Wikipedia talk:General disclaimer/Archive 3

reliable versions
The peer review section cautions well against the changeability of articles, but maybe we should point out a way to view the article as it was when FA or other status was last reviewed, as in the CD for schools highlighted at the top of this talk-page and release versions as well ? LeeVJ (talk) 23:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Minor Grammar Error
"...Our active community of editors uses tools such..." should be changed to "...Our active community of editors use tools such..." (simply removing the s). Thanks, Eric-Wester (talk) 02:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * That depends on the English dialect. I don't care either way though. If I change it, someone will eventually complain that it should be singular, and the cycle will go on and on. Graham 87 03:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Location of servers
editprotected Since, I think, the physical location of WM's servers also relocated can someone change it from Florida to California? A change is also needed on Content disclaimer. Thanks. -- Menti  sock  12:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No, the servers haven't moved; only the offices have moved. The Wikimedia Foundation projects were down for eleven hours when the main servers were moved across the street, so I'd hate to think how long the downtime would be if those servers were moved across the U.S. Graham 87 15:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Confused by syntax
I'm usually pretty good with parsing legalese, but I'm not sure the first sentence in the section "No contract; limited license" is grammatical. It would make sense if there were a period after "sister projects", and I don't know how to relate "subject to your claims against them directly" with what comes before. Is "subject to..." a complement of "agreement or contract"? Is it an inadvertently blended sentence? It's not that I want it explained, I'm just trying to alert to what I think could possibly be a defect. -- Unconventional (talk) 04:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

edit protected
I just wanted to mention that I am documented as the 33rd SAC president for David and Mary Thomson. Unfortunately my name has been spelled incorrectly (which has been an ongoing mishap my entire life!). It has been written as Jennie Allen, when it is actually Jeannie Allen. If this could be corrected, I would be forever grateful. If you need to contact me, I can be reached at or my email address: .

Sincerely, Jeannie Allen-Carveth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.39.23.239 (talk) 00:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Jeannie, thanks for informing us about the error. I've corrected the page for you. A more appropriate place for this question, where you would have received a faster response, is Wikipedia's help desk. Regards, Graham 87 08:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Interwiki
editprotected Can you please add the Maltese interwiki for this page: mt:Wikipedija:Ċaħda ġenerali. Thanks. Chrisportelli (talk) 07:49, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. Thanks, Graham 87 23:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

George Went Hensley information on Sebring Florida wensite
≤{ – }I am Mayor George Leslie Hensley Jr. of Sebring FL. You have linked me to George WENT Hensley of Virginia and North Carolina on the City if Sebring FL. website. I have no knowledge of this person and I am not a snake handler and never have been. This person is not a relative of mine. Please remove the reference of George Went Hensley from the City of Sebring website as this is embarassing for me. Thanks, George Leslie Hensley Jr. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.68.8.163 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you're talking about. no articles about Florida link to George Went Hensley. If you're talking about the George Hensley redirect, then I can't do anything about that. A better place to ask this would be the help desk. Graham 87 09:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

A little thing to do
Please add hi:विकिपीडिया:साधारण अस्वीकरण to the list of interwikis. Thank You! -- Priyanka (talk) 12:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. Graham 87 05:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

