Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 6

Bug 3 - Preloading of diffs
Status: INVALID - meaning of preload function was mistaken.

Going to "System"->"Options"->"General" - "Enable preloading of diffs (1-5)" and choosing "5" doesn't works. Every time I see any diff, it shows only 2 edits (2 little colored boxes).
 * No, preloading refers to when huggle preloads the diff so when you actually ask for it huggle already has the diff and doesn't need to send a request to the WMF servers asking for the diff, slowing things down. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 1 - Disable Ignore all contributions by this user
Option in Huggle/Config to disable "Ignore all contributions by this user" to all Huggle users - only to prevent users using that button on specific editors and adding them to White List. I'm not suggestion to disable Huggle to automatically add users with at least 500 edits (that is already possible in Huggle configuration page). Just Huggle users. This way we can prevent bad faith users that do good edits (just to "show"), and add him selfs to the list or other bad faith users (like I said previously in Huggle/Feedback/Archive 9 - Huggle/Feedback/Archive 6 section). I know I can disable that in "my" Huggle, but I can't prevent others users to use that button.


 * Implemented in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 13:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Archiving soon  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont  08:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 5 - Diffs already seen
If I see 1 diff/edit from the queue "Filtered changes", for example, then see another one. Next I change "Filtered changes" to "All pages" queue, I see again the previous diff I saw on the other queue. I think It shouldn't be there. If I saw it previously, I don't need to see it again.


 * The only problem is we don't have a way to keep track of which diffs you've already seen. If the queue updates quickly, like on here, the problem fixes itself. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, Huggle does keep track of which diffs have been viewed, it just doesn't show this information to the user -- Gurch (talk) 08:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Archiving due to nofix/wontfix.  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 08:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * An option to do this for a particular queue is implemented in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug: Full cache on IE 8
I'm using IE 8 (with IE7 emulated). I spotted an issue this morning, where Huggle would crash repeatedly. While using gmail later, I got a message that the Cache was full (first time I encountered that message). So i cleared the cache and restarted Huggle. and it worked.

I guess one of the devs may want to build an error handler for this.

Cheers ChiragPatnaik (talk) 10:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm I also get this error when I use AWB but never when I use huggle :S  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 08:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this is acctualy just a general bug with the size of your cache. Try increasing the size.  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 08:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Global config page on Meta needs protection
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, but shouldn't the global configuration page on Meta be protected from editing by non-administrators? I find this to be a potential issue if some vandal or other malicious user comes along and decides to disable huggle on ALL projects, as it seems like I can easily do it myself right now. &mdash; Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) 02:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Then request protection on the page :) - only problem is then Gurch can't edit it ... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The page has been protected there, and I have requested temp-adminship on meta, so at least 1 developer can edit it. Soxπed93 (blag) 22:11, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I see no reason for it to be protected >.<. Only should be protected if and when something happens.  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 08:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well as this has now been protect i see no reason to keep this discussion here (archiving)  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 08:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Huggle Warning Report
COMException: Die angeforderte Ressource wird bereits verwendet. (Ausnahme von HRESULT: 0x800700AA) bei System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IWebBrowser2.Navigate2(Object& URL, Object& flags, Object& targetFrameName, Object& postData, Object& headers) bei System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.PerformNavigate2(Object& URL, Object& flags, Object& targetFrameName, Object& postData, Object& headers) bei System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.PerformNavigateHelper(String urlString, Boolean newWindow, String targetFrameName, Byte[] postData, String headers) bei System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_Url(Uri value) bei System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_DocumentStream(Stream value) bei System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_DocumentText(String value) bei huggle.Processing.DisplayEdit(Edit Edit, Boolean InBrowsingHistory, BrowserTab Tab, Boolean ChangeCurrentEdit) bei huggle.Processing.ProcessDiff(Object PreloadDataObject, BrowserTab Tab) bei huggle.Requests.DiffRequest.Done(Object CacheDataObject)

Huggle recently opened a dialogue where it told me to report this issue; note that the description is in German please move this to the right section since i don't know where to post this .Alexnia (talk) 09:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Added here  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 08:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Translation: "The resource is already in use" -- Gurch (talk) 19:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Href=
Hello, I'm a native speaker of spanish, I can't speak english very well, my problem is this:

When I revert to 2 or more versions ago the actual version the summary is this:Reverted 2 edits by David0811 and Href= to last version by Href= but Href= not exists on the spanish wikipedia.Cheers David0811 12:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by David0811 (talk • contribs)
 * It happens on portuguese Wikipedia too. This was previously reported in section. —Mosca (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Reported above (archiving)  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 08:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Bug report
When trying to use the custom revert feature, I got this:

StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 14:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Added to google code bug reports here  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 08:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Huggle hangs and crashes on "Logging in"
Huggle isn't loading properly for me. Hangs at "Logging in" and then eventually crashes. – xeno  ( talk ) 14:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not having the problem, so I can only suggest one thing: if you happen to have Microsoft Visual Studio 2008, run the application in debug-mode and figure out for yourself what's wrong... unless you already know? Oh, and what do you mean by "crash"? Does login fail, application stop responding, you get an error message? That's kind of important.. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 16:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Shows "Logging in" for about 3-5 minutes and then :

huggle has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

EventType : clr20r3    P1 : huggle 0.7.12.exe     P2 : 0.7.12.0 P3 : 4894701a    P4 : system     P5 : 2.0.0.0     P6 : 4333ae87     P7 : 221d P8 : 88    P9 : system.net.webexception


 * does that help at all ? – xeno  ( talk ) 17:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * After doing a search on it it seems that error code is some sort of exception notice... there isn't much anything you can do, we just need to get it fixed... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, the part of the error message that actually says what went wrong (what kind of exception occurred) appears to be at the end, so if you could paste all of it in...? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ – xeno  ( talk ) 18:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Do you actually have the .NET Framework v2 installed (just checking)? And if so, is it fully up to date? —<font face="Trebuchet MS"> Ree dy  18:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be installed (would have to be for AWB, no?), but maybe not fully up to date. checking now... –  xeno  ( talk ) 18:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if you've got/can use AWB, its installed =) —<font face="Trebuchet MS"> Ree dy  18:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Repairing the installation just in case. I'm wondering if it's this ridiculously overbearing content filtering they've got setup here. Huggle doesn't need to check or access any pages with the word "sex" "hotmail" "xxx" (etc) in them, does it? – xeno  ( talk ) 18:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not starting up no (unless of course someone vandalized one of the config pages?)... and I've never heard of huggle getting a System.net.webexception exception before... (apparently that's what's going on) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It gets them whenever there's some kind of error with a web request, but they're all caught and handled (or at least I thought they were) -- Gurch (talk) 19:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 6 - Mouse buttons and history
Now we can see 2 consecutive edits (diff) in any part of "history bar" just clicking with left mouse button on the little colored boxes; and we can see diffs between any previous edit and the last one, using the right mouse button. We should be able to see between any previous edit and any other non consecutive edit (and not the last one). This is useful for some types of cases where we have to check vandalism edits mixed with good edits. Since left mouse button and right mouse button already have actions, may be clicking "shift" + "right mouse button" could do this suggested action.
 * ✅ in next version (0.7.13) - click and drag with left mouse button. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 14:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Portuguese Wikipedia 2
In Suggestions sections, some of them may be not very important or Huggle already have them. I'm still testing it. Note: if one of you want to test Huggle in portuguese Wikipedia, please change congif page, since at this moment you must have 2000 edits and an account with 180 days to use Huggle. It's just a temporary measure chosen by me for precaution. When Huggle is fully functional and tested I will discuss with portuguese community to choose the best configurations/requirements. Sorry for creating so many sections, but is better to discuss each one.

I'm using version 0.7.12 Didn't change anything in "System" -> "Option", except "Enabling preloading of diffs" witch I have "5" and not "2" by default (anyway doesn't works - ).
 * All of the below reports have now been split under their own level 2 headings. This will make them easier to archive latter once compete and will tidy this page up a bit.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 08:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Questions
This is really not very important, just curiosity.
 * Huggle can miss some edits? (like in User:Lupin/Anti-vandal_tool) I mean: someone make an edit, and it doesn't show in Huggle in "All pages" for example. In normal situations of course, not in case of an Huggle error or Wikimedia servers.
 * When it was released version 0.5 to the public? January 2008?
 * Why "Huggle" name?

