Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 17

A7 deletion
As pointed out to me here, apparently when selecting WP:CSD as a reason for deletion using Huggle, it doesn't make it clear that only certain classes of article are eligible (real people, businesses, animals, websites) and everything else is ineligible, even if "importance/significance not asserted". Is there anyway to change the menu to be more like Twinkle, which lists A7 as multiple choices like this:


 * A7: Unremarkable people, groups, companies, web content, and individual animals
 * A7: Unremarkable person
 * A7: Unremarkable musician(s) or band
 * A7: Unremarkable club
 * A7: Unremarkable company or organization
 * A7: Unremarkable website or web content
 * A7: Unremarkable individual animal

Cheers SmartSE (talk) 13:41, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

5000+ edits in list cause problems
When I run Huggle for a long time (often), the list tops out at "5000 items" eventually Huggle will misbehave or crash. Also, once the list hits 5000, shutting down Huggle will result in an error and the error reporting does not complete requiring closing with task manager. Thank you! Jim1138 (talk) 07:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Reporting to AIV after first vandalism revert
Any idea why Huggle thought this was necessary. Per my talk page the patroller doesn't know why it happened. 7 05:32, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I just had a similar thing today. Huggle issued a 4th level warning when the user had never been warned before. (Possibly a misinterpretation of the username warning?) -- MacAddct1984 (talk &#149; contribs) 02:18, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Huggle sometimes does not add warnings to the user's talk page, but will issues a AIV after four unrecorded warnings. Seems to do this even if multiple Huggle users are involved in warning (for instance each of four Huggle user give a warning and none of those are recorded in the user's talk) and the warnings are not recorded by any of the Huggle users.  Jim1138 (talk) 23:01, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Undocumented enhancement? 7  00:19, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

A little help with diffs like this would be nice
Is it possible to get a better diff which would show what has been removed? example One pretty much has to go through it word by word (at least I do) to find the changes. Thanks for volunteering to update Huggle! user talk:Jim1138 23:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Unable to log in
I am currently unable to use Huggle; it reports "Unable to log in" with no explanation. Has Huggle been disabled? Should I download Huggle 3, and will it work? (I thought it was still in beta stage.) Where can it be downloaded from? - Mike Rosoft (talk) 09:02, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Huggle works ok, try to log in to another wiki. Which version you have? Petrb (talk) 16:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It was probably just a failure of the API due to the updates. Chico (talk) 20:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Huggle advancing to next revision without command
Occasionally, Huggle will advance to the next item on the list without me clicking the "Show the next revision in the queue". I don't think I am hitting the space bar. Would it be possible to disable the keyboard? I have caused grief by accidental keyboard clicks. Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 04:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Message warning a bit off
When editor A is being reverted (with Huggle) to an edit by B and B has been warned, a message is given something like "Reverting back to edit by A who has been previously warned". It probably should use editor B's name rather than editor A's name. Thank you! Jim1138 (talk) 23:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Virus-free?
I am a Twinkle user and I would like to use this too, but I want to know if it is virus-free. -- JC  Talk to me My contributions 02:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to be rude, but with all of us using it, it obviously is. Calabe1992 02:45, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You can always check the code. Not that it is needed. Chico Venancio (talk) 04:43, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No. And like Chico Venancio said, you can check the code if you still have doubt. → Σ  τ  c . 06:33, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Next version number?
It looks like, in the notes about what changed going from 2.1.18 to 2.1.19, that the next version will be 1.19? Banaticus (talk) 04:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * No, no, the next version is named 2.1.20. --IWorld (talk) 05:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

AfD template warning
Perhaps the AfD removal and db removal should give an option to restore only the Afd/db? I caused problems by reverting an AfD removal plus a considerable amount of edits by the user. I did not realize how much I removed until notified by an admin. The editor probably could not figure out what was happening either. Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 08:21, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Filed bug request here.-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 16:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Bug
I was trying to open Huggle but it hanged itself when it was: Checking global configurations...... And then I closed it and a note came up with the update request. I clicked Update and the update started. When about half of the bar was full a bug report came up with the following:

Win32Exception: %1 is not a valid Win32 application at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithShellExecuteEx(ProcessStartInfo startInfo) at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(ProcessStartInfo startInfo) at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(String fileName) at Huggle.UpdateForm.UpdateDone(RequestResult Result) at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject) Then I clicked Continue.-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 12:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello Ankit Maity! I have created a bug in bugzilla. (see this) If you comment the bug, please login or create an account in bugzilla. --IWorld (talk) 12:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyway just a note that it just got updated and is working now.-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 12:35, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, and it's not hanging anymore?--mmovchin Talk 12:38, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yah.-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 16:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Removal of spaces by vandal not easily spotted
Would it be possible to display where spaces are removed? When an edit changes "hello there" to "hellothere", it can be very difficult to see especially in large paragraphs. Highlighting "hellothere" would be a big help. Cheers! Jim1138 (talk) 07:22, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Filed request for Huggle here and for MediaWiki here.-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 16:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Backwards Edit Summary
Don't know if this is a fluke, a bug, an act of God, or what, but this edit summary is backwards. Dunno if that's useful, but there is. Keep up the good work dev team. If I knew anything about programming I'd help you out! Millermk90 (talk) 04:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Filed request here.-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 07:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. --mmovchin Talk 12:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Threshold?
Could I set a threshold for huggle to only show negative scoring edits? User Talk:Willdude123 11:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Not currently, although if you use the Filtered List this orders the edits with the 'lowest scoring' edits at the top of the list, so they are the first to be looked at.  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 17:45, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

You recently reverted an edit on Kerckhoff's principle
You reverted my edit because I had to source the statement. WP is a co-operative space, and I feel a change is needed: normally the talk page would be the place to start. Unlike the article itself it is writeprotected! This seems like the world upside down. Are you in the power to release the talk page? that way in the future others would also feel less forced to edit the article itself, and can consult the Talk page for collaborative effort

Thank you for releasing the talk page! You can see my entry in a new section there (in hopefully much cleaner style than my original edit on the article)


 * I have no idea what edit this is talking about but per the last sentence  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e !  00:44, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Update Bugzilla link
On http://code.google.com/p/huggle/ there is a link to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Could someone change it to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Huggle ?

Thanks! Helder 00:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ cheers :)  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 00:41, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Internationalization Problems
Hello huggle-developpers, I use the huggle Version 2.1.19 with the german translation. The problem is, that some dialogs aren't useable correctly because the german translation is longer then the original text. So in many dialogs the description of an inputfield make the inputfield unuseable. --Jogo.obb (talk) 16:30, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Cool, so what's Huggle do?
Kind of the most important part of a wiki article, especially about something like this. A 'tool used to counter vandalism' isn't exactly expansive. Surely we can get a couple of extra lines of explaination going on? BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 08:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Diffs at AIV
The diffs that Huggle is providing at AIV appear to no longer work with popups. Not a huge issue but it makes checking the diffs in an AIV report somewhat more time consuming. Not sure if this is something to be dealt with on this end or the popups end, but I thought I'd check here first. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 21:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Huggle MOTD
I think it would be nice to have a huggle MOTD. If anyone can come up with some suggestions post here or on my talk page please :)  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 17:51, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * By this I mean Motto of the day  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:black;">T alk T o M e ! 16:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

error while doing the request (warning)
huggle did not warn "<IP ADDRESS>" error while doing the request. And so it does not posts any warning message to the vandals page, i have observed that sometimes when this happens, the IPs talk page also does not exists before that. While the warning feature does work well for a lot of cases, can you please suggest how to handle this error so that the person can be properly warned ? --  Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   14:46, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * (addition) it generally happens for IP users whose talk page does not exist, but sometimes it is able to warn even them. This problem often creates a pending queue of IPs to be warned which then makes huggle slower. Please look into this and any suggestion to solve this is welcome--  Ð ℬig XЯaɣ   02:58, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Bug while showing two queues
I sometimes use two queues in Huggle, "All Edits" on top and a filtered list below. When only one page matches the filter, though, that page isn't shown. If there are two pages in the queue, both will show on the list, but as soon as I view one, the other one disappears. For example, if I set my filter to show edits to articles with "school" in the title, I might see "Glenview School" and "Southwood School" on the list, but when I click on "Glenview School", "Southwood School" drops from the list (though the queue still says there's one item in it). When I switch the top queue to show filtered pages, "Southwood School" shows up. FYI. Matt Deres (talk) 22:53, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Huggle occasionally opens many browser tabs
While examining Saint Petersburg, I clicked on "Open this in an external browser [O]". It opened the correct Wikipedia page (somewhat slowly). It also opened up multiple tabs (in Chrome). Addresses of "title%3Dsaint%20petersburg%3Erevision/", "as/", "of/", "0.0.0.16/", "march/", "2012%3C/a%3E" (2012<), "%28%3Ca/" ((<a), "href%3D/w/index.php?title=Saint_Petersburg&amp;action=edit&amp;oldid=482166354", "http://title%3Dsaint%20petersburg%3Eedit%3C/a%3E)%3C/strong%3E%3C/div%3E%3Cdiv", and others for a total of 27 tabs plus "Saint Petersburg". Closing all of those tabs and clicking a second time on "Open this in an external browser [O]" seemed to reopen the same set of tabs. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 00:33, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I am experiencing the same problem, using Opera 11. Are there any solutions?  ...  disco spinster   talk  01:20, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Same here, chrome. Chico Venancio (talk) 03:30, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Just wondering
First, forgive me if this has been addressed before. I'm new to Windows 7; in XP I would save new versions to my desktop to get around my Semantec config (which was probably not the thing to do but it worked), but 7 gives no such option. Maybe I should say no such option that I see. I can "run" the script fine in 7 and that's not an unworkable solution for me but I would rather have a shortcut on my desktop. Thanks for any help.  Tide  rolls  21:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I dont know what "Semantec config" you are talking about. I guess you want a huggle shortcut on your dsektop ? i use huggle on my windows 7 PC, you can goto the the huggle exe file and right click to create a shortcut. now move that shortcut to your desktop. next time u wanna run it, just click huggle shortcut on your desktop. (if this is not what you want then perhaps you need to elaborate your problem more clearly)--  Ð ℬig  XЯaɣ   22:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * "Semantec config"=my anti-virus configuration. Which may be irrelevant but in XP, when I attempted to save the script as a program, my anti-virus wouldn't allow the download.  Anyway, I tried your way and it's clunky but no more clunky than "running" the script every time.  I'll learn to live with it, it's no big deal really.  Thanks for responding so quickly.  Tide  rolls  23:17, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I used to use Symantec software on my machine. You should be able to go into the anti-virus scanning settings and find a place where you can add locations that will be excluded from scanning. For the desktop, it would be something like C:\Users\YOURUSERACCOUNTNAME\Desktop. Does that fix your issue? Calabe1992 20:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll give that a shot, Calabe. Thanks for weighing in.  Tide  rolls  22:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Unable to revert
I am unable to revert even after clicking that I want to revert. Dialed a 35582 bug. Happens 2-3 times every session.