link to Non-Wikipedia disclaimers?
Would it be possible to mention and link to Non-Wikipedia disclaimers so as to avoid the misunderstanding mentioned on said page? --Cybercobra (talk) 05:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't think of a good place to put it. A see also section for one item seems clunky. Graham 87 12:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How about at the end of the 2nd paragraph? Something like: "Note that most other encyclopedias also have similar disclaimers." --Cybercobra (talk) 17:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I've put it there; I added mention of reference works to the senteence because they're also mentioned in the non-Wikipedia disclaimers page. Graham 87 08:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Grazi. --Cybercobra (talk) 09:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Alternatives to Censorship?
From my user subpage: I was thinking about forcing users to sign in in order to view the content (Apparently Youtube has recently adopted this practice) or creating other obstacles to the content. Also, in response to WP:DISCLAIM, I propose that the disclaimer link be moved to somewhere around the top of the page. per Greenprint's statement in the "More visibility" section of an archive of the talk page of Wikipedia's General Disclaimer, "I suggest to put the disclaimer link in the main menu. Currently the link is at the bottom and very difficult to find considering the disclaimer importance," I propose moving the disclaimer link to the "interaction" box at the left side of the page. This will make it more prominent and increase the chances of users, especially noobs, knowing the existence of such disclaimers. No one is going to, after seeing an obscene article, all of a sudden note the link to the disclaimer at the bottom of the page. Norsehorse89 (talk) 04:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah... Unfortunately, I won't be surprised if my first proposition is not adopted, 'cuz apparently there are just too many contributors who think any and all arguments for child safety on Wikipedia can be answered with WP:NPOV or WP:NOTCENSORED. I'll just give a shoutout, though, to Mr. Jimbo Wales, and hope that he sees my other suggestion... Norsehorse89 (talk) 06:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Add cs
editprotected Hi, please add cs interwiki: cs:Wikipedie:Vyloučení odpovědnosti. Thank you, --Podzemnik (talk) 12:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. Amalthea  12:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Shouty capitals
Is there really any good reason why the titles of these articles have to be in horrible ALL CAPITALS?  Chzz  ►  07:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I might be missing something, but ... which articles? Graham 87 12:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Licensing update
I have incorporated CC-BY-SA in keeping with the June 15 2009 licensing update. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Prominence
I think a prominent shortened version of such a disclaimer should be placed at the top of every Wikipedia article (it used to always say "Wikipeda - the Encyclopedia anyone can edit" - now it doesn't even say that - IMO it should go even further). There are far to many ignorant people that take Wikipedia information at face value, and do not even realise that anyone can add their own information, and bias - bias that is easy to insert by whoever shouts the loudest and knows how to game the system. In it's current form (without an obvious disclaimer on every page), I cannot wholeheartedly recommend any friend or relative to rely on Wikipedia. Jonto (talk) 23:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps Jimmy Wales thinks that such a prominent disclaimer would undermine the encyclopaedia, and make the start of the articles look less aesthetic, or somehow undermine its reputation. However, such a change would make me much more inclined to recommend Wikipedia to others. As things stand, the lack of a prominent and clear disclaimer on every page just makes me tell people to AVOID Wikipedia information whenever possible. Jonto (talk) 23:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So, you would recommend wikipedia with no warning, if there was a prominent disclaimer? Perhaps a disclaimer could simply take the form of a link to this page, instead of an ugly looking header? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yash Vaidya (talk • contribs) 11:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be a good idea to move the disclaimers link to the top of the page. After all, it's pretty pointless to have a content disclaimer about potentially objectionable content, spoilers, etc. which you can only see after you have scrolled through the content. Presumably, the disclaimer should be a useful aid to readers, not just legal cover for unregulated content. JoeFink (talk) 14:05, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

IW change
Please change  to. Thank you in advance. Brainmachine (talk) 09:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

request for interwiki link
Please, do add following interwiki link to Marathi Language Wikipedia 's page for this purpose


 * mr:विकिपीडिया:सर्वसाधारण उत्तरदायकत्वास नकार

माहीतगार (talk) 08:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ Graham 87 15:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Please, do add following interwiki link to Bengali Language Wikipedia 's page for this purpose

bn:উইকিপিডিয়া:সাধারণ দাবিত্যাগ - Jayanta Nath (Talk 11:54, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, but please use "" without the "tlx" part, so more admins can see your request. Thanks. Graham 87 03:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

- Jayanta Nath (Talk 17:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Please, add gl interwiki: gl:Wikipedia:Advertencia xeral. Thanks! --Toliño (talk) 12:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ JohnCD (talk) 14:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Would you please add interwiki link: et:Vikipeedia:Hoiatused. Hluup (talk) 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ CapitalR (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Please, add lv interwiki: lv:Vikipēdija:Saistību atrunas. -- G reen Z eb  (talk) 11:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Graham 87 15:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Medical Disclaimer Tags on Wikipedia's Medical Articles BADLY NEEDED!
With little or no inaccuracies, medical articles on wikipedia sound almost perfect. But some of the important pieces of information are missed out usually because they are still in the process of expansion. Check this out (A Nova Southeastern University Doctor discussing how people get medical information on the internet). People are more likely inclined to use wikipedia as medical reference as it is often the first place to to get information. This might eventually lead to either action being taken (such as buying 'drugs' over the internet), which may cause adverse effects, or no action being taken when someone may actually have a problem. Like ALL "medical reference" books, a disclaimer on the lead is the best solution. Wikipedia 's General disclaimer is not good enough. A medical disclaimer "TAG" to be placed on wikipedia especially on articles about drugs or sections about treatments of specific diseases is the most appropriate. Otherwise... the WORST CASE SCENARIO: Ambulance chasers swarming wikipedia because some fool made a mistake, gave his daughter some drug out of reading wikipedia, exacerbated her condition... and ended up killing her. ≈  Comm i t   cha   r g e   ₴