Mosca (talk) 03:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 1.)If in "All Changes" mode, it will show you every single edit, including bot edits, etc. Huggle retrieves the IRC recent-changes feed, not the RSS feed that other tools use. Because it uses the IRC feed, it can get every edit live, and not sampling it every 30 seconds like other tools 2.) Not sure, but around that time 3.) The creator, User:Gurch, made up the name. There's a more detailed explanation somewhere in this page's archives. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 7 - anonymous icons

 * Bot icons (little boxes) have "B" on them; anonymous users could have "IP" on them.
 * They already have their own special color, so I see no reason to modify, except possibly to add a little 'a' perhaps to their blob, like bots. But they do already have their own color. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 14:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 9 - Icons meaning
Don't know if this is important, since this may be useful only to beginners I think.

Option "Show icons meanings" (or something like that) similar to "Show Log" in interface but in right side. It's like showing Image:Huggle-interface-4.png in Huggle. Following icons are just examples (didn't found Huggle icons in commons).

Users Trusted user Reverted user Page Page blanked Page redirected ... ...

This should occupy the smallest space possible and could have an option in menu to show/hide like menu "System"->"Show log"


 * Users are expected to read the manual/instructions thoroughly before using huggle. You might as well just have the link go to the Huggle instructions/manual page. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 10 - Interface
I made a sketch to propose an improved (I hope) interface by reorganizing strategically some buttons for a better Huggle usability. In the beginning (and now sometimes) I was a little lost to know instantly the meaning of buttons. Some I know, others I have to see ALT text. I know is a question of time to learn, and is more fast using keyboard shortcuts, but reorganizing buttons could improve Huggle. See http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Mosca.png
 * In that image, on "first line" (interface top) we have page-related buttons.
 * In the "second line" we have user related buttons. As the first button is used for both, it occupies both lines.
 * "third line" is for buttons related to queue and tabs. May be these aren't on best place. "+" and "-" buttons could be really in tabs. By the way, I forgot to put 2 buttons that we see when we have a lot of tabs to navigate them. Those buttons could be in the right side, next to "+" and "-".
 * I removed "Cancel pending actions" and "Undo recent actions" since I think they are rarely used and should be in menus (didn't found on them). Or at least should be on Log (interface bottom) left side, but could not be easy to implement that. Any way its just a first sketch, I made another one very different but is not finished.
 * Since most of the time we're dealing with fixing bugs, adding features, etc, we don't have much time to make things look pretty... and I have the slightest feeling Gurch put the buttons where they are for a reason (800x600 usability, etc.) - so I doubt we're going to have an interface redesign right now... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 10 - Huggle translation
We should be able to translate all Huggle interface (menus, text in "options" window, etc.)
 * Huggle was originally made for English Wikipedia, and really is only meant for use on here, but Gurch did say he might translate the interface if he had the time... so I suppose we should. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The actual making the ap say different stuff is easy (in my opinion) but then doing the translation is hard.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 18:59, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Feature request
I wish to see the "All changes" queue to be sorted like the "Filtered changes" queue, where the higher risk edits are sorted more towards the top, rather than it just scrolling constantly. Is there any way to do that, or is it not possible?Vandalism destroyer (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes there might be an option / way to do this and hopefully there is no reason not to. But we probably also want to keep one version of the queue like the current all pages so we will probably have a config setting for it.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 08:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have added this to the google code bug tracker here. Check there for update.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 07:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This is implemented in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

MfD handling
When nominating pages for MfD, Huggle successfully completes the proces, but will display a red 'in-progress' action in the 'change log' at the bottom. StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 13:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Added to google bug tracker here. Check there for future updates.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 08:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 14:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. I cannot reproduce this with the most recent development version, so it should be fixed. I have found a number of other problems with the handling of MfD nominations which are now also fixed -- Gurch (talk) 13:46, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

3RR
I'm not sure if it would be possible, but it would be a nice feature to have Huggle handle 3RR-violation reports. StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 14:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that's a good idea. Apart from 3RR violation, how about maybe to give the user a message when they try to make more than 3 reversions to an article within a 24 hour period? Chamal    Talk 14:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The three-revert rule does not apply to reversions of vandalism -- Gurch (talk) 17:39, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's just that I use Huggle to handle my XfD and inappropriate username reporting too, it saves a lot of time. And sometimes I come across 'bad editing', which doesn't really constitute vandalism, but is almost just as bad. StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 11:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's actually a 'may' isn't it? WP:3RR doesn't say that reverting vandalism is exempted from 3RR, but is a 'possible exception'. Doesn't that mean if it isn't 'blatant' vandalism, we'll be in trouble? Chamal    Talk 12:17, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I have rewritten the policy to clarify this -- Gurch (talk) 13:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Archiving  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 18:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * This is implemented in the next version --Gurch (talk) 09:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Looping
Whenever I click on several items in the queue in quick succession, such as trying to clear the queue manually without pressing Ctrl + Space, the articles I have clicked on seem to keep reloading in a looping fashion. It's strange, clearly I'll use Ctrl + Space in future but it's an interesting bug. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 18:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * And thank you for fixing it! —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 20:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