Conditions
-- Ankit Maity <sup style="color:magenta;">Talk <sub style="color:green;">Contribs 12:54, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Sloppy vandal patrolling
I've noticed that a lot of Hugglers—not a majority, but too many—tend to be a little sloppy. While they are capable of doing hundreds of reverts in a short amount of time, too many of those are half-reverts: because they simply rollback to another vandalized revision, they succeed in removing some of the vandalism while leaving plenty more, vandalism that would have been impossible not to notice had they not been too busy blazing along to properly check their work. Is there any way to mitigate this, perhaps by restricting access to the tool until a user displays some level of proficiency? An option (possibly default) to automatically open the article's history every time a revert is performed might be a good idea, as well. --Bongwarrior (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Theoretically, the level of proficiency should be displayed as part of requesting the rollback privilege, which is required to run Huggle in the first place. Perhaps applicants should be encouraged to declare awareness of the care needed to use automated tools, much like applicants are already encouraged to declare awareness of the basic rules of vandalism response. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa  (talk) 15:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point about needing to request rollback first, my mistake. For some reason, I was under the impression that rollback only made Huggle faster, and wasn't a requirement. --Bongwarrior (talk) 15:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * On a related note, you may be interested in this. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa  (talk) 19:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that does seem like a pretty good idea. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:31, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Just pointing out. I've been using Huggle since 2009. The issue is not restricted to editors, but also due to the fact that sometimes Huggle roll back to another vandalised version. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Huggle does have that problem; though I wouldn't blame a user for accidentally rolling back to a vandalised version, I would always expect them to check that the version they're restored is acceptable, and fix it if it is not. I don't have a technical solution, but gently reminding people who get that wrong would probably help. Revoking rollback rights would be a last step, but available if the situation necessitates. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:59, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey if there is any problem in huggle make a ticket in bugzilla, if there is any problem with users, please report them, I will create a page for that soon, everyone who will keep doing troubles should have the access to tool revoked, which can be done by everyone with sysop rights. Petrb (talk) 07:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ItsZippy, I think the best way to fix it is to keep your browser window pointing to your contribs page open. Reload, open the page, and check. I do it to check if I am right. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I am definitely not aware of that huggle reverts to any other vandalised version, in fact it's not even possible. Huggle uses api for rollback and that perform same rollback as if using interface of mediawiki. It is possible that multiple users vandalised the page and your rollback of course revert all edits by same user, to last edit by another user than vandal. So if that user was vandal as well, there are still problems, huggle offers a diff after each revert and you can also display the page in a browser immediately to check if it's correct. I see no reason to open a second window with your contributions. If there is any problem with this, or huggle doesn't behave like that, open a ticket please Petrb (talk) 12:59, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That is exactly what I was referring to. Though I have once seen a case, where the same IPs edits were separated by a whitelisted user, and Huggle reverted the later IP edits, the whitelsited edits to the first set of edits made by the IP. I know it sounds confusing, but I hope you understand. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes it is possible to restore a selected revision, called rollback of multiple users. In fact it only restore the chosen revision of article, but that is not a standard revert function, the user who has done that, must have pick a specific revision they wanted to revert to. Petrb (talk) 13:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

ArgumentException error
When I try to view a revision in Huggle, primarily in a speedy deletion category, an error message appears: ArgumentException: Já foi adicionado um item com a mesma chave. em System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentException(ExceptionResource resource) em System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Insert(TKey key, TValue value, Boolean add) em Huggle.Misc.ParseUrl(String Url) na Misc.vb:linha 636 em Huggle.Requests.BrowserRequest.Done na Requests\ReadRequests.vb:linha 365 em Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone na Requests\Requests.vb:linha 170 em Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject) na Misc.vb:linha 360 What is happening? Francisco (talk) 21:52, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Statistic Gathering.
How can I export huggle statistics or record them as I want to analyze the frequency of reverts at different times in the day? Willdude123&#124;Ƹ21ɘbublliW (talk) 17:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Database query error
When I try to delete, tag, edit, revert or warn, an error message appears: Did not delete 'page': Database query error Did not tag 'page': Database query error Did not warn 'user': Database query error What is happening? Francisco (talk) 13:41, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

no IRC when running under Wine in Ubuntu 12.04
I've managed to get it working under Wine for the first time in years, and it seems to work just fine (if a bit slow), except IRC doesn't work. If I enable it, no recent changes are retrieved. No errors or messages of any kind show up in the "requests" dialog, nor in the log. It is not a firewall issue. It could be a Wine issue, as Wine gives out quite a few fixme's. Does anybody know anything about this? Thanks. Calvin (t·c) 04:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Irc feed is globally disabled, it's ok Petrb (talk) 07:31, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

"Unable to log in."
I am getting the subject error on my new laptop, running Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1. It should meet all the requirements, plus I am a rollbacker here. I have triple-checked the Username and Password and tried deleting config.txt. I don't need a proxy, IE and Chrome can login just fine. I am trying to use it on English Wikipedia, using the English language interface. —  Jeff G. ツ (talk)   02:58, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I am having the same issue, though I was able to log in earlier today. ... disco spinster   talk  03:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the confirmation. I feel your pain.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Does it say anything else? Are you using latest version? Petrb (talk) 07:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No and yes last night (EDT -0400), haven't had a chance to check today (not near it).  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   12:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * FYI I can log in now. Must have been a temporary glitch. ... disco spinster   talk  18:08, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * So can I.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   00:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

"Unable to load whitelist"
Getting this error on huggle login. Every time today. Problem with whitelist or my computer? Yes on "continue?" seems to work OK. Jim1138 (talk) 05:30, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I got the same problem too. Francisco (talk) 14:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Would like ability by default to see the diff of ALL the edits the most recent editor has made
Huggle shows me only the most recent diff. I'd like to see a diff between the last version before the most recent editor started making edits and the current version. Some vandals are clever and make their most recent diff a null edit and so Huggle shows nothing, and some good edits have something funny-looking happen as their last edit (for example, removing sourced content, when the editor's previous edit added better sourced content that is replacing the removed stuff), and I have to open the page history in a separate window to find out what happened. This would be especially useful as it ties into having Huggle revert all the most recent editor's edits. Can Huggle do this already or can it be made to do this? Thanks. 13:09, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

IPv6
As reported in the Signpost and elsewhere including WP:AN, anonymous IPv6 addresses are now implemented and live here on en-wp. The Signpost reports that Huggle is having difficulty with anonymous IPv6 edits; is this true? I've hit a few and there don't appear to be issues, although I can't claim to have thoroughly tested it. Calvin (t·c) 17:47, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It is a known bug, and it is being tracked here. When you attempt to revert an edit by an IPv6 address, it only interprets the last part of the IP address as the username, as it is used to splitting usernames at the colon between "User" and the actual name/IP address, which obviously doesn't work for IPv6 addresses, which have many colons. Logan Talk Contributions 03:00, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Huggle in OSX
I'm having a terrible time getting HG to work with OSX, is there anything I need to run it running a 2011 Macbook Pro running OSX Lion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solarra (talk • contribs) 02:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, in this moment there is no version which is running well on OSX, you should ask User:GorillaWarfare who is running huggle on her mac Petrb (talk) 09:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

build instructions for Huggle 3?
Hi, are there instructions anywhere for building Huggle 3 from SVN? I would like to build huggle 3 under mono on Debian GNU/Linux. --Johannes Rohr (talk) 22:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Quick bug report, the manual edit window covers up the summary box automatically. --Nathan2055talk - contribs 22:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Cluebot Feed
Can someone let me know how to use Cluebot IRC feed in Huggle. I saw a discussion in the archives, but I could not figure out how to configure Huggle for Cluebot feed. - Anbu121  ( talk me ) 01:07, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Request for new warning option
Hi thanks for the tool, it's great. Would it be possible include another warning: adding defamatory content uw-defam1 and so on, as there are times when inappropriate biographical content does not apply whereas adding defamatory content would. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 07:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Level one warnings
Hey y'all. Just a heads up that, per the consensus from Requests for comment/Level one user warnings, the level one warnings are going to get an update. The switch has already been made for the relevant templates at WP:WARN, so we're just going to standardize on the ones from that project's list that are used in HG currently. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;">Steven Walling (WMF) &bull; talk   21:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Error report
A box popped up with the following content:


 * OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
 * at System.String.Concat(String str0, String str1)
 * at Huggle.Misc.StripHTML(String Text)
 * at Huggle.Processing.GetChangesFromDiff(String Text)
 * at Huggle.Processing.ProcessDiff(Edit Edit, String DiffText, BrowserTab Tab)
 * at Huggle.Requests.DiffRequest.Done
 * at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone
 * at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)

Not doing anything special. Running about 10 minutes, a few vandalism warnings. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 22:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

IPv6 warning failed
Waning to IPv6 talk page failed. Perhaps this is language specific problem. At Japanese Wikipedia project, I tried to warn about page blanking to ja:User talk:240F:13:818C:1:41C6:70D:9BC:4697 using Huggle. But warning was posted to ja:User talk:4697 by Huggle. Huggle version is 2.1.19, OS is WinXP, language setting is Japanese. --Was a bee (talk) 02:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * This is a known issue, but currently no-one is working on it.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:55, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Huggle 3
Is there any update on the release date of Huggle 3? I really want to use it, but I can't as I have a mac. StringTheory11 02:15, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * They say by the end of 2012, but I believe you can use Wine (software) with it. However, when I tried it on my Ubuntu machine, it didn't work, so it's worth a try. [] Michaelzeng7 (talk) 18:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I tried wine, but it failed for me. StringTheory11 (t • c) 00:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * In my experience it was very hard to get huggle working with WINE, although I did get it to work, there were a number of issues. Some people have reported getting it to work, but I think it's an uphill battle. Shadowjams (talk) 06:16, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Failing to Download Whitelist
Huggle is failing to download the whitelist just now. Any ideas? Geoff <sup style="color:blue;">Who, me?  01:30, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Same here... for several days now.   Wikipelli <sup style="color:#7b68ee;">Talk   18:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it persists today. Geoff  <sup style="color:blue;">Who, me?  01:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like this is a widespread error? I'm getting it too. Should I just continue? Michaelzeng7 (talk) 16:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Still not working... Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Also not working for German Wikipedia. --Sk!d (talk) 09:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

SineBot
Please add an option to ignore SineBot's contributions to one's user talk page (to not send Windows notifications about them). Thank you. —  Jeff G. ツ (talk)   01:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * This page is about Huggle, not SineBot, you need to have a look at User:SineBot. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:15, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Whitelist
I cannot download the whitelist on 2.1.19. I use Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 and Firefox 15 Beta. WikiCopter 17:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Having the same issue. This has been happening for a few days.  Running Win7 HP. Regards,  --Slazenger <b style="font-size:9px;"> (Contact Me)</b> 04:10, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I've had this issue for almost a month. It's quite frustrating. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 20:12, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Piling on to confirm the issue. White Ash (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Request
I don't mind using Huggle often, may I have a request to download and use Huggle.--GoShow (...............) 15:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course, you can download huggle, but rollback permission is needed to use it. -- Anbu121 ( talk me ) 16:44, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, you need rollback to use Huggle. I'm willing to bet an admin will give it to you if you ask for it at Requests for permissions. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 19:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Never happened, maybe do it again see what happens GoShow  (...............)-- 03:45, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

COI to a level 4
I reverted this user who only had a welcome and a user name - coi. A level 4 warning was given. Is this the desired behavour of huggle? Diff Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Huggle Error
Huggle Crashed on me and now it wont Start anymore...

