Wikipedia talk:Files for deletion/2006 May 27

Islamic Barnstar Award
I just created this image to help recognize any editor who has made exceptional contributions to Islam-related articles. --JuanMuslim 1m 07:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Barnstars are wikipedian, and must not have a religion. I've nominated this image for deletion.Timothy Usher 07:40, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Barnstars are entirely unofficial, and therefore their form is wholly up to the editors who chose to give them out. I have seen plenty of personal barnstar-type awards which are entirely (and entirely appropriately) POV. &#0151; JEREMY 07:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: I know individuals like User:Cyde have been making strenous efforts to "neutralize" userboxes and also to subst them (with T2 reasoning). Part of the reason these individuals are doing this is that they want to inhibit the ability of editors to form cabals with such userboxes. I suspect that these same individuals will soon argue for the removal of this type of barnstar when to their way of thinking it is possible to use it for doing the same type of thing. Netscott 08:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

This is worse than partisan userboxes, as it's coordinated rather than self-placed. This is exactly what's wrong with this Barnstar, and this Guild. Wikipedia's not supposed to be "Muslim" or "Islamic," and editors aren't supposed to try to make it so. Rather, we're to be a reputable scholarly source. It's inappropriate, off-topic and counterproductive to congratulate editors for being "Islamic."Timothy Usher 08:34, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Partisan awards naturally serve to divide rather than unite, and this barnstar is obviously counter-productive in building bridges among editors with different beliefs. Pecher Talk 09:03, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * This barnstar is no different to the many devoted to specific categories. It isn't an award for "being a good Muslim" or even "being a good Muslim editor"; it's "to help recognize any editor who has made exceptional contributions to Islam-related articles". (Note the "any editor" part). Personally, I think barnstars are naff as hell &mdash; but I recognise that others find them useful, and it's not like we're talking "This editor thinks Trinitarian Christology is a Surrealist Joke" userboxen or something. &#0151; JEREMY 09:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * You may vote to keep or delete the image at Images_and_media_for_deletion/2006_May_27. --JuanMuslim 1m 09:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I will copy our discussion to Wikipedia talk:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2006_May_27, so that others will get an accurate idea about our current discussion. --JuanMuslim 1m 09:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)