DMOZ
Does this bot thing delet links to dmoz? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links#Links_to_be_considered


 * They wouldn't be deleted unless the link is irrelevant or inappropriate. And huggle is not a bot, it's just a normal application that can be used by Wikipedia users for dealing with vandalism. Chamal    Talk 02:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

New WP:HUG page?
I have created a redesign of WP:HUG at User:Soxred93/Huggle. Some differences include...


 * Some info on how it works
 * Some general rules
 * List of supported wikis
 * Guide on how to use it on separate page
 * Split /Feedback into the talk page, /Bugs, and /Requests.
 * Infobox
 * Icons in header

What do people think of this new design? Soxπed93 (blag) 08:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally think /Bugs and /Requests (assuming that means feature requests) should be on the same page for organizational "keeping everything together" reasons, but other than that I think it's great. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And what I said previously is almost exactly what Calvin said :P  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 08:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Does anyone else have anything to say about this?  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont
 * Hmm, yeah, I support making the talk-page a separate page from /Feedback. The guide could possibly be improved upon, and a cool addition would be an essay on the merits /pro & cons of Huggle. I personally think we should commit the improvements now and make changes as they are suggested. That's how a wiki works, after all. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see why Bugs and Feedback need to be one page. It seems more organized to have general discussion, problems, and suggestions all on separate pages. Soxπed93 (blag) 01:45, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I was Bold and implemented it. If you see any problems, feel free to fix them. Soxπed93 (blag) 03:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Looking good so far. I'm just going around updating some stuff.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 07:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a thought but should we keep the bugs and request page archiving to the feedback pages also? This would be how we did do it and in my mind it would keep things tider.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 07:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What...Gurch just removed the infobox, now it looks nothing like I had imagined. Pretty much all that's changed is the header, now .  Soxπed93 (blag) 22:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Strike that, the header was also removed. So now it seems that only the guide is different. Soxπed93 (blag) 22:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Infobox = back. Not sure what problem Gurch has with the header looking pretty though :P Calvin 1998 (t-c) 23:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Reporting?
Why am I unable to report users to WP:AIV through Huggle? I am not prompted to make a report, nor is it done automatically. In addition, the "report" button as shown in the Huggle documentation does not exist in my version, and the "B" shortcut doesn't work. Is there something I don't know here? I've been using Huggle forever and haven't noticed this until now. Thanks. JSpung (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Everyone appears to be having the same problem. The last Huggle report to AIV was about 7 hours ago. THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 17:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * fixed--Gurch (talk) 20:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Reporting is still not an option, at least in my version. Is it just me? JSpung (talk) 23:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * When I reverted an edit by User:204.52.179.199, huggle told me "Didn't warn 204.52.179.199 because they already have a final warning". But it didn't report the user to WP:AIV. When I checked the talk page, I noticed that the final warning had been issued yesterday, and after that two new level 1 warnings had been issued. Chamal    Talk 14:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Happened again when after reverting edits by User:69.39.131.242. Huggle did not report, although it detects a final warning. However, there were no other messages issued afterwards, as in the earlier one. Chamal    Talk 15:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This is exactly what is happening to me. Huggle acknowledges that a final warning has been given, but won't report. Chamal (or anyone else): Does your version of Huggle respond to the "B" keyboard shortcut to report, or feature the "Report" button as shown [here]? JSpung (talk) 16:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * seems to keep breaking when the config is edited (though the development version is fine). should be fixed again now --Gurch (talk) 19:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Working for me. Thanks. JSpung (talk) 22:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Huggle not signing some warnings to talk pages
After getting warned for not signing my posts, I found this and this and this. Is anybody else having this problem? --Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok well they are test warnings levels 1,2 and 3. Ill take a look into the source tommorw or latter today. At least sinebot is keeping up ^^  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 21:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be great if this is happening to anyone else and they could give us some more diffs and maybe tell us which buttons they were perssing :)  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 09:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should just remove autosigning from Huggle itself, and just the subpages.  Soxπed93 (blag) 01:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Would have to get the timming right with the release of the next version though and make sure all templates on all wikis were done. e.t.c  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 08:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe a sign=yes parameter? Soxπed93 (blag) 22:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds idea but I wouldn't be able to do this. I'm not that good yet ^^  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 07:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * On a similar note, anyone noticed that when issuing a level 4 warning, Huggle only adds two ? See this example, happened to me just now...  So Why  21:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 13:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Portuguese Wikipedia
Thanks for letting us at Portuguese Wikipedia use this great tool. Please tell me where are the following messages to translate them: I didn't found those messages in pt:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config and Huggle/Config.
 * Reverted 2 edits by xxx and xxx to last version by xxx (usando Huggle)
 * Reverted 1 edit by xxx to last version by xxx (usando Huggle)