See screenshot http://i.imgur.com/O2no9.jpg for the error Msg

thanks --Fox2k11 (talk) 19:24, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Same start error message on the es-wikipedia. I did not suffer a crash before, I just tried a login after a break. 3 hours earlier the world was ok. Best regards. --Jkbw (talk) 19:35, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Huggle to fiwiki
Hi, Could you make it possible to Huggle work in fiwiki? I could help testing it there. --Olli (talk) 12:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You can help. See . --Was a bee (talk)
 * Why there is required to ask sysop for assistance? --Olli (talk) 13:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I can install it there, if you want Petrb (talk) 14:40, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * However assistance of someone who understand local language would be great Petrb (talk) 14:40, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Request
Finally permission from rollback and hoping to use Huggle more efficiently other than fast vandalism tools of STiki and looking forward to using new tools.--GoShow (...............) 14:18, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Failed to download whitelist
I tried to use Huggle today, when after logging in it displayed the message "Failed to download the whitelist, continue?". Presumably, this would mean that the queue gets flooded with trusted users' edits, which I obviously don't want. Does anybody else have this problem? The whitelist itself loads fine in a browser. I'm using Huggle 2.1.19. <span style="font-family:'Courier new',monospace">Klilidiplomus+Talk 06:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It's happening to everyone, but we're unsure what's being done about it. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:01, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * This has been happening for close to a month. I hope something is being done about it. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * well it seems to still be faulty with my download of 2.1.19 Nasnema   Chat  22:56, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm getting the error too, but just from my queue it is very obvious that I actually HAVE downloaded the whitelist. Trusilver  19:25, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree with Trusilver. Though I have been getting the error since 4 August, I've continued to use Huggle. The "Filtered Edits" results look like they always have in terms of what edits I see, meaning that the whitelist is probably applied despite the error. It would be nice to know if that supposition is correct. And nicer if the error didn't appear! Geoff  <sup style="color:blue;">Who, me?  20:51, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed by clearing the whitelist Petrb (talk) 14:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I confirm that it is indeed fixed now. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 20:58, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good here too. Trusilver  22:29, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

HELP
Every time I revert a vandal edit by huggle and issue a warning to the editor, his talk page gets included in my watchlist. How should I change this setting? Harsh (talk)  14:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That happens to me also. I don't think there is a setting for it, the best way if you don't want them is do your Huggle session, then go to your watchlist and click edit watchlist. Then untick all the undesired user talk pages (or any other pages you don't want, for a general cleanup). On an unrelated note, please try and be gender neutral.  Rcsprinter  (gas)  @ 19:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have never had this happen to me in years of using Huggle. I'm thinking there IS a setting that is tweaked. Considering this is NOT the default for Huggle, the issue could probably be repaired simply by deleting and redownloading the most recent version. Needing to go through and unwatch every page that was inadvertently watched every time you revert vandalism would be just silly. Trusilver  19:44, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I used to and I am still doing the same thing as Rcsprinter mentioned, but I don't think that's a proper solution (Sorry for not being gender-neutral ). I also tried to reinstall huggle, but the problem persists. I guess there is no solution. My watchlist is becoming really messy. Harsh (talk)  10:05, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Request
I am hoping to use Huggle more efficiently other than fast vandalism tools of STiki and looking forward to using new tools, may I please use it?--GoShow (...............)01:03, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You will need wp:rollback rights to use Huggle. To request rollback rights see: Requests for permissions. You will likely need a history that demonstrates an understanding of what wp:vandalism is and is not (such as a fair amount of manual vandalism patrolling) (sse permissions) as well as a lack not being blocked for problem editing. A good place to start is Counter-Vandalism Unit/Acadamy Feel free to ask questions on my talk page. Thanks for joining the team! Jim1138 (talk) 05:07, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I did check the last revisions, however, I was allowed the rollback to use Huggle, but it never came back to me on the Huggle feedback--GoShow (...............) 22:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Issue
My rollback says I'm using Huggle, although, I can't even log into the Huggle, can you explain this, or FIX it please-- GoShow (............................)   00:18, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * If you have not used Huggle before, add the text enable:true after creating User:GoShow/huggle.css on project where you want to use Huggle. A little word of advice after seeing your talkpage, use it wisely. Harsh (talk)  10:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Diffs at AIV (again)
Now that I'm back to rather active admin work I thought I would bring up this issue again. The diffs provided in Huggle reports to AIV still do not work with popups...when I hover over them instead of showing the diff nothing happens. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 20:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * When I report any user at AIV through huggle, it does show diffs with popups. Harsh (talk)  08:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not happening with me in either Firefox or Chrome. I go to AIV, hover over one of the little numbers in the report that links to a diff, and all that happens is I get the pointing hand that comes up when you go to click a normal hyperlink, even if I hover over it for quite a while. Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 20:32, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I can understand how frustrating it would be. Does that happen with all wikilinks? Harsh (talk)  06:06, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure what made the difference, but they seem to be working now. Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 09:25, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Reporting ipv6 vandals
This does not work. See this attempt. I had to manually correct to this. Can this be looked into please? Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 09:58, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

See also User talk:20 and. - DVdm (talk) 10:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Can something be done about this please? Huggle is effectively useless for ipv6 vandalism. - DVdm (talk) 07:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The bug report for this is here. It doesn't look like anyone is jumping on it though. The increasing use of v6 addresses is making this less of a nuisance and more of a real problem. --Tgeairn (talk) 03:22, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Indeed, a real problem already. - DVdm (talk) 16:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Log in
I am new to WP:Huggle and I am trying to allow enable:true to my User:GoShow/huggle.css, please comment if there is any useful help unless it is finished.-- GoShow (............................) 13:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you please login and confirm that you are that user? Petrb (talk) 13:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Still testing.-- GoShow (............................)   22:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Login Successful.-- GoShow (............................)   22:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Going slow
Hello all. I just recently started using Huggle, and it worked great at first. But now, after a while, it has started being very very slow pulling down the diffs of pages. Is there something I did to cause this, or is there any way to fix this? Thanks! gwickwire &#124; Leave a message 01:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, I added custom templates and Edit Summaries to Huggle, but they aren't showing up. Any reason for this? Is there a fix? Thanks gwickwire &#124; Leave a message 23:35, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Can't comment about the going slow part. Many times I tried to add custom templates and edit summaries. It works, but on the next session everything is gone again. Something seems to be wrong indeed. I never reported it though. Let's hope this will solve itself in the next major release. - DVdm (talk) 11:56, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply! But, see the thing is, I will add them, and the templates will never show up in the edit menu. At all. I go back and look at the custom window and they're there, just not when I try to revert/warn someone... I hope it fixes itself too. gwickwire &#124; Leave a message 16:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Symbols, colors, help!
May I know what do the colors symbolizes and what the symbols mean like O, /, *, etc?  TruPepitoM  Talk To Me  14:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Huggle 3.0 for Linux
Hi, I would like to test it. Is it available for testing? Thanks, --everton137 (talk) 17:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I use a Mac and I would love to use it, Beta isn't expected to come out until December... ♠♥♣Shaun9876♠♥♣  Talk  22:58, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Names of attack pages
It looks like Huggle includes the name of pages tagged as attack pages when it adds the warning to the user talk page. This happens both in the warning itself and in the edit summary. (See, e.g. this diff which I was recently made aware of.) There was a recent RfC about this which concluded that a generic warning should be used instead, and that there shouldn't be any links to the page name in the edit summary. Is there any chance of having this implemented? It's been done in Twinkle already, but I forgot to let the Huggle people know about it before. Best — <span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 15:06, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Huggle errors
Hermitage Academy: Revision history contains an example of a counter vandalism edit, where I reverted a reversion done (probably almost simulteneously) by another editor. This caused me to replace the vandalism. Is this a common error? I have also experienced the "going slow" problem outlined 4 edits above. Thanx. --Sue Rangell &#91; citation needed &#93; 00:40, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

More Huggle errors
This was brought to my attention: Another editor was puzzled by my edit summary here so he poked around in my contributions and found similar trouble here and here. There appears to be more than a few bugs in Huggle. When will they be fixed? --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ff55ff 0em 0em 0.8em,#55ffff -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#ffff55 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#ffffff">Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 06:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Instance of unwarranted warnings on old edits
I reverted three edits made around 21:39, 14 November 2012. I reverted all three at exactly 00:29, 15 November 2012. Huggle added three warnings to his talk page User talk:69.209.221.1. It would seem that only one at most should have been issued. This got me in a bit of trouble. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 03:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

"Edit this page" error
Very often, when I try to edit article text using Huggle's feature, the supposed text of the page in my editing tool will go blank. If I were to hit "save," this would have the actual effect of completely blanking the page. -- Jprg1966  (talk)  18:42, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note:I am having this problem as well. I'm using 2.1.19. Seems to be a bug in these later versions of Huggle as it worked fine back when I used 2.1.14 and 2.1.15.  The Master of Mayhem    (t    c)  22:06, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

fa.wiki
Hi would you please update translation dictionary? we translated meta:Huggle/Localization/fa but till now it doesn't update also would you please add RTL otion for wiki view?SPhotographer (talk) 19:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Feature request
Just under the "Vandalism" revert button, add an "Editing while intoxicated" button. Jim1138 (talk) 10:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Localization problem (WP:SD)
I can't find a way to change edit summery of speedy deletions. The default is " Criterion ", but I couldn't find WP:SD in project configuration page. -- Dalba 19 Azar 1391/ 14:10, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Unable to download whitelist
This error popped up when I went on huggle this afternoon. It seems to have happened before as well. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 13:41, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Feature request: request oversight
Would it be possible to add a "request oversight on diff" feature? I find myself requesting oversight fairly regularly, so if this could be automated it would be very handy. Of course, there may need to be additional safeguards (e.g. a confirmation prompt prior to submission that confirms the details of the report) to minimise accidents, since one cannot "undo" the sending of the request. SMC (talk) 15:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be quite useful. Harsh (talk)  16:43, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Bug filed. -- Ankit Maity <sup style="color:magenta;">Talk <sub style="color:green;">Contribs 16:05, 13 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ankit. SMC (talk) 06:09, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Problem
Encountered this error in 2.1.19. Clues?

