Wikipedia talk:Iranian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 2

Persian People or Persian Speakers
Actually I am against the idea of the article Persian people. Everyone know well that Persian speakers call themselves Esfahani, Khorasani, Mazandarani, Larestani, Hamadani, Yazdi, Araki, Qazvini, Shirazi and etc. The name Persian as an ethnicity should be avoided. What we should have is an article about Iranian people and just mention that Persian is understood by about 95%+ of the population (I have statistics on this) as a first or second language. Then any relavent information can be put under Iranic speakers. Persian is a language, but Iranian is the ethnicity. Under the group of Iranian people we can say the majority of Iranian people speak Persian or related dialect/language (Baluchi,Kurdish,etc.) and these are termed "Iranians" and then we can discuss the Aryan history (Zoroaster, Medes, Achaemenid, Parthians, Persians) and etc. The term Persian should just be reserved for the Persian-Dari language and the Persia as a Western equivalent to Iran. That whole article on Persian people needs to be deleted since it can be hijacked by users that have ill intentions. Our ethnicity is Iranian as our Aryan ancestors have bestowed upon us for more than 3000+ years and Dari-Persian (Persian for short) is the common language of Iran which is one of the Iranian languages.

--Ali doostzadeh 08:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Mughals and Babur
Some help is need; wrong claims are put into the article, clearly contradicting the Encyclopaedia Iranica and Encyclopaedia of Islam. Thx Tajik 00:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Bakhtiar

 * I'm unsure about when Shapour Bakhtiar was born. According to this website he was born in 1915, but according to this one it was 1914. Can any of you help me?--Carabinieri 10:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Sock puppets
please look at User talk:Zanyar and. Bidabadi 17:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

The title for the page about Republic of Azerbaijan
I think Azerbaijan be a disambiguation page and for the country, the page should move to Republic of Azerbaijan. I've explained it in. please share your opinions. Bidabadi 20:33, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

spelling and the External link for Iranian Azerbaijan
Please share your opinion in Talk:Iranian Azerbaijan. Bidabadi 20:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia extension
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It makes life easier. And if your perhaps not using firefox, you should, its the next best thing that happened to internet after wikipedia.

Attention

 * Cinema of Iran reloaded, after only 2 days, now we have 34 actors and 20 actresses and 44 directors plus 6 others... a very good and big work by Sasanjan. But we need help from everbody, adding photos, finding personal web sites, ...


 * Iranian Scientists: Why not to clean Iranian scientists articles from their Arabic forms of their names?, even some of them never has considered as Iranian or Persian nor mentioned any form of their Persian names, meanwhile e.g. encarta named Aborayhan Biruni as an Arab Scientist, what to do? do our bad habbits as usual or take a correct\serious action?Sasanjan 16:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * There's no article for Ahvaz bombing blasts, would you please help to make it?Sasanjan 14:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

2005-2006 US-Israeli threats to attack Iran: risk of deletion
i shifted Mitso Bel's comment to the following:


 * 2005-2006 US-Israeli threats to attack Iran: discussion for deletion of this article started 8 May, original research, POV claims

since someone has already claimed on Articles for deletion/2005-2006 US-Israeli threats to attack Iran that "votestacking" occurred here (on Iranian Wikipedians' notice board) because of an overt request to "vote to keep" the article.

It seems to me reasonable that people knowledgeable about Iran - which in particular means Iranian people living in Iran - should be encouraged to participate in the discussion about whether or not to delete an article about threats to attack Iran. Let me quote Ayatollah Jimbo: Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing. What's the point of giving free access to the sum of all human knowledge to the 70 million people in Iran if that knowledge excludes the claims that many of them are threatened with being killed? Isn't that part of human knowledge?

On the other hand, we still want people to make decisions in line with the WP:NOR and WP:NPOV guidelines, and the question remains whether or not the article 2005-2006 US-Israeli threats to attack Iran is a valid encyclopedic article. Many people believe it should be deleted.

So if you feel you can contribute to the decision either to keep or to delete the article, please do so in a way that respects NOR and NPOV. Boud 00:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Amir Abbas Hoveida
I have totally revamped the entry on Amir Abbas Hoveida. Can someone please proof read it? I might have omitted some information as well. --QajarCoffee 00:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * i know nothing at all about Hoveida (except what i just read ;) - i found one ambiguous sentence - see the talk page. Boud 21:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

The Azari-related articles in Great Danger
Azaris are thnic Iranians and if you go look at the talk:Iranian peoples or talk:Azerbaijani peoples|Azari]] you will see this is evident. In Latin AMerica a majority speak SPanish but they are not considered to be memebers of the EUropean ethnicity to which the people of SPain belong by anthropogists. Neither are the French speaking countries of Africa considered as French or European. SO why are Azaris being pushed as a different race or ethnicity from other Iranians? They do not look different, plus the genetic evidence proves they are the same peoples! I have given numerous examples. WHat is even sadder is that *personal attack removed* are trying to deny the use of the term Azari. I have pointed out that Azaris prounce it with an A in Iran and not e like the minority do in the Republic. He refutly denied it and pushed to have it stopped. Even on the Azari people articles the pan-Turkist delete the pictures of many Iranian Azaris becuase it frightens them due to the significant roles they playe in Iranian society and their loyalty to Iran. They will not allow any pictures of Iranian (Azaris), even though 75-80% of the worlds Azari population are Iranian. This is very unfair and has spilled over into attakcs on the Iranian peoples articles and others such as Tabriz. 72.57.230.179

Talysh
Some people are trying to deflate the number of Talysh speakers by using information from the republic of Azarbaijan. Please keep an eye also on this article. --Ali doostzadeh 22:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Tehran needs attention regarding new edits.
I just checked the page and there have been some new edits which are not very relative, for example one person put their own name (which I erased) and added some links (which still need to be erased). If someone could take care of it, it'll be much appreatiated! Mamnoon --( Aytakin ) | Talk 17:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Azari articles being manipulated
Look at Azari articles; they are being warped. It would be nice if any of you join the Azeri Wiki page. 72.57.230.179
 * Would you please give specific articles? -- Ķĩřβȳ ♥  Ťįɱé  Ø  03:51, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Sassanids vs. Rome (Byzantines)
I have written an article about the Sassanid Byzantine wars. Some of the information I actually got from Wikipedia but about 90% of it is from other sources. The article can be read here: http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=sassanids_byzantines

If you think it is suitable, I can add it to the Perso Roman Wars section.Iranian Patriot 03:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * also, some one should clearly point out here that this report : 2006 Iranian sumptuary law, was a falsification and untrue. it is part of the policy to demonise the enemy before you attack (much like the run up to the iraq war).  also, it should be noted that the owners of that paper are conservatives who support US policy in the mideast.Iranian Patriot 03:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Nizami Ganjavi and pan-turkist attacks on the article
See the article. Some pan-turkists from Caucas want to steal Nizamis Iranian heritage and make a Turk! --Ali doostzadeh 20:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

More on Nizami Ganjavi
See the discussion page.. Pan-turkists are using wrong translations and wrong meanings in order to falsify a Turkic background for Nizami Ganjavi. I have already responded to their newest set of propaganda. Please keep a close eye on the article. --Ali doostzadeh 10:11, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Look at the Disfigurement of Iranian History
Are these okay edits on the part of this user?





The Azari-related articles are all massivly being deviated. Everyone should get proactive. 72.57.230.179

More
Ive noticed that some user(s) keeps removing the History of Iran template from some of the dynasty articles.--Zereshk 04:14, 31 May 2006 (UTC)