I would like to translate Huggle interface to portuguese, is that possible? Mosca (talk) 15:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the edits with those messages aren't rollback; and are hard-coded. I'll see if they can be configurable (see ) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * These message can be changed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bugs

 * I found an error in this example (look at edit summary: Href= is not a user). It happens sometimes wen I try to revert consecutive edits by 2 or 3 different editors (not specific editors, just anyone). I'm using version 0.7.12 Mosca (talk) 03:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK... that shouldn't be happening. I don't think that's a huggle problem, so I'm going to leave this here until someone else sees this. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See -Mosca (talk) 03:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * With pt:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config settings, Huggle adds automatically 1 user with less than 500 edits which I ignored in Hoggle (clicked in "Ignore this user" button) - the other user is a bot. According to documentation, it is supposed to be ignorer per-session basis and not permanent in White List (unless he has more than 500 edits or is a bot), right? Mosca (talk) 17:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, if it's got more than 500 edits, it's added to watchlist (doesn't need to be ignored by you); if you ignore it and it's a user, it's added to the whitelist no matter if it's got 500 edits or not. If you ignore an IP address, it's only ignored for the session. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand. That is great but what if someone use Hoggle in bad faith only to White List himself or someone else? If I put the code  in pt:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config, it means users using Hoggle must be some way approved? If so that could be the solution to avoid this type of bad faith users. If not, is there any solution to not let those bad faith users White listing other users? Mosca (talk) 19:02, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you put  into the config, it means only the people on that list can use Huggle. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for asking too many questions but I have to have shore: you mean approved users to use Huggle must be in pt:Wikipedia:Huggle/Users and not pt:Wikipedia:Huggle/Whitelist, right? Mosca (talk) 19:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Forget. I saw Huggle/Configuration. Didn't saw it. Sorry. Mosca (talk) 19:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * If I click on "revert" button and choose "Other summary" and put in summary one external link blocked on pt:MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist, Huggle doesn't do nothing, not even informs me. The edit to revert was this one and I putted in summary  VDA de http://www.colegiosaofrancisco.com.br/alfa/mulher-gucci/gucci.php . Didn't work. I figure out wen I tryed to to that manualy in my browser and it showed it was blocked by spam filter. Then I tried to revert again on Huggle, but with summary  VDA de www.colegiosaofrancisco.com.br/alfa/mulher-gucci/gucci.php  (note:without http://). It worked. Hoggle should inform user about this. At portuguese wikipedia we use that to inform copyrights violations on some pages. Mosca (talk) 17:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It is now being worked on (hopefully), see here for any progress. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This is fixed in the next version.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont
 * These have always been in the config

manual-revert-summary:Reverted edits by $1 to last version by $2

rollback-summary:Reverted edits by $1 to last version by $2

rollback-summary-unknown:Reverted edits by $1 undo-summary:Undoing own edit
 * OI hope this explains itself. manual-revert-summary: is a revert not using rollback. If the pt wiki doesn't have it in the config just add it :)  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 10:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see the Reverted $2 edits by $1 to last version by $3 message in there though. That's the one that's messing up. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Calvin 1998 is right. I've alreathy translated those messages. The others I can't translate. Mosca (talk) 03:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This message can be localized in the next version --Gurch (talk) 09:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Error on creating new filtered changes
Tried to create a new filtered changes, called 'New'. Pressed Enter and recieved the following error:

(snipped KeyNotFoundException in huggle.QueueForm.get_CurrentQueueSource)

I suspect it has something to do with the already-present 'New pages' filtered changes list, but I don't know. Any ideas? —<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2px">Cyclonenim <font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">T@lk? 18:09, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wheres this (anyone? i dont use Huggle really).. Chances are it'll be a bug for me rather than Addshore —<font face="Trebuchet MS"> Ree dy  18:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's somewhere in Huggle.QueueForm (a KeyNotFoundException), specifically, get_CurrentQueueSource, Queues_SelectedIndexChanged, _Lambda$__127(Object a0, EventArgs a1), Rename_Click, and/or _Lambda$__142(Object a0, EventArgs a1) . At least that's what the error reporter would have you think... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug 4 - Namespaces
Having in preferences "Show contributions from namespaces:" - "Article" selected only, I see in some queues (at least in "Filtered changes" and "All pages" queues), pages from others namespaces like "Usuário", "Usuário_Discussão", "Categoria", "Anexo", "Predefinição".


 * The namespace names are localizable in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug 5 - Others namespaces
Some projects have customized namespaces that are not shown in Hoggle (although I can see edits on them because of previous bug 4). In portuguese Wikipedia, for example, we have "Anexo" namespace (number 102) and "Anexo Discussão" (number 103), used only for "lists" (i.e. "List of carriers", "list of Operating Systems"...) since they aren't actually encyclopedia articles. Those namespaces should be shown in "Preferences" - "Show contributions from namespaces:"
 * Is there a list of name spaces on each wiki with their ID. If so then this should be relatively easy to do.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 08:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Additionaly namespaces can be added to the configuration in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug 7 - Icons
"Page blanked" icon (little box) is not showing on page blanked edits in Portuguese Wikipedia. May be because we use another text (see pt:MediaWiki:Autosumm-blank). The others icons for "Page content replaced" (w:pt:MediaWiki:Autosumm-replace) and "page redirected" (w:pt:MediaWiki:Autoredircomment) are not shown too.
 * This appears to be a valid report. Easy to fix of course, we simply need to program huggle to recognize the text in all the other languages (or maybe we just make it a config option). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * These messages are localizable in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug 9 - User contributions
Most of the time, clicking "contributions" to see all user contributions, doesn't works. I'm still figuring out witch situations it works. In "Requests" window, it shows me the "get action" for that was done but I can't see contributions.


 * This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 17:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion 4 - Pages deleted
Some new pages in Wikipedia that where mean while deleted, they still appear on "New pages" queue and may be in others queues. Should disappear from the queue.


 * This is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Warnings re. "Weird Al" Yankovic
There is sort of a bug when Huggle warns a user when they've made an unconstructive edit on the Weird Al Yankovic article. On any level, the recent edit link is shown as "Weird_Al"_Yankovic?diff=231805676 recent edit, and then redirects to the main page. This could be possibly from the quotation marks. <font color="4169E1">Schfifty <font color="DC143C">Three 19:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 12:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Category Bug
When I was creating my own list, using recursive categories, Huggle gave the following error: NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at huggle.Requests.RecursiveCategoryRequest.CategoryDone(List`1 Items) at huggle.Requests.ListRequest.RequestDone(Object O)

-- Chet B. Long Talk / ARK 05:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for reporting it :). It'll probably be fixed in the next version. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:52, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't reproduce this with the latest development versions, so it is probably fixed -- Gurch (talk) 19:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug: deleted pages - Portuguese Wikipedia
This may happen on english Wikipedia too, I never tested it here so I don't know. Huggle doesn't show anything when I click in one revision in "Filtered changes" queue from a page meanwhile deleted. This is strange since if I click in one revision on "New pages" queue witch was deleted, I can see it was deleted because it shows me MediaWiki:Noarticletext. Mosca (talk) 11:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your report. This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug: revert-summaries - Portuguese Wikipedia
Huggle doesn't show "revert-summaries:" defined in pt:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config on drop-down menu button. I even tried this and still the same. I can see only "Other summary...." option. Mosca (talk) 11:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 15:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug: Application has generated an exception that could not be handled

 * Process ID=0xa64 (2660), Thread ID=0x244 (580)