ArgumentException: Parameter is not valid. at System.Drawing.Font.GetHeight(Graphics graphics) at System.Drawing.Font.get_SizeInPoints at System.Drawing.SystemFonts.FontInPoints(Font font) at System.Drawing.SystemFonts.get_MenuFont at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripManager.get_DefaultFont at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.get_Font at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItemInternalLayout.CommonLayoutOptions at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDownButton.ToolStripDropDownButtonInternalLayout.CommonLayoutOptions at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItemInternalLayout.GetLayoutData at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItemInternalLayout.PerformLayout at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDownItem.OnBoundsChanged at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.SetBounds(Rectangle bounds) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripOverflowButton.SetBounds(Rectangle bounds) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.set_Size(Size value) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.get_OverflowButton at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripSplitStackLayout.get_OverflowButtonSize at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripSplitStackLayout.LayoutHorizontal at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripSplitStackLayout.LayoutCore(IArrangedElement container, LayoutEventArgs layoutEventArgs) at System.Windows.Forms.Layout.LayoutEngine.Layout(Object container, LayoutEventArgs layoutEventArgs) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnLayout(LayoutEventArgs levent) at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.OnLayout(LayoutEventArgs levent) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnLayout(LayoutEventArgs e)  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PerformLayout(LayoutEventArgs args) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.PerformLayout at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ResumeLayout(Boolean performLayout) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip..ctor

I can't make heads nor tails of this.  The Master of Mayhem    (t    c)  18:11, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Tests involving downloading other versions of Huggle all reveal the error message printed above. Is there something wrong on my computer or did they become infected with bugs since I last used them? I really need an answer as soon as possible as all these errors are driving me nuts. Maybe I'll threaten to walk out for good if no one sees this.  The Master of Mayhem    (t    c)  08:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Can we have more details like when do you encounter this error and stuff (essential for identifying bugs). -- Ankit Maity <sup style="color:magenta;">Talk <sub style="color:green;">Contribs 16:15, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No need to worry, turned out to be something at my end after a diagnosis was made in chat.  The Master of Mayhem    (t    c)  23:55, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Huggle is adding pages to my watchlist
How can I stop huggle from adding IP pages to my watch list when a warning is issued? I unhcked the option, but pages are still being added. little green rosetta $central scrutinizer (talk)$ 05:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Haven't used HG in a while, but I believe that the issue isn't with Huggle, but with the MediaWiki software. The software automatically watchlists a page you create, so if you're the first poster ever on that talkpage, it watchlists it. I could be wrong though. gwickwire  talk edits 21:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


 * If this is the issue, you can go to Special:Preferences and untick the box "Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist".-- Dalba 10 Dey 1391/ 05:06, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Brilliant!  little green rosetta $central scrutinizer (talk)$ 05:21, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

OutOfMemoryException: List box contains too many items.
OutOfMemoryException: List box contains too many items. at System.Windows.Forms.ListBox.NativeAdd(Object item) at System.Windows.Forms.ListBox.OnHandleCreated(EventArgs e)  at System.Windows.Forms.CheckedListBox.OnHandleCreated(EventArgs e)   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmCreate(Message& m)   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)   at System.Windows.Forms.ListBox.WndProc(Message& m)   at System.Windows.Forms.CheckedListBox.WndProc(Message& m)   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Yesterday I worked without failures with Huggle in Russian Wikipedia, but today Huggle ceases to work, and displays this error. What I need to do to restore Huggle in working condition?

version:2.1.19 Windows XP

Thanks.--Parisse &#34;Anima&#34; nuaddal (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Reporting ipv6 vandals (restored from archive)
This does not work. See this attempt. I had to manually correct to this. Can this be looked into please? Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 09:58, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

See also User talk:20 and. - DVdm (talk) 10:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Can something be done about this please? Huggle is effectively useless for ipv6 vandalism. - DVdm (talk) 07:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The bug report for this is here. It doesn't look like anyone is jumping on it though. The increasing use of v6 addresses is making this less of a nuisance and more of a real problem. --Tgeairn (talk) 03:22, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Indeed, a real problem already. - DVdm (talk) 16:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Problem not solved yet. Section restore/copied from WP:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 17 — If inappropriate, feel free to undo. - DVdm (talk) 09:48, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Ha! According to Huggle/Changes ipv6 is supported now. Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work! - DVdm (talk) 19:19, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Huggle giving multiple warnings to inactive user
I did a number of reverts to a user that had not been active for two hours. 2:09 22 Jan last one The user was given four warnings here of increasing levels. Can this be fixed? Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 22:13, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3
As it says on the development page for the release "By the end of 2012". Since we're fast approaching that date, any idea when it will come out? Thanks, and Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Whatever §haun   9∞76   ༆  15:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I was wondering the same thing. --<span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Webclient101 talk 02:22, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Well it's now 2013 and I see no Huggle 3. §haun  9∞76   ༆  20:36, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Is there any chance of an update on this. Blethering  Scot  20:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Given the inactivity of small dev community, I don't believe we are able to finish huggle 3 any time soon, I am sorry guys, I was hoping more people would join the project, but I couldn't work on huggle much, I hope it's going to be better. Petrb (talk) 12:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * No harm done. The current version 2.1.19 is robust—and fantastic! No worries, no hurries. - DVdm (talk) 17:27, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ... and 2.1.20 now supports ipv6. Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 19:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for the IPv6 support from me too. —S MALL  JIM   23:51, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Oddness in 2.1.20
This revert, the first I did after just upgrading to Huggle 2.1.20, went completely wrong. It should have been a simple revert of the previous IP edit, but the edit summary states that it reverted 2 edits, back to one that was actually 6 edits ago - and in fact it deleted the whole article! This hasn't happened again (yet), but I thought I should record the fact. —S MALL JIM   23:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Update: this hasn't happened again in the 300+ edits I've done with Huggle since, so it looks as if it was related to the upgrade - unwanted retention of cached data, perhaps? —S MALL  JIM   23:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Localization on other wiki
Can anyone teach me how to make a localization on my language wiki, I need to know what the first step. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Calibri (Body),serif; font-style:bold;">&mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 14:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

setting of Huggle's diff colour/monobook.css
Hello. I have following problem: I haven't found out yet how I can change the color of Huggles diffview between versions in the English Wikipedia. It's actually dependent on the monobook.css and on Wikipedia appearance I thought. I'm using the same monobook.css here as in the German Wiki, but for some reason it doesn't have any effect here on Huggle. The monobook.css changes the look of Wikipedia here aswell, however, it doesn't have any effect on Huggles diffview whereas in the German Wiki it has. It's actually this default view which I want to have changed and make it look. I would be very grateful if someone could help me. Thanks, --Avoided (talk) 12:19, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Web app for Mac, Chromebook, Windows Metro?
Is there any chance that Huggle could be recreated as a web app or ported to a web app somehow, so that it would work on a Mac, a Google Chromebook, and Windows 8 Metro? Banaticus (talk) 06:12, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * While I'm no longer active on Huggle development, my understanding is that porting Huggle to a web app (i.e. HTML5 and JavaScript) would be very difficult (although theoretically not impossible). The upcoming Huggle 3 is written in C# and should therefore work on Mac/Linux without modification, but Chromebook/Windows 8 are probably out of the question. Calvin (t·c) 03:08, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * (update) That being said, this does exist. I'm not sure how active development on that is. Calvin (t·c) 06:10, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

"Inappropriate biographical content"
Hi, I made a revert on Edvard Munch using the "inappropriate biographical content" option. However, this links to a WP:BLP notice. Shouldn't the option in Huggle mention "living person" to avoid misunderstandings? Zaminamina Eh Eh Waka Waka Eh Eh 15:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind a warning, Huggle went straight to AIV on me
Excuse me for not bringing this here sooner but thought I would share this after failing to figure what went wrong myself. I saw this edit while using Huggle. Looking back on it, clearly a good faith edit, however the user's inappropriate user name caused me to temporarily believe the action was vandalism, and hastily press the revert/warning button. My mistake, I admitt, but there's more to the story. The resulting action was this revert followed immediately by a report to AIV, despite the fact that the user had no previous warnings, in fact, an empty usertalk page at the time. I have no explanation how this happened. Anyone else? -- Racer X11 Talk to me Stalk me  00:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata integration
Hey guys - I like Huggle (at this time problems with Vista, but seems on my side). Wikidata is growing much. Is an integration for Huggle planned? That would be very fine... Thank you for information, Conny (talk) 09:57, 14 March 2013 (UTC).

Summary wrong
Sorry for my level of english. I use Huggle on the Spanish Wikipedia. When I can revert one edition, warn the user and I choice "edition test", the summary is wrong. For example if I can revert Usuario:Example and the last edition before he was made by "Usuario:Abc" the summary will be: "Revert 1 edit by Usuario:Abc to last revision by Usuario:Example". For example see here. --Santga (talk) 20:50, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3
As it says on the development page for the release "By the end of 2012". Since we're fast approaching that date, any idea when it will come out? Thanks, and Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Whatever §haun   9∞76   ༆  15:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I was wondering the same thing. --<span style='text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD; color:#000;'>Webclient101 talk 02:22, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Well it's now 2013 and I see no Huggle 3. §haun  9∞76   ༆  20:36, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Is there any chance of an update on this. Blethering  Scot  20:00, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Given the inactivity of small dev community, I don't believe we are able to finish huggle 3 any time soon, I am sorry guys, I was hoping more people would join the project, but I couldn't work on huggle much, I hope it's going to be better. Petrb (talk) 12:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * No harm done. The current version 2.1.19 is robust—and fantastic! No worries, no hurries. - DVdm (talk) 17:27, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ... and 2.1.20 now supports ipv6. Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 19:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for the IPv6 support from me too. —S MALL  JIM   23:51, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Oddness in 2.1.20
This revert, the first I did after just upgrading to Huggle 2.1.20, went completely wrong. It should have been a simple revert of the previous IP edit, but the edit summary states that it reverted 2 edits, back to one that was actually 6 edits ago - and in fact it deleted the whole article! This hasn't happened again (yet), but I thought I should record the fact. —S MALL JIM   23:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Update: this hasn't happened again in the 300+ edits I've done with Huggle since, so it looks as if it was related to the upgrade - unwanted retention of cached data, perhaps? —S MALL  JIM   23:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Huggle giving multiple warnings to inactive user
I did a number of reverts to a user that had not been active for two hours. 2:09 22 Jan last one The user was given four warnings here of increasing levels. Can this be fixed? Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 22:13, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, I will create a bug for this, bugzilla is actively watched by developers, unlike this page :( Petrb (talk) 07:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Localization on other wiki
Can anyone teach me how to make a localization on my language wiki, I need to know what the first step. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Calibri (Body),serif; font-style:bold;">&mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 14:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi thank you for helping out. See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization you can just copy paste /en and create a subpage with your language, it will be included with next version. Petrb (talk) 07:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

setting of Huggle's diff colour/monobook.css
Hello. I have following problem: I haven't found out yet how I can change the color of Huggles diffview between versions in the English Wikipedia. It's actually dependent on the monobook.css and on Wikipedia appearance I thought. I'm using the same monobook.css here as in the German Wiki, but for some reason it doesn't have any effect here on Huggle. The monobook.css changes the look of Wikipedia here aswell, however, it doesn't have any effect on Huggles diffview whereas in the German Wiki it has. It's actually this default view which I want to have changed and make it look. I would be very grateful if someone could help me. Thanks, --Avoided (talk) 12:19, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for using huggle, this is because huggle is retrieving (this actually isn't true, but soon will be) only the text of diff, not the rest of html page (right now it gets more than text, but later it cut only certain elements of page) and append own built in style, which is taken from original monobook. This isn't easily changeable, but could be added as a feature to huggle 3 which we are slowly working on. Only way to change this now, is checkout the huggle2 sources from github