 * See No disclaimers in articles. Graham 87 12:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Interwiki to the Mirandese Wikipedia
Plz add mwl:Biquipédia:Abiso legal. Thanx, Manuel de Sousa (talk) 22:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Done, thanks. However, please don't use in your message, because it makes your request invisible to admins watching Category:Wikipedia protected edit requests; see the documentation for . Graham 87  05:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, sorry for the "tlx". I just copied that from previous posts above. Thanks, Manuel de Sousa (talk) 10:00, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Question
Could every disclaimer be written on one and that page be linked to from the link at the bottom of the pages OR could an individual link to each disclaimer be put on the bottom of the pages? It is hard to notice that there are disclaimers other than the general one, since clicking "Disclaimers" brings one to the general disclaimer. -- Nutarama (talk) 06:02, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 210.210.71.166, 27 August 2010

 * 1) REDIRECT Template:Edit protected/preload —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.210.71.166 (talk) 13:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Did you have a particular idea for a requested edit in mind? An interwiki link addition, perhaps? Graham 87 15:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

"other" twice
I think the following:

'''Their use here does not imply that you may use them for any other purpose other than for the same or a similar informational use as contemplated by the original authors of these Wikipedia articles under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL licensing schemes. '''

should be changed either to:

'''Their use here does not imply that you may use them for any purpose other than for the same or a similar informational use as contemplated by the original authors of these Wikipedia articles under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL licensing schemes. '''

or to:

'''Their use here does not imply that you may use them for any other purpose than for the same or a similar informational use as contemplated by the original authors of these Wikipedia articles under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL licensing schemes. '''

As it is, there is "other" twice there. Fon (talk) 23:34, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing this out. I've removed the first "other". Graham 87 02:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Articles not informations
".....accurate or reliable information" Should be changed to reliable articles. Since most of your writings here are based on articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.2.153 (talk) 13:21, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Not all of the info that we provide is in articles (for example the reference desk), so "information" is the correct word here. Graham 87 14:48, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 January 2012
173.23.125.109 (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No request-- Jac 16888 Talk 14:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 February 2012
The servers are now located in California, not Florida. – Zntrip 07:51, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * No, the Wikimedia Foundation offices are in San Francisco, but many of the servers are still in Florida. Graham 87 15:28, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