Anyone know what's going on?  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  09:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. No, I don't know. There is a possibility be fixed in the next version. On the other hand, it might not be -- Gurch (talk) 20:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Spaces and underscores at AIV
Here, Huggle (I mean, I) reported a user who was already on the AIV page. The previous Twinkle report had used an underscore to represent the spacing. I couldn't see a bug report for it in the archives. THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 15:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. The issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 17:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Warning shortcuts not working
I've only just noticed this, but the Shift+[X] keyboard shortcuts don't work. StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 10:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 10:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! StaticGull <font style="color:Black;background:Turquoise;"> Talk 15:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding warnings to no-wiki
I've created four new warning templates at the no-wiki (no:mal:Uw-vandalism1, no:mal:Uw-vandalism2, no:mal:Uw-vandalism3, no:mal:Uw-vandalism4, no:mal:Uw-vandalism4im). How can I add them to Huggle? Nsaa (talk) 17:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The project's configuration page needs to be changed. I have done this -- Gurch (talk) 20:47, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanx! Already used it (blocked before the final warning although) Nsaa (talk) 16:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug Report
I just got an error while doing a routine patrol. Huggle told me to give you this as well.

Bgs022 Questions? Comments? 17:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * oh no not that one again :( -- Gurch (talk) 17:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, shouldn't happen in the next version. Though I still have to find the underlying cause at some point :/ -- Gurch (talk) 17:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Umm
resolved I thought the issue with stuff like this was fixed already? Or do I remember wrong? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 11:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK then. I just didn't see it in the changelog... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 18:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * r250--Gurch (talk) 19:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And added to on-wiki changelog . Calvin 1998 (t·c) 19:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Feature requests: queue-specific filters
It would be nice to be able to make distinct filters for seperate queues. Or is this feature already there? I certainly can't figure a way to do it. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, there isn't a way currently. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This is implemented in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Help
I downloaded Huggle from the link on WP:HG, but when I try to open it, I get an error message that says

huggle 0.7.12.exe - Unable To Locate DLL

The dynamic link library mscoree.dll could not be found in the specified path..... it goes on to list a path that lasts three and a half lines. I just saved it to my desktop, so I'm not sure what's wrong. <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">Don't fall asleep <font style="color:black">zzzzzz 07:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you have version 2 of the .NET Framework installed? (If you have AutoWikiBrowser or Windows Vista, the answer is yes, otherwise it's probably no unless you have another application that requires it). It is required by Huggle as stated here. If not, it can be downloaded here. If so, try reinstalling it -- Gurch (talk) 10:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, must have missed that. <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">Don't fall asleep <font style="color:black">zzzzzz 03:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit summary bug?
I'm not very familiar with Huggle, but I noticed an edit made to Edward Elgar (diff) where User:Josh3580 has used Huggle. The edit summary appears as: "Reverted unexplained removal of content by $2 to last version by $1". Is this a bug? In addition, the wikilink says "Contrubitions" instead of "Contributions". This made it even harder to see what was going on. There was a User:$2, but he was blocked in 2006.  J Rawle  (Talk) 21:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The user added the misspelled summary to his user configuration subpage, it isn't a message that's part of Huggle. At the moment Huggle doesn't replace $1 and $2 in a manually entered summary with the appropriate values, though I can make it do so if this is desired -- someone would have to ask first, though -- Gurch (talk) 21:55, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's either the failure of MediaWiki to insert the usernames (the $ symbol is used in PHP to denote a variable), or Huggle didn't. Not sure which one, though. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 21:53, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (actually it's neither of these) -- Gurch (talk) 21:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. Well, that would be a problem... :) Calvin 1998 (t·c) 22:08, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * done this--Gurch (talk) 18:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding a welcome message?
I'm just wondering if its possible to add a welcome message to "red" talk pages (i.e.) insert {{subst:welcome-anon}} ~ on IP's and {{subst:welcome}} ~ on user accounts? Nsaa (talk) 18:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you mean automatically, or manually? If the former, no. If the latter, yes, select the 'welcome' option from the blue template messages button. Or are you saying that doesn't work? It seems to work for me -- Gurch (talk) 20:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Great! I was not aware of the manual option. Nsaa (talk) 16:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you want no:Mal:Velkommen to be an option on no.wikipedia? -- Gurch (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes that would be great, but use no:Mal:reg-velkommen for registered users and no:Mal:ureg-velkommen for IPs. (I think I start understand the config page, but it would be great to see some more examples :-) Nsaa (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Done that; you'll need to translate the 'welcome-summary' message -- Gurch (talk) 21:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Non-English Wikipedias
I'm not entirely sure about all wikis, but on es.wikipedia.org, Huggle adds " (article title) ~ " to the talk page of a user who vandalises. es.wikipedia.org has a list of user warning templates, so could Huggle be configured to use them? This may be the case in other languages; I haven't checked. Bart133 t c @ How's my driving? 18:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * es.wikipedia already uses its own messages, defined at the bottom of es:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config; unfortunately there is a bug in the current version of Huggle that causes the wrong messages to be used if you switch projects without restarting Huggle. This is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 19:02, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Indeed it can, just tweak the config at es:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config. There should be a couple entries that have the list of warnings huggle will use. If not, just copy them from the English Wikipedia one and change the template. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 18:46, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