$ git clone https://github.com/huggle/huggle.git change the https://github.com/huggle/huggle/blob/master/huggle/Resources/WikiPageHtml.txt file and rebuild it. Petrb (talk) 07:20, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

A problem with Huggle?
See: User_talk:Excirial and User_talk:208.118.165.228 Ottawahitech (talk) 21:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Huggle closing immediately upon opening
Huggle is closing immediately when I open it. This seems to be an intermittent issue. Earlier this afternoon, it was working fine. Yesterday evening, it wasn't. Now, this evening, it isn't, again. I use a mac and WineBottler. Last evening, I was using darWine. #huggle on IRC hasn't been much help at all. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Non-auth
Hello,

I recently got rollback rights (a day or so ago), but Huggle is not letting me log myself onto it, and says something about checking my user configuration page. Can anyone help? Thanks, Dea db eef  (talk)  02:56, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, you need to enable Huggle for this project. Please see this page for instructions. ~  Matthewrbowker  Make a comment! 03:14, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Got it, it's up now. Thanks! Dea db eef  (talk)  03:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Requesting page protection of a user page
Header ======== was generated in stead of ========. I had to manually repair. - DVdm (talk) 21:59, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion - bot-writable IRC feed of priority edits
I run PseudoBot. There are several categories of things that it finds suspicious but does not revert (otherwise-forbidden activity by more established users/otherwise-forbidden activity by users who have already been reverted once/additions of a link to a page that exists but does not mention the relevant year). It might be nice for bots (not just mine!) to be able to write these to an IRC channel (or whatever other mechanism) so that Huggle users could prioritise things that sit in the borderline between "innocent" and "so obviously bad that the bot can revert them". Pseudomonas(talk) 09:21, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Weird reverts
Hi. I've been using Huggle for a while now, and in general it works fine but sometimes strange things happen. A few times Huggle appears to have reverted perfectly fine edits. Also it sometimes fails to notice that the edit was already reverted a few seconds earlier, usually by a Twinkle user. This mostly happens when Huggle is lagging. Is this a known problem or should I suspect there's something wrong at my side?  Yinta n  18:28, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Update: And this afternoon another strange event. Huggle started renumbering warnings. Instead of the usual 1-2-3-4-AIV routine, it went 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4. What's going on here?  Yinta n  17:12, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello? Anybody home?  Yinta n  09:44, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Feature request - keys
A lot of the reverting I do has to do with lack of sources or biased content. Keyboard shortcuts for the different kinds of warnings/reverts (now only clickable by mouse in the dropdown menu) would be handy. There's only Q and R for a 'standard' revert. I'd appreciate -for example- S to revert unsourced edits, B to revert biased edits, etc. This way the reverting goes faster and easier, and the editor gets the appropriate warning. You get the idea. Thanks,  Yinta n   09:53, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I support the idea. I didn't know there were shortcuts to revert edits at all; I'm a new Huggler (and rollbacker). Yeah, keyboard shortcuts for making different kinds of reverts (and warnings or block requests that might follow) would surely be appreciated. Sometimes it's annoying to click on that button every time and select the appropriate option.  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * A me-too to this one. It's fiddly having to do the drop-down-selection dance for "revert test edits", or "revert and then give a template warning for unnecessarily-changing-between-varieties-of-english", compared to the ease of just hitting Q. I guess that last one would mean allowing users to set custom shortcuts? Pseudomonas(talk) 13:51, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Bug
I'd like to report this bug I found while using Huggle 2.1.20: ObjectDisposedException: Cannot access a disposed object. Object name: 'WikiTextBox'. at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateHandle at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.CreateHandle at System.Windows.Forms.Control.get_Handle at Huggle.WikiTextBox.HighlightDone(String Result) at Huggle.Highlight.HighlightRequest.HighlightDone(Object SourceObject) Any ideas on what this is? Thanks! -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 08:06, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions
There's a typo in one of the "Reverted by" summaries.

"Reverted edits by X (talk) identified as personal attack on another user" should be changed to "Reverted edits by X (talk) identified as a personal attack on another user." (Notice the "a.")

Also, to make it sound better, maybe change "on" to "toward" or "towards"? This part is just a suggestion, though. - Amaury (talk) 18:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅. -- (T) Numbermaniac (C) 02:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I actually went ahead and changed that on Monday. I also just made some other small improvements, but if you or anyone else disagrees, feel free to revert and / or let me know. - Amaury (talk) 23:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Huggle hanging and displaying error message
After being away from Huggle for about a week, I came back to it yesterday and had some problems. When I open it and log in, it will fill up the queue, and when I click on an article the program will hang. Eventually it will display the following error message:

OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. at System.String.ConcatArray(String[] values, Int32 totalLength) at System.String.Concat(String[] values) at Huggle.Misc.HtmlToWikiText(String Text) at Huggle.Processing.ProcessDiff(Edit Edit, String DiffText, BrowserTab Tab) at Huggle.Requests.DiffRequest.Done at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)

If I click "Continue" it will work for a bit, and then hang again. I'm using version 2.1.20 on Windows 7. ... disco spinster   talk  20:02, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing a probably related issue which seems to have started today. On load, the first time I press space to show the first revision, the program hangs and does not continue. On my second attempt to kill the program and reload it, it actually hard-froze my entire computer, keyboard, mouse, and all. (ESkog)(Talk) 23:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm suddenly getting an 'unable to login' error. What's going on?  Yinta n   09:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell the login issue is separate to the above insane memory leak. Within about 30 seconds huggle can render your computer totally useless! :D *digging deeper*  ·addshore·  talk to me! 11:57, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know, maybe you're right. All I see is that Huggle won't let me in anymore and I'm wondering if this sudden problem is maybe related to the other sudden problems mentioned above. It's very strange.  Yinta n   14:20, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I have been unable to use Huggle as well (since about 1 June); Huggle starts consuming an insane amount of memory, hangs, and then - depending on the system configuration - either causes the system to hang (notebook, Windows Vista 64-bit), or crashes with an OutOfMemoryException (desktop computer, Windows 7 32-bit). I have reported the bug here. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 17:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I have been wondering: did the Wikipedia API change? E.g. some call that Huggle uses will now return an arbitrary amount of data as long as the application requests them? - Mike Rosoft (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * To add to my 'can not log in' problem: I've reset the computer (Win7 64-bit), my router, reinstalled Huggle, even did a System Restore to a date when Huggle worked, but nothing helps. Huggle (2.1.20) is the problem.  Yinta n   21:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I have made a change to the source (an exe will come shortly) that fixes the massive looping memory leak by reducing the top end limit of the loops (naturally I think there is a better fix but more digging is needed, I imagine it is something to do with the API), as for the loging in issue I have no clue. Do you have any other details Yintan? Does this happen on other wikis?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 21:22, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Can't log in on other wikis either (but then again, I've only got rollback rights here).  Yinta n   21:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I've just 'system restored' even further back (6 months!) and although no software or drivers have been added since, Huggle now does appear to work again. The only difference to my system since then is an update of Spybot S&D but that was 3 months ago when Huggle still worked. Shouldn't make a difference but apparently it does. In short, I'm completely baffled.  Yinta n   22:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Bizarre indeed but glag you can use huggle again :)  ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * For extra (bizarre) clarity: when I restored to a point when Huggle 2.1.20 still worked, it wouldn't log in. When I restored to a point when I wasn't even using Huggle yet, it started working again. Go figure. Also switched to the beta now, which appears to be working fine.  Yinta n   22:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Right, for the memory fix please see this new beta version User:discospinster, User:ESkog, User:Mike Rosoft . I will look into your issue a bit more now Yinta!  ·addshore·  talk to me! 21:49, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Using the beta I am able to log in and start viewing articles with no problem. Will report back after further use. ... disco spinster   talk  21:57, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Cheers, The limit I altered does affect other loops (other than the one that was breaking) so my fix may in turn break other things but lets hope not :) If everyone that uses the beta could report here how long they have used it for and if they saw anything go wrong that would be great!  ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm getting a lot of these in the log: "Debug stop Main.DrawContribs". It's not interfering so far, but I don't know what it means. ... disco spinster   talk  22:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Heh! I am taking a look now!  ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't seem to be able to reproduce this. Is anyone else getting this message? What happens if you restart?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I restarted and it still occurs. ... disco spinster   talk  22:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I have just come across Debug DrawHistory  ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:18, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, I'm getting them too:
 * 2013-06-06 01:20:38 (+03:00) -- Debug stop Main.DrawContribs
 * 2013-06-06 01:20:37 (+03:00) -- Debug stop Main.DrawContribs
 * 2013-06-06 01:20:37 (+03:00) -- Debug stop Main.DrawContribs
 * etcetera....  Yinta n   22:23, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

"title=Barukh Binah&oldid=559415431" title="Barukh Binah">Latest revision as of 16:51, 11 June 2013</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Barukh_Binah&amp;action=edit" title="Barukh Binah">edit</a>) (<a class="mw-thanks-thank-link" href="#" title="Send a thank you notification to this user" data-revision-id="559415431">thank</a>) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Israel-Information&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new mw-userlink" title="User:Israel-Information (page does not exist)">Israel-Information</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Israel-Information" title="User talk:Israel-Information">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Israel-Information" title="Special:Contributions/Israel-Information">contribs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Israel-Information" title="Special:Block/Israel-Information">block</a>)   (Created the page) &#160;&#160;&#160; (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:RevisionDelete&amp;type=revision&amp;target=Barukh_Binah&amp;ids=559415431" title="Special:RevisionDelete">del/undel</a>)  &#160; "  ·addshore·  talk to me! 17:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Right then, I have altered the fix and limit on looping to only restrict the loop where I found the original memory leak (instead of restricting 56ish). Beta 2 of 2.1.21 can be see here :). Again let me know if you see anything odd! ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:30, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That appears to have fixed it. No more 'Main.DrawContribs' in the log.  Yinta n   22:51, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Lovely! If nothing else appears broken in the next 12 or so hours I will release the final version of 2.1.21 :)  ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:52, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I have just uploaded the final build of 2.1.21. Enjoy!  ·addshore·  talk to me! 15:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! ... disco spinster   talk  18:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No Problem :)  ·addshore·  talk to me! 23:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Just a note: the fix seems to have a small side effect of making huggle try to make requests such as a Browser Get