For or not for dyslexic and blind people?
Is reading content in Wikipedia suitable for dyslexic and blind people? Either way, should there be a disclaimer about and toward people who have difficult sight readings? --George Ho (talk) 01:12, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * There are some spoken articles available, and whether or not someones dyslexia can affect their ability to read Wikipedia presumably depends on the form their dyslexia takes. What sort of disclaimer are you suggesting be added? "Be aware, if you have trouble reading, you may not be able to read Wikipedia"?-- Jac 16888 Talk 01:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Very funny if you're trying. Well, that suggestion is a decent start... However, how's mine: "Wikipedia does not discriminate people with difficult sight readings. Nevertheless, they may have difficulty reading Wikipedia. Spoken articles is well-recommended for them." --George Ho (talk) 01:28, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's not really what this page is for, it's more about saying "These are the reasons Wikipedia may piss you off, and this is why it's not our fault". Something like that would be better off in an "accessibility" page, which would probably not be a bad idea to have-- Jac 16888 Talk 01:32, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * So where is that "Accessibility" page? I could not find one. --George Ho (talk) 01:36, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's what I meant, I don't think there is one, but perhaps there should be. Perhaps you could suggest it here-- Jac 16888 Talk 01:47, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ --George Ho (talk) 02:02, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Examples
Are there examples that some have taken material and released it, even though they should not? --80.161.143.239 (talk) 15:25, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, VDM Publishing have been widely criticised for selling duplicates of Wikipedia articles. Graham 87 04:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Summarizing WP:article size as part of disclaimer?
This guideline is rather discussed in the talk page. After all, there are concerns about reading, loading, and editing a long page. --George Ho (talk) 16:10, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Revise link to non-wikipedia disclaimers?
I don't think it's fair to label the non-wikipedia disclaimers as "similar" right after a sentence about vandalism, since most non-wiki sources are not subject to that particular problem. If the word "similar" is removed, the last sentence can be written as: Note that most other encyclopedias and reference works also have disclaimers. Silas S. Brown (talk) 08:36, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page not moved.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 02:42, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:General disclaimer → Help:General disclaimer – and the related pages should be moved to Help namespace since they are help pages. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 02:44, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose. How is this a help page? This is a legal disclaimer giving information about the content of Wikipedia (per Project namespace), and is currently protected from editing due to legal reasons. The last major change was made by an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation (with the edit summary "updated per [WMF] General Consel"), so I wouldn't want to be the one touching it without their consent. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * It is a help page because it help readers (as well as editors). And so what are the legal implications of moving the page and leaving a redir? If there are any I would seriously question the legal system that would (namely the US). Maybe I am not afraid of the legal niceties because of my New Zealand "she'll be right" attitude? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Again, a help page gives information about using Wikipedia, not about Wikipedia. I do not see any advantage about moving it. And it may not be a de jure legal implication, but more of a preference by the Wikimedia Foundation, which I would prefer to defer to in this situation. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose Not without a firm instruction from the Foundation's legal side. Heck, I even refused to carry out until Maggie Dennis . -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose clearly not a help page. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Acatna (talk) 12:48, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 August 2013
   94.69.153.82 (talk) 00:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)   <-! Αρχίστε αίτημα -> ~ ~ ~ ~ <- - αίτημα End!>
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. -- Red rose64 (talk) 07:22, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request November 2013
Per the current discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive256, please remove "We are working on ways to select and highlight reliable versions of articles" since it no longer applies. Cheers. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 21:36, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This request seems reasonable. It's fine to make thoughtful edits to this text. It's not tied to a Board resolution or anything like that. As I said on the noticeboard, we may want to centralize these disclaimers (it looks like we have five) on Meta-Wiki at some point. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. Killiondude (talk) 04:11, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Killiondude. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 10:06, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request November 2013 (2)
Please delete the word "similar" from the following passage, because it seems to be misleading in this immediate context:

"The content of any given article may recently have been changed, vandalized or altered by someone whose opinion does not correspond with the state of knowledge in the relevant fields. Note that most other encyclopedias and reference works also have similar disclaimers."

Taken at face value, that seems to say "most other encyclopedias and reference works" have disclaimers similar to "the content of any given article may recently have been changed, vandalized or altered". Most encyclopedias and reference works are not wikis, and the disclaimers linked to don't seem to include this point. Therefore I suggest dropping the word "similar" and just having "Note that most other encyclopedias and reference works also have disclaimers." (Perhaps the words "also have disclaimers" can be in the link.) Silas S. Brown (email, talk) 15:38, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree; the present wording is odd. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 15:44, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. I agree as well. Cheers. Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  05:26, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Silas S. Brown (email, talk) 13:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

i would like to disclaime the information written on Mr Alain moka concerning the stilling of Two million euro dobnate by the international comitee (Europeen Union). I have evidence that that amount was never given to us while i was minister of health in Congo-Brazza.

I would like wikipedia to analyse each information before publishing it. Please change the information writen on the secong paragraph, first line

Reference:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain

197.157.254.4 (talk) 13:30, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

HARSH RAKHUNDE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.125.237.130 (talk) 07:20, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

November of 2000 wrestling team pictures In Yorktown high school New York
I Wanna see my pictures of high school school wrestling in Yorktown high school TYE-WARRIOR (talk) 11:16, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 22 January 2014
The image name An angel presenting Mohammed by Abdullah Yusuf Ali this image bad and not correct you can delete please

Abboudkoo (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Wikipedia:General disclaimer. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit request: add Category:Wikipedia disclaimers
We have a Category:Wikipedia disclaimers that says "This category contains the official Wikipedia disclaimers." but neither the general disclaimer nor the others it lists are included in this category. Is there any reason not to add this category to the disclaimers? Alternately we could change the text of the category and include the disclaimer header template.--agr (talk) 22:13, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I added the header to the category for now.--agr (talk) 23:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)