CSS stylesheet?
In the Configuration section, this phrase is used. Although I'm pretty sure, I'm not definite, but I think that this needs to be re-worded to avoid the tautology (ATM machine, PIN number etc) Cheers, Freestyle-69 (talk) 04:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems to me that "CSS stylesheet" has fallen into higher usage than simply "CSS". As far as I know, "CSS", in the common sense, refers to the language itself, not the stylesheet. Yes, it's technically wrong. So is the usage of "data" and "media" for the singular, for an example. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 05:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Now I unnerstan... languages do evolve, hence me asking in an area outside my box. Back to chemistry for me! Thanks, Freestyle-69 (talk) 05:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Bug 8 - Shortcuts
Keyboard shortcuts I can't use:
 * Menu "User" -> "Show user info" - ?
 * Menu "Browser" -> "Back" -  ] 
 * Menu "Browser" -> "Forward" -  [ 


 * Odd, I guess Portuguese keyboard layouts are different. As a workaround you can change the shortcuts (System -> Options -> Keyboard) -- Gurch (talk) 08:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Bug: Report User
Huggle crashes when I try to report a user on the German Wikipedia. The page Administrator intervention against vandalism is called de:Wikipedia:Vandalismusmeldung, I think that is the reason. --Euku 15:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The same thing on the es-wiki. The report page on the Spanish Wikipedia is w:es:Wikipedia:Vandalismo en curso. Best regards --Dferg (talk) 19:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Err... what's the error message? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:16, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no message, it just crashes and windows asks me to send a report. --Euku 10:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The message is (from the report of microsoft):

EventType: clr20r3	P1: huggle 0.7.12.exe		P2: 0.7.12.0 P3: 4894701ª	 P4: huggle   P5: 0.7.12.0	P6: 4894701a	P7: 9eb P8: c		P9: system.nullreferenceexception (emphasis mine Calvin 1998 (t-c))
 * Regards. --Dferg (talk) 10:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks! That helps a lot :) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 16:30, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please, if any solution is found, contact me in my talk page here. My spanish talk page is protected due to recent vandalism. Thanks! --Dferg (talk) 19:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The report pages on other wikis work differently to the ones here. At the moment, Huggle only knows how to handle the English Wikipedia's report format, so cannot report to other pages. I have disabled reporting on these two wikis for now, so Huggle won't crash, instead the report function just won't be available -- Gurch (talk) 19:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Whitelist
There should be a way to remove a user from the whitelist. I found one who definitely doesn't belong on it. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:05, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This is Wikipedia... the " edit this page " button usually does the trick...<font face="Trebuchet MS"> – <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent 21:14, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you find the list is too big for your browser to edit feel free to tell us here :)  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 07:59, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If that is the case, open up huggle, enter the user under "User:", and click "Unwhitelist" and the user will be magically removed from the whitelist upon closing of huggle. Or it should... Calvin 1998 (t-c) 06:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, users are only added to the whitelist in that way, not removed. Otherwise, if someone edited the whitelist while someone else was using Huggle, when the second person closed Huggle it would erase all the first person's additions -- Gurch (talk) 13:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Error in new version 0.8.1
Logging into the no.wikipedia.org, I get this error message

(snipped KeyNotFoundException in Queue constructor)

Regards Nsaa (talk) 21:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report. This issue is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 13:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)