Question
A Question. That is, when we ignore a user, is that user ignored for all his edits, or only for the same session of Huggle? I mean to say, after another session of Huggle, we will have to Ignore him again? Fai zan  11:11, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * When you close Huggle, any editors that you've ignored are added to the shared whitelist which (as far as I'm aware) is retrieved every time Huggle is started. The whitelist used to be hosted on Huggle/Whitelist, but it's now off-site: see the link on that page (warning: the off-site list is very long (nearly 900kB) and is formatted as a html table, so it might freeze your browser). The list used to be cleaned out from time to time, but I'm not sure if it is now. HTH, —S MALL  JIM   11:36, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I got it. Thanks Jim. Fai  zan  11:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly as Jim said above. I also don't think the list has been cleared for a while.  ·addshore·  talk to me! 09:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * So, that means that whenever any Huggler gets tired of some genre rampager and decides to ignore them, they disappear off the radar for all until the whitelist happens to get cleared? - DVdm (talk) 09:41, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes :/, Im not sure if the way the whitelist has changed at all of the years. Potentially the ignore users button only ignores a user for the session and doesn't actually affect the whitelist.  ·addshore·  talk to me! 10:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Whoa, I don't like the sound of that at all.... Time to clear the whitelist, perhaps? Or even better, get rid of it completely. Trusted users can become vandals too.  Yinta n   12:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * To be really sure, I just did an experiment:
 * Renamed my Huggle\Config\Whitelists\en.wikipedia.txt to en.wikipedia.txt.not.
 * Opened and closed Huggle and noticed that en.wikipedia.txt was recreated.
 * Found that there were no differences between both files.
 * Opened Huggle and hit the ignore button for an IP with a sound edit.
 * Closed Huggle and removed en.wikipedia.txt
 * Opened and closed Huggle and noticed that en.wikipedia.txt was recreated.
 * When comparing both files, I noticed that the IP is now in en.wikipedia.txt.
 * Request: can anyone verify whether IP 198.240.128.75 is in your current whitelist before and/or after you have closed your current session?
 * Yep, the IP is in my whitelist.  Yinta n   11:23, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * A really personal whitelist would be perfect, i.e. one that gets stored in ..\Config\Whitelists, and that does not interfere with a general, more tightly controlled list. Perhaps a few extra options to empty the personal list or to one-way re-sync it with the general list would be nice to have. - DVdm (talk) 14:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * How about a global list which contains admins bots rollbackers hugglers and the like which is generated by a server side script. Each user then also has an individual whitelist that is unique to them where they can choose to ignore people?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:08, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I prefer the individual white list. Or a global one that can be switched off (use whitelist? yes/no).  Yinta n   23:25, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It could work! Also I will wipe the whitelist today (keeping a backup of course) just to see what happens, it should rebuild itself rather quickly to begin with including bots etc :)  ·addshore·  talk to me! 10:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

ExceptionRequests.Request.ThreadDone
Note to self ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentException(ExceptionResource resource) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Insert(TKey key, TValue value, Boolean add) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Add(TKey key, TValue value) at Huggle.Misc.ParseUrl(String Url) at Huggle.Requests.BrowserRequest.Done at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone

 ·addshore·  talk to me! 22:59, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Look at that, I just experienced exactly the same thing:

ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentException(ExceptionResource resource) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Insert(TKey key, TValue value, Boolean add) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Add(TKey key, TValue value) at Huggle.Misc.ParseUrl(String Url) at Huggle.Requests.BrowserRequest.Done at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone

 Yinta n  12:19, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I have a feeling this is due to me turning IRC back on for enwiki. As far as I can tell there have been no other side effects and this exception only means you are unable to view the odd diff, i.e. 1/1000. Still, I will try and look for a fix soonish :)  ·addshore·  talk to me! 15:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * It just happened again.  Yinta n   22:19, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * And again, and again. This thing keeps popping up at least once a session. What's best, continue or exit? It doesn't seem to make a difference.  Yinta n   11:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Suspicious.Cloud.7.EP warning
Norton just came up with this warning and refused the download of 2.1.21. Is this a false positive? Nasnema  Chat  12:51, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What exactly did it say?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 12:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * After analysis it said it was not safe, then removed it, then the more details link gave the threat as Suspicious.Cloud.7.EP. It still does. Nasnema   Chat  16:19, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, it appears to be a Norton problem  Yinta n   20:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the links but I have already visited them and concluded that the people with slow computers really do have a problem that is nothing to do with Norton and they probably have this Suspicious Cloud malware. Not a false positive at all for them. Nasnema   Chat  08:22, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What I'm trying to say is that Norton appears to be the only program that gives false 7.EP warnings.  Yinta n   08:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is anything to do with huggle. I have just scanned the most recent version with 47 anti virus programs and 22 anti malware programs and they all return blanks.. Looks like it is just Cloud-7-EP  ·addshore·  talk to me! 09:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Norton has now allowed the download as 'safe'. There you go. I don't know that what I've downloaded is the same code though but hey, it works now. Only a fool ignores warnings in this world. Nasnema   Chat  23:16, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Change "negative" to "controversial"
Even if they are unreferenced, I regret to see edits such as this one where "gay" is considered "negative", however inadvertent. I suggest that "negative" is instead amended to "controversial". WilliamH (talk) 10:37, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Just for context: the vandalism that this diff was reverting (which I've just revdelled) was suggesting that the article subject is gay. I agree with WilliamH that we shouldn't be suggesting that being gay (or other forms of frequent BLP vandalism like claims that a person is a particular religion or nationality) is "negative" but rather "controversial" (although as a gay man I might have a conflict of interest in thinking that being gay isn't negative). Modifying Huggle to make it so that it is "unsourced controversial content" rather than "unsourced negative content" means that this kind of thing won't happen in the future. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


 * And then some vandal calls Tony Blair a childmurderer and the edit gets labeled as "controversial". Just an example. In other words, these templates will never cover every situation perfectly. In general "negative" is more accurate, I think. If we want to get rid of it, then just say "unsourced content". Who cares if it's negative or not, it's unsourced and that alone is reason enough.  Yinta n   10:53, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


 * It is indeed reason enough. But my point still stands. If we are going to label such edits with a measure of contention, then we should do it in the most appropriate way we can. WilliamH (talk) 19:05, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Completely agree; unfortunately, the last time I brought this up, I was told that I could do it myself (without an explanation about how to actually fix it) and the suggestion was "resolved" without any action being taken. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa  (talk) 19:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Whatever we choose, it'll never be appropriate for all occasions. That's why I gave the Blair example. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. My suggestion was to get rid of words like 'negative' or 'controversial' completely. Just have an edit summary that says "unsourced content".  Yinta n   21:22, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Bug 51545 – Allow change patrolling
FYI. --Nemo 16:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

What happened with warnings here?
I placed a here. Tbhotch reverted an edit as usual and Huggle placed an "only warning for vandalism". More info here. -- Neil N  <sup style="font-family:Calibri;"> talk to me  00:05, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

RfC: Are the Category:Wikipedians and its subcategories appropriate for Wikipedia
There is an ongoing RfC going on at Category talk:Wikipedians that readers of this Wikipedian software page may be interested it. Technical 13 (talk) 12:19, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Parallels on Mac?
Has anyone gotten Huggle to run under Parallels on a Mac? I am running XP SP2, I installed .Net 2.0, and when I launch Huggle it crashes and wants to send an error report to Microsoft. Just thought I'd check to see if this was a known working setup before I start bashing my head into a wall. Liv it ⇑ Eh?/What? 19:47, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Huggle for Linux
Hi! How can I use Huggle for Linux using wine or other program? Vitor Mazuco  Talk! 19:21, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I Tried to use this, but I can't use on Fedora. Vitor Mazuco  Talk! 19:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Vitor. As far as I can tell you haven't got rollback rights, so you can't use Huggle anyhow. Rollback is required. Cheers,  Yinta n  22:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I want to use in pt-wiki, but is not this problem. I can't open the huggle. Vitor Mazuco  Talk! 02:08, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I wonder when Huggle is coming for Linux - there hasn't been a commit to github for 2 months and User:Petrb hasn't edited for nearly a month. Things seem stalled... Thanks, Insulam Simia (talk · contribs) 19:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, but how can I use on Debian 7? Vitor Mazuco  Talk! 20:36, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems near to impossible. I tried to install .NET 2.0 on Wine, but the installation failed. Maybe if you are still on 32-bit it might work. Insulam Simia (talk · contribs) 08:57, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

After than I did download of huggle and Wine, when I used terminal it showed this wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\huggle.exe". Vitor Mazuco  Talk! 00:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

bug
When I click "Open in external browser", it will open 50+ tabs in Opera all google searches, which gets google.com/sorry. Some of the urls that it opened when I did this for Dan Meyer (performer). It does this for candidates for speedy deletions. This list of urls it opened in tabs http://www.google.com/sorry/?continue=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Drevision%26sourceid%3Dopera%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26channel%3Dsuggest http://www.google.com/sorry/?continue=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3D%253Ctd%26sourceid%3Dopera%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26channel%3Dsuggest http://www.google.com/sorry/?continue=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Dtitle%3DSpecial:Contributions/Justlettersandnumbers%253Econtribs%253C/a%253E)%253C/span%253E%26sourceid%3Dopera%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26channel%3Dsuggest http://www.google.com/sorry/?continue=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Did%3Dmw-diff-ntitle4%253E%2526160%253B%253C/div%253E%253C/td%253E%253C/tr%253E%253Ctr%253E%26sourceid%3Dopera%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26channel%3Dsuggest http://www.google.com/sorry/?continue=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Dissues%257C%253C/div%253E%253C/td%253E%253C/tr%253E%253Ctr%253E%26sourceid%3Dopera%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26channel%3Dsuggest 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Huggle taking a long time to connect to the feed
Not sure if it's a bug or some problem, however today I can't get Huggle to load, I log in perfectly, with everything configurated. It's taking a long time to connect with the Recent Changes feed. ///Euro Car GT  21:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm experiencing the same thing as well. It seems to be some problem that should hopefully be fixed soon. Lugia2453 (talk) 21:11, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hopefully it will get fixed asap, seems like admins using Huggle seems all good. ///Euro Car  GT  21:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't load anything into the queue, either, and had a similar report on-IRC from another Huggle user.--I dream of horses (T) @ 23:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe their updating to Huggle 3.0? Or it's some other problem. Server, connection issue, API?? ///Euro Car  GT  23:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed, however it's very buggy! ///Euro Car  GT  20:50, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Unable to login...
Hi everyone? I am currently unable to login via Huggle... Is anyone else having problems? :S Please let me know on my talk page? Thank you NGPriest was here ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 14:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's working as normal for me. —S MALL  JIM   15:19, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, hope it works soon...?
 * NGPriest was here ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 15:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No problems here...  Yinta n  21:08, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * hmm, just had a similar report on irc... Is this still happening for you?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 12:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I am having this same issue logging in. I've tried many things and had experienced users walk me through some troubleshooting; all to no avail and I still can not log in.—John Cline (talk) 01:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * NGPriest, are you still having these same problems logging on to huggle?; as of this post, I am.—John Cline (talk) 20:03, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:UAA entries
I'm not a Huggle user myself, but I've been advised that Huggle places new user-reported entires at WP:UAA at the bottom of the list. As a UAA administrator, can I ask that be changed so that new entries go to the top of the list (consistent with manual entries and Twinkle entries)? Thanks. Singularity42 (talk) 14:53, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
produces ; it is deleted in de:WP --91.58.116.177 (talk) 03:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

How to Use Wine on Ubuntu
I can't use Huggle using Wine. I want to know what library I have to install in Wine for I use Huggle? Vitor Mazuco  Talk! 23:42, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Huggle for Bengali Wikipedia?
Could you please enable it for Bengali Wikipedia ( bn.wikipedia.org)??- Jayanta Nath (Talk|Contrb) 11:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please open a bug for this on bugzilla Petrb (talk) 09:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:AIV
As with the UAA Reports, huggle also makes AIV reports at the bottom of the list, which I suspect is also wrong? Kira Chinmoku 15:54, 12 September 2013 (UTC)


