhauled. Citing some of the claims in here to 1787 and 1868 works is for all effective purposes original research.  I've added a couple tags for the worst bits.
 * This paper gives a historical overview; I'll summarise and rewrite this paragraph when I'm not on my phone. Also it mostly addresses the next two points (yes, "satellite" often just means satellites of planets). Double sharp (talk) 04:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Should be ✅ now. Double sharp (talk) 06:43, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "The last satellites to be explicitly called "planets" in their discovery reports were Uranus' Titania and Oberon in 1787" - but then we're calling asteroids planets upon discovery in the next paragraph. Unless the prior source is instead trying to refer to only satellites orbiting other planets
 * ✅ Double sharp (talk) 06:43, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * " Planetary geologists may include the nineteen known planetary-mass moons as "satellite planets", including Earth's Moon, like the early modern astronomers" - can't find the 19 figure in the source, and this is a bit strong phrasing given that the source attributes this statement only to Alan Stern, making it unclear that this is actually a widely-held view
 * Source 3 already addresses this, so cited it again here. Double sharp (talk) 04:21, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The entire planetary-mass objects section is uncited Hog Farm Talk 03:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Rewritten. Double sharp (talk) 06:56, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "originally specifically from fairy mythology, befitting Uranus as god of the sky and air, but that ended with the naming of Miranda" - not finding the specific claim about fairy mythology in the source
 * Fairy mythology was specifically mentioned by Lassell in 1852 (who discovered some of the moons and may have named them). Admittedly not the connexion with Uranus as god of the sky and air, so as reasonable as that is, if I can't find anyone saying that I'll have to take that bit out. Double sharp (talk) 04:27, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Double sharp (talk) 05:24, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "In 2004, a team of astronomers in Hawaii observing the star HD 179949 detected a bright spot on its surface, apparently created by the magnetosphere of an orbiting hot Jupiter" - it seems odd to me that one of the sources for this 2004 event is from 2003
 * Corrected, it was in 2003. :) Double sharp (talk) 06:44, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * "Ronan, Colin. "Astronomy Before the Telescope". Astronomy in China, Korea and Japan (Walker ed.). pp. 264–265." - publisher needed
 * Added the publisher. Double sharp (talk) 07:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)