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 * this is still open. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  14:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

FASA nomination North8000
I nominate for a Featured article save award for improvements to USS Missouri (BB-63) during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Hog Farm Talk 02:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion North8000

 * 1) Support Hog Farm Talk 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 2) Support  Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  03:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 3) Support, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  03:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 4) Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 5) Support – ♠Vamí _IV†♠  12:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Sturmvogel 66
I nominate for a Featured article save award for improvements to USS Missouri (BB-63) during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. Hog Farm Talk 02:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion Sturmvogel 66

 * 1) Support Hog Farm Talk 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 2) Support  Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  03:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 3) Support, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  03:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 4) Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 5) Support – ♠Vamí _IV†♠  12:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

HF

 * "and was the third ship of the United States Navy to be named after the U.S. state of Missouri." - this appears to be accurate but isn't sourced anywhere
 * Should the grounding incident be mentioned in the lead since it's significant enough to have its own article?
 * Infobox specifies that the anti-aircraft armament was Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, but the body isn't that specific
 * The figures for deck and barbette armor don't seem to match between the main body and the infobox?
 * The order date from the infobox should be mentioned in the main body
 * " News media proclaimed her a symbol of U.S. interest in preserving both nations' independence" - DANFS states that the two nations are Greece and Turkey, but it's not clear from the article that Turkey is intended as one.
 * Some of the 1984 refit details from the infobox don't seem to be cited/mentioned in the body
 * There's a CN spot in the Gulf War section
 * "Those familiar with the incident are skeptical of this account, however, as Jarrett was reportedly over 2 mi (3.2 km) away at the time and the characteristics of chaff are such that a Phalanx would not normally regard it as a threat and engage it." - I can't find much of this other than the distance between the two vessels in the linked source, which is a slightly-redacted official accident report. I'm considered that original research may have snuck in
 * " after serving a total of 17 years of active service" - body says 16 years
 * CN spot in the museum ship section
 * I don't think three of the web sources are good enough quality for FA - Roadside America, A Life Aloft, and Seaforces

This looks doable, although I'm afraid I don't have much good sourcing for this one - Hog Farm Talk 23:42, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Using books that I just bought and read, I can fix everything pre-1995.....of course everyone else is welcome to beat me to it. North8000 (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Worksheet for Hog Farm's list

 * "and was the third ship of the United States Navy to be named after the U.S. state of Missouri." - this appears to be accurate but isn't sourced anywhere
 * Resolved. Copied the statement to the body. Found and added a reference there.  North8000 (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Should the grounding incident be mentioned in the lead since it's significant enough to have its own article?
 * Either way, right now I'm building the grounding coverage a bit and getting it cited to Butler. I haven't looked at the article history but suspect that the reason it has a separate article is because there is such a large amount of interesting material and it needs a lot of space to really cover it. I'm near-neutral on putting it in the lead.  North8000 (talk) 10:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. I put a sentence on it in the lead.North8000 (talk) 13:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Infobox specifies that the anti-aircraft armament was Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, but the body isn't that specific
 * Resolved. I don't see anything that specific in the info box or in the article.   Maybe someone took it out. North8000 (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The figures for deck and barbette armor don't seem to match between the main body and the infobox?
 * Done.  Figured out, reconciled and sourced.North8000 (talk) 02:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The order date from the infobox should be mentioned in the main body
 * Done. North8000 (talk) 13:29, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * " News media proclaimed her a symbol of U.S. interest in preserving both nations' independence" - DANFS states that the two nations are Greece and Turkey, but it's not clear from the article that Turkey is intended as one.
 * Fixed.  Specified both per source North8000 (talk) 02:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Some of the 1984 refit details from the infobox don't seem to be cited/mentioned in the body
 * Fixed. I added them to the body and cited/reference them
 * There's a CN spot in the Gulf War section
 * Done. Tweaked it to make it cite-able, and cited it. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 02:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * "Those familiar with the incident are skeptical of this account, however, as Jarrett was reportedly over 2 mi (3.2 km) away at the time and the characteristics of chaff are such that a Phalanx would not normally regard it as a threat and engage it." - I can't find much of this other than the distance between the two vessels in the linked source, which is a slightly-redacted official accident report. I'm considered that original research may have snuck in
 * Fixed.  I pared some non-verifiable material (which was also superfluous) and added extra cites on what remains. Also fixed one minor error. (changed shrapnel to debris) <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 19:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * " after serving a total of 17 years of active service" - body says 16 years
 * Fixed Took them both out. Vague summary that was not in the source nor in any source that I could find.<b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 01:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * CN spot in the museum ship section
 * Resolved. (by others) <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 02:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

<b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 00:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think three of the web sources are good enough quality for FA
 * Roadside America
 * Fixed. Removed source and material dependent on it what was of low importance and relevance.<b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 22:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * A Life Aloft (3 uses)
 * Replaced with a better ref at the first of its three uses. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Replaced with a better ref at the second of its three uses. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 13:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Removed the 3rd and the material dependent on it <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 13:51, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Seaforces
 * Fixed in the same fix noted a couple lines up on 6/26/22. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 00:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I just fixed the last item.<b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2022 (UTC)