 * No, that's actually correct. New entries at WP:AIV go at the bottom of the page.  Yinta n  09:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Well thats just weird Kira Chinmoku  09:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Because?  Yinta n  15:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3 :o
Hi folks, this is just a quick update on the development of huggle 3. If you aren't subscribed to wikitech-l nor huggle mailing list, you probably didn't notice that we decided to switch from c# to c++ and create huggle QT-LX (QT framework / lightweight and extendable) as a main version, I also created WP:Huggle/Huggle3 Beta so that you can watch how the development progress goes... Right now it works better on linux than on windows where python support and ssl support requires some more dependencies... anyway here is a screenshot from windows, as you can notice it contains far less buttons in this moment, but it's already faster than huggle 2 :P Petrb (talk) 07:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)




 * Good luck with the coding! A faster Huggle would be nice. Any chance of more keyboard shortcuts?  Yinta n   15:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There is a chance to have any feature, which is tracked in bugzilla @ https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Huggle Petrb (talk) 15:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)#


 * Nice work - I have been testing this. When will the feature of warning users become available? Insulam Simia (talk · contribs) 16:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I already implemented message system see Message* Core::MessageUser(WikiUser *user, QString message, QString title, QString summary, bool section = true); but in order to do regular warnings you need to know which warning to send, that is complicated calculation, so it's gonna take some time Petrb (talk) 09:05, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Error message
Hi, I got the following bug report message while using Huggle:

ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentException(ExceptionResource resource) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Insert(TKey key, TValue value, Boolean add) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Add(TKey key, TValue value) at Huggle.Misc.ParseUrl(String Url) at Huggle.Requests.BrowserRequest.Done at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone

I hope this helps. :-)

Best Regards -- Marek  . 69  talk 23:13, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Try restarting your computer. Also look at your Huggle.css config page. If your using Huggle 3 Beta, contact User talk:Petrb and report the problem. ///Euro Car  GT  15:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

A user's access
I am very concerned at the way Nasnema is using this tool and responding to people asking them about it (see: User talk:Nasnema). I do not think they should have access if they keep behaving this way. Demon Cat >:3 (meow!) 02:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * That's more a case for WP:ANI, and it's being discussed there. Nasnema has already lost his roll back rights. This page is for comments about the software, not the abuse of it. Kind regards,  Yinta n  11:58, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

translate the tags
Hello, in huggle there are an icon said "Tag this page" and there are many tags in the window , the problem is that all the tags written in english ;now if i use huggle in ar.wiki for example can i translate the name of tags to be for example Template:Original research --> قالب:بحث أصلي ?--ASammour (talk) 17:13, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Click noise
How do I stop Huggle making that annoying little click whenever I select a new edit? I end up having to turn off the sound on the PC altogether which doesn't really help in other things. But that click really really irritates and Huggle doesn't have a 'no sounds' option that I can see. Someone in an archive suggested it was an IE thing but I'm using Firefox?--  &#127866;  Antiqueight  confer 11:36, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Have you checked your Windows sound settings, and tried resetting them to the default? - DVdm (talk) 11:44, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Done and it's still there..(though now a slightly less irritating click than before! But still there)--  &#127866;  Antiqueight  confer 11:59, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * That's it. There's this extremely annoying standard setting that I always immediately turn off on every system that I install. Open Control Panel, Sounds and Audio Devices, tab Sounds, scroll down to Windows Explorer, select Start Navigation, and set it to (None). Try it, you'll love it :-) - DVdm (talk) 12:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh god that's it- That worked. It's gone. THANK YOU!!--  &#127866;  Antiqueight  confer 12:21, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * YAW. They introduced this annoying thing with Windows 98. First I thought there was a problem with my hard disk, as on every opening of a folder in the explorer, there was this tchick sound. It took me a while to figure out that it was a "new feature" in W98 — and how to shoot it. - DVdm (talk) 12:47, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I usually have the sound off because I get those autoplaying things driving me nuts. But recently I had the sound on a lot more for some other things I was playing with and was listening to more music when editing here. And then I got Huggle access and the tchick was driving me nutty. I did wonder if one of the sounds settings would stop it but I really didn't want to go through each one to figure out which one - and I wasn't sure that would work. Now I will get on the more serious task of the various things that don't seem to be working right in Huggle and see if someone can fix those..Or tell me what setting I have wrong that is causing it...   &#127866;  Antiqueight  confer 13:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

So - real huggle questions
When I click on links in the huggle window they don't open - for example I got taken to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki/Atkinson_&_Hilgard%27s_Introduction_to_Psychology which leads to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki/Atkinson_%26_Hilgard%27s_Introduction_to_Psychology which doesn't exist of course..though the first couple of times I proposed deletion for redirects as they seemed to lead to pages that didn't exist....then I noticed the error in the URL.

When I clicked on Mark as patrolled it took me here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/w/index.php?title=St_Albans_RC&action=markpatrolled&rcid=612424989&token=3b3f6048ac3801e5128f135ad6001d16+%22 and again the suggested link of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/w/index.php?title=St_Albans_RC&action=markpatrolled&rcid=612424989&token=3b3f6048ac3801e5128f135ad6001d16+%22 doesn't work.

Some of the tags in the tag page option work fine until you go look at the page in Wikipedia and the tag is red and requesting further information - If I want to tag a page now I open it in Wikipedia and use Twinkle because the tags work there...

Pictures and things like #REDIRECT don't show up right at all - I don't know if they are supposed to but things like that just show up is a box with a red square...

So are these known problems or ignored problems or is there something wrong in my download of Huggle or an update I'm missing?   &#127866;  Antiqueight  confer 22:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Anyone??--  &#127866;  Antiqueight  confer 22:02, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, you are using huggle 2.1.21, which is latest stable build. Can you please report this as a bug to wikimedia bugzilla? (I could probably copy paste your text, but it's always a bit confusing when there is no original creator). To be honest, I doubt this would be swiftly fixed in latest stable, also I didn't fully understand the root cause of problem, you are asking about clicking on links in huggle window (which shouldn't naturally work very well, that is just embedded IE (in huggle 2x) and webkit browser in huggle 3x), but later you are complaining about internal huggle function (mark as patrolled) - or are you clicking on link mark as patrolled in browser window? If it's later, I can ensure you there will be no such links in later versions of huggle (this is partially solved in hg3). Petrb (talk) 16:39, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I shall go to report as you request. I wasn't sure it was a bug and not .. well not a feature but a known limitation..And the mark as patrolled was the link on the page not the Huggle function which I actually had forgotten about. I have a couple of other comments I shall get around to leaving as feedback in another section. Thanks. --  &#127866;  Antiqueight  confer 20:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Error message on loading new pages
When Huggle tries to load a new page (with only one edit) into the queue, I get the following error message:

ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added. at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentException(ExceptionResource resource) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Insert(TKey key, TValue value, Boolean add) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.Add(TKey key, TValue value) at Huggle.Misc.ParseUrl(String Url) at Huggle.Requests.BrowserRequest.Done at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone

Meanwhile the log list says this:

Failed to retrieve 'title=Forever Fairy&oldid=578896583" title="Foreve...': Unknown error

The article itself does not load, so I can't do anything with it, and I can't open it in a browser window in the usual fashion. Any ideas? ... disco spinster   talk  01:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If the article itself doesn't load anywhere it's some mediawiki problem I guess Petrb (talk) 16:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It does load in a browser if I manually search for the article. It's just Huggle that goes berserk. ... disco spinster   talk  17:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Huggle is probably trying to load the previous version of a page for a page that has no previous version (it's a new page). Perhaps it should just check how many edits have occured on a page, or enclose the code that looks for a previous version of a page in some error catcher that just loads the current version of the page? Banaticus (talk) 17:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Any chance of...
... having a downloadable ready-to-run Windows 32-bit executable Huggle3 beta version? I tried to install qt and download the source (what is "git clone"?). Couldn't even tell qt to open the source, let alone build an executble. Ready-to-run would be a lot easier. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 12:43, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Honk honk... anybody reading this? :-) - DVdm (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * git clone is the method of Git that allows one to copy the current version of a repository to one's local computer. Download Git for Windows. I can't speak for the huggle developers, but setting up a system to build it automatically every time there's a change to the code may not be trivial. Pseudomonas(talk) 05:05, 19 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that reply. I'll wait for the release version. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 09:38, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Encouraged by the recently posted youtube video —thanks, Petrb!—, I gave it another attempt. After two hours of downloading 1.78 Gb of zillions of files into a standard (up-to-date) XP SP3 virtual system, I got a large number of Qt-installation errors and a systemdisk that grew from 8 GB to 16 GB, resulting in a VMWare dead stop. I didn't even got to installing Qt on a standard system. Nah, I'll definitely wait for a downloadable 32 bit executable. Over here and as from now, Qt is banned indefinitely, so to speak ;-) - DVdm (talk) 21:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Workaround for OSX Mavericks Qt installation problem for Huggle 3
doesn't seem to work on OSX Mavericks but  does. From https://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/issues/21608#issuecomment-27321514 Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 22:13, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I added it to the page. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 19:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Uhh, not resolved. Why doesn't that work? It works fine for me. Legoktm (talk) 01:34, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle on Linux
Hi, I tried to install Huggle on Ubuntu 13.04 but it fails. The problem is that it detect that I haven't installed the needed packages but they are installed. So I deleted the instruction that check for the installed packages and I succeeded to install it.

I have also noticed a error of the French translation but I don't know how to correct that. Sorry for my english. 92.89.123.3 (talk) 16:44, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You need to provide some logs, regarding translation: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/blob/master/huggle/Localization/fr.txt Petrb (talk) 08:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Make a blank text document?
Why do I have to make a text-based version document myself? Just create one blank version document on a Windows system (possibly include lines saying what version it is, or other information if necessary), and when saved as a .txt document it'll be readable by every other operating system. Windows text documents use a line feed and a carriage return at the end of the line. Unix just uses line feeds, so it'll just look like there's an extra blank line in between each line of text. Macs just use carriage returns, so it'll just look like there's an extra blank line in between each line of text. I don't see why the basic package doesn't already include a text-based version document instead of requiring the reader to create one. I'll be more than happy to use my Windows computer to create a version document and send it in if you'd like. Banaticus (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Because this file is created by a configure script and its content is generated from git internal data. Since windows come with no sane shell that could produce such a file, windows users have to make it by hand. Linux and Mac users do not have to do that. Petrb (talk) 08:29, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3: zhwiki?
Hello, I noticed that zhwiki is not included in the list of projects. Just wondering if zhwiki can simply be added in a later version or if anything is blocking the addition of zhwiki? Thank you. --<span style="font-family: Helvetica-Light, Helvetica, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 110%;">t OMG 02:07, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Only 1 queue is available (this will probably be the way how intial version will work, there is no real need for multiple queues)
I really enjoyed to have two queues in Huggle 2 - one for "vandalism", and the other queue was used either to Huggle edits, new pages or my watchlist. Christian75 (talk) 22:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Inserted to to-do Petrb (talk) 22:24, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Installers for huggle 3
Hi, just want to drop a quick note that installers for ubuntu (ppa) and windows are now available for latest huggle 3x beta version. Please note that these are beta releases - that means


 * Your huggle configuration on wiki (huggle.css) will be destroyed (you can always revert it to previous version by hand)
 * Expect bugs and troubles (but report these we don't know about - check bugzilla for a list)
 * Expect missing features
 * Don't expect and automatic update
 * Keep in mind that both code as well as packages are going to be often updated. So check the download / git frequently and upgrade huggle even if you aren't prompted to do that. If you fail to do that, you can't expect any support for outdated versions / build

Finally, here is where you get them: check the prebuilt packages section here.

