Wikipedia talk:Kaffeeklatsch

All-caps variant
I closed the RFD just a few minutes ago, and as part of that, I restored the redirect on WP:KAFFEEKLATSCH simply to remove the RFD tag. But I see that this page (normal capitalization) has gone ahead with the soft redirect. Whether regular redirect or soft redirect prevails on this page, make sure it is done consistently between Kaffeeklatsch and KAFFEEKLATSCH. Harej (talk) 01:30, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanbks. Okay, ✅, I made the wp:KAFFEEKLATSCH to be identical to here. And I redirected its Wikipedia Talk page to this Talk page for central discussion of any changes. -- do  ncr  am  02:59, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Post-RFD discussion, if necessary, about template "R to user namespace"
The two redirects are now identical, with same hidden comment, same one category, and same text and appearance presented. I removed the R to user namespace because it messes up what is displayed. It displays irrelevant stuff, rambling on and on, stuff that is for administrators or technical editors perhaps that should not be displayed for regular users. The unncessary text removed is:

"This is a redirect from a page outside the user namespace to a user page (not to a user talk page). This redirect page must be outside the user namespace. For more information follow the category link."

"Remember that user talk pages are not in the "user" namespace, they are in a talk namespace. This rcat should never be used to tag redirects to user talk pages – use R to talk page instead."

"Note: If this page is in the user namespace, then it will populate Category:Pages with templates in the wrong namespace instead."

except that in the display some of the above words or phrases are wikilinks. (Feel free to improve the represnentation.) There remaains display in small font that "This is a soft redirect", which is okay I guess but plenty. Further, I will "complain" about the display at Template Talk page for R to user namespace, which I think should be changed. As that works now, I prefer for it not to be here, and I'll just manually add the two hidden categories that the template would apply (Category:Redirects to user namespace and Category:Unprintworthy redirects). Also I manually add Category:Noindexed pages. -- do ncr  am  03:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Opened discussion at Template talk:R to user namespace. Maybe it should be at RFD instead, i dunno. -- do ncr  am  03:51, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't have any comments on what the template should or shouldn't display. Just noting that the directions in the template say not to use it on soft redirects. As for being unprintworthy, pages outside of mainspace are automatically not printworthy, so I'm not sure that template is necessary. It's probably not hurting anything though. Ivanvector (talk) 22:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Just in support of the above, the and  categories are only used in mainspace, for it is only those encyclopedic articles/redirects that would be considered either suitable or unsuitable for any type of printable version of Wikipedia. – Paine EllsworthC LIMAX ! 19:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for explaining, and !  I just revised Soft_redirect (a section which I recently developed) to reflect that. -- do  ncr  am  05:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Pleasure! and thank you for your revision to clarify all this as an aid to other editors! – Paine EllsworthC LIMAX ! 10:19, 26 February 2015 (UTC)