Have fun! Petrb (talk) 17:10, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Downloaded and installed huggle_beta_673.exe on a virgin XP3. Installation ran without any problem. Running the application results in error message: Next message:   Reinstall did not fix this problem. Reboot didn't help. Googled a bit, nothing helped. In fact I understood none of the suggestions. - DVdm (talk) 18:59, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yay, ty for catching this, it's a bug in QT https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-28766 anyway, the workaround will be applied in next beta-installer release. This kind of makes the current installer defunct for everyone who doesn't have the qt installed. To fix it, you can either wait for next version, or install qt sdk (you will not need to build huggle, it will magically start working after you do that) Petrb (talk) 19:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ha, that means that I'll wait for the next version, because installing the monster is a definite no-no :-). Thanks! - DVdm (talk) 19:24, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It should be fixed now, let me know if it didn't work Petrb (talk) 08:46, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, downloaded huggle_673_beta.exe. Installer works perfectly now. Thx and cheers - DVdm (talk) 09:45, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Made some tests. Copied entire install folder C:\Program Files\Huggle (90 Mb) to some dropbox folder, and tried to run that from another PC, without installing it there. Result: 100% succes! That means that, in one blow, this is a portable installation. Brilliant. Credit to qt — and to the developers. - DVdm (talk) 12:19, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact the installer doesn't do anything else than creating this folder, links, start menu and uninstaller. Petrb (talk) 12:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle requirements
On the Huggle download page (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Download), it says that .NET framework 2.0 is required. It also says that you have it if you have Win7, Vista, AWB or another .NET program. What about Windows 8? George8211what did I break now? 20:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3 Login Failed
Trying to log in and I get: Login failed: Error downloading https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=login&format=xml - server replied - Service Unavailable ///Euro Car GT  03:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Working now. ///Euro Car  GT  03:54, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Reporting
The option where you could report a user, and you have to tick edits to report to WP:AIV, could their be a select all edits to report the editor.

Interface
Could their be a function where you could change the text from Time New Roman to Arial? ///Euro Car GT  22:45, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

HG3 feedback

 * 1) Huggle should really not be creating a separate section for every warning left on a user's talk page; it makes the talk page much more difficult to read, especially for frequent IP vandals.
 * 2) For anonymous users, Huggle is counting warnings from at least two weeks in the past into the warning series. E.g. if the IP reached level 4 and was blocked two weeks ago, Huggle still thinks they're at level 4 when they edit today. This is much too long, especially for shared IP addresses.  I would say anything older than 48 hours should not be counted as a "current" warning for anonymous users.
 * 3) HG3 needs to do a much better job at tracking later page edits and removing edits from the queue when they're no longer the top revision. HG2 does this automatically.  It's a big waste of time to evaluate an edit and determine "yeah, that's vandalism" only to find out it's already been reverted.
 * 4) Is the automatic block-instead-of-report feature not working yet? I get the popup that the user has already reached level 4, asking if I want to report them -- but I'm an admin, so I don't want to report them, I want to block them. There doesn't appear to be an easy way to do so.

&mdash;Darkwind (talk) 18:25, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Implementing #4 and #1 now (did #1 before erroneously and couldn't be bothered to redo it properly, but seeming now someone has complained about it - I'll get to it). #2 can fixed by setting template-age in your user config to -2 (I'll implement this in preferences as well for sake of easiness). My name is not dave (talk/contribs) 18:52, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * #1 is already implemented, just not finished, there is bool Message::KeepSection, setting it to true and providing an existing section should append message to this section, but it's very much untested and disabled by default.
 * #2 This can be changed by user, just open your huggle.css and change template-age to some higher value, for example -2 will consider templates old max 2 days.
 * #3 This is going to be implemented, but likely disabled by default. Removal of edits that are not latest edits make it easy to overlook vandals. If there are two vandals from 2 IP addresses, working on same article, you end up reverting to previous vandalism if huggle did as you say. Users will be able to change this behaviour later.
 * #4 No, because the block feature wasn't tested much. I blocked myself using it, but that was only test so far :-). If you feel like a guinea pig, feel free to test if that feature works and we can easily implement this. Thanks for your feedback and keep testing ;) Petrb (talk) 21:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi guys,

In terms of item 3 - more recent edits - I had a similar annoyance to Darkwind but I can see the point about overlooking vandals. I think the solution to this is to detect when the edit is no longer top and then highlight this to the user and enable the user to flick back and forward between the edits to see if it's all been dealt with.

If you want to be really clever, you could also make Huggle detect when the suspect edit gives a null edit when combined with the later edits. If this is the case then it is probably safe to assume that it was vandalism but it has been dealt with, and so remove it from the queue.

I would probably implement with the "highlighting and flicking" idea first because it's probably easier to implement and will deal with more cases.

Yaris678 (talk) 22:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I made the current revision be bold in history list. So now it's rather easy to figure out if you are on last revision or not. Petrb (talk) 10:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thanks.  That seems like a sensible solution.
 * How do you feel about the idea of removing the edit from the queue if it and the following edits give a null edit when combined?
 * Yaris678 (talk) 20:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That is something I am working on, but I am not very successful so far. I can't do what you want because huggle doesn't retrieve the content of revisions, but only a diff (which is in some nasty format provided by mediawiki) there is little chance to compare 2 diffs to figure out if they revert the same change, because of extra formatting of each diff. What I am doing now (there is that new option in preferences) is that if there was a revert done to a page, all edits older than this revert which are in queue, should be removed from it. This isn't very reliable though, hence it's opt-in feature Petrb (talk) 15:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.
 * Perhaps this is where I show my lack of knowledge about how Huggle works... Could you make it so that when an article in the queue is edited, Huggle asks the API for the diff between the version in the queue and the latest version? If a null diff is returned then you know to remove the item from the queue.
 * Yaris678 (talk) 18:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Revert results in warning the wrong user about the wrong article.
With beta version 704, this revert was accompanied by a warning on another ip's talk page about this edit to another article. Hard to undo but undone now. Nasty. - DVdm (talk) 09:31, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note - By the way, I wanted to select "Editing tests", but I did not get the chance to select that. Touching the button did not produce the selection menu. It immediately reverted as standard vandalism. Where's that arrow to open the selection menu? Found that tiny little arrow, it guess it's that black 2x2 pixels dot. Way to small, hardly visible and bound to produce accidents. Can it—at least optionally—be replaced with the old style arrow-next-to-button? - DVdm (talk) 09:35, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That's the QT style drop down menu, I have no powers to change it, because this is purely QT matter, anyway - this is not how it works, you can't click it, to display the drop down you need to push and hold the button. You can click anywhere on it, not just the small arrow icon Petrb (talk) 15:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * But I admit it's very confusing, even for me it was :-) if someone find out how to change it, let me know or fix it Petrb (talk) 15:48, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is, and not only confusing, but also very dangerous, specially when you want to undo a—perhaps good faith—test or unsourced edit, and you end up giving a vandalism edit summary and warning. Perhaps there's an undocumented delay property for this object? Otherwise a second button on the right of the current one (with an explicit menu) should obviously do the trick. Same goes of course for that other button to revert without warning. DVdm (talk)
 * NEVER use revert and warn for good faith edits, use "Revert assuming good faith" feature (menu page) - that one doesn't increase badness score of user Petrb (talk) 09:52, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course it does, that's why there is that big warning on WP:Huggle/Message telling huggle 3 users to use only version 706 or newer. This is known, fixed bug. Petrb (talk) 15:43, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, a few minutes after this incident, I noticed you offered version 706. - DVdm (talk) 17:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible bug with the "Restore this revision" function in Huggle 3
I tried to use the "Restore this revision" function in Huggle 3 on Specialized High Schools Admissions Test after seeing multiple IPs vandalize it, but instead of going back to the revision I wanted to go back to properly, I instead got this. I don't know if this is already a known bug, or if it's my fault that it happened due to me doing something wrong when using the function, but if it isn't a known bug and it's not my fault it happened, this is a report of it. I like Huggle 3 so far from my beta testing of it, but this is just a bug I noticed. Lugia2453 (talk) 22:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: I was using build 706 when this happened. I noticed after this happened that you're offering build 713, so I don't know if it's already fixed or not if it was a known bug from that build. Lugia2453 (talk) 23:05, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes it was a bug and it was fixed, but I think 713 doesn't have the patch yet, don't use it now it wasn't tested much Petrb (talk) 09:06, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Huggle3 - Feedback
Before mentioning anything else: The new V3 of Huggle is definitely an impressive piece of software and a step forward from V2. Version 2 works just fine, but V3 simply outperforms it by an order of magnitude - i suppose this will be as close to instant reverts as we can get. Also, native linux support and no longer needing IE is a good thing.

Suggestions

 * Once a user reaches warning level 4, Huggle will ask to report the user. Since the report window seems to work quite well for checking a users edits a block button on the form would be a nice addition.
 * This form shouldn't be even displayed to admins in future, instead block user form should be Petrb (talk) 09:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, the current setup is quite practical. Before blocking an editor a check of his or her edits is necessarily since there is always a small possibility that the editor was incorrectly or insufficiently warned. Originally i had to open a browser tab for this and load multiple edits manually. The reporting form allows me to do this inside Huggle itself, which is a definite improvement. If anything, my vote would be to retain the reporting form along with the newly added block button (Thanks for that one, by the way!) Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 20:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hindi characters are not rendered correctly (replaced by blocks). An example would be Shridhar University.
 * Works to me... What OS? Petrb (talk) 09:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Windows Vista, SP 2. The font pack is availible on the system, and standalone browsers (Firefox, IE and Chrome) work just fine. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 14:08, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The diff view in Huggle seems to create a horizontal scroll bar every now and then, sometimes up to the point where the second edit is squished to single word width(Or entirely offscreen). Even if a scrollbar is not present the variable width of the edits in the diff window cause the center of the diff to move around. As a result one has to look all over the screen while checking edits which is rather unpractical. It would be nice if the available display space was split in two even sections that would each contain an edit.
 * This requires someone skilled in CSS to fix it. Petrb (talk) 09:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Ctrl + Space no longer seems to clear the queue. Not exactly a problem, but it was a handy feature from time to time.
 * ✅ Petrb (talk) 09:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Also, keep up the great work! Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:40, 4 December 2013 (UTC)