Wikipedia talk:Kate's Tool

Creation of Kate's Tool article
Hi! I thought it would be helpful to have an article that links to Kate's Tool. The only way I used to be able to access it was to go to WP:RfA (Requests for Administratorship). I think it's a lot easier to have an article on it. If anyone is opposed to this (or if I'm not supposed to create an article on this), go ahead and remove it. :) Thanks. Flcelloguy 15:51, 27 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I like it, especially the WP:KT shortcut. We all know edit counts don't tell too much, but it is an interesting tool. Incidentally is it broken for everyone or just me. All I get after the upgrade is a blank page for the results. - Taxman Talk June 28, 2005 14:31 (UTC)
 * No longer broken. – ABCD 28 June 2005 20:59 (UTC)
 * The one version still is, but its rather pointless to use compared to the new one. Falphin 28 June 2005 22:16 (UTC)
 * Should we add some more information? Like who is kate, etc?Borisblue 06:41, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep I think that would be a good idea, I was wondering who Kate was myself. BTW, looks like it's broken again, earlier it had my count stuck at 108 even though I had made edits since then, now I can't get it to come up at all. Columbia 09:19, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * It appears to be fixed now. :) Columbia 07:11, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Ditto. I think. I've lost track of my edits, hopefully Kate's device will help me keep track from now on :-) Karmafist 03:58, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Grr... It appears to be broken again. It takes me to the warning message, then when I click "I understand...", it just displays a blank page. --zenohockey 04:24, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Monoskin
Why is this better than a bookmark? I have no idea. :) func (talk) 03:09, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Easier access. I use it. --Blackcap | talk 16:06, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

placing change
i changed the script so that people just copying and pasting the pring to their monobook.js namespace would find Kate apppearing before logout instead of after. the script is misleading to most people... --jonasaurus 01:36, 11 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Is there no way to make it work in other skins? JFW | T@lk  01:47, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Sure, I just added a classic-skin script as an example. There can't really be a universal-skin version of the script, because you have to decide where to place the link, and then parse the page's layout accordingly. If anyone would like to provide me with a skin-type and a location where the link should appear, I can throw a script together for it, though in truth, a bookmark in your browser is still easier. :) Func( t, c, @,) 06:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Distinct pages?
This is a beautiful addition. I don't recall ever seeing it before today. Am I mistaken? --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 19:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No, you're not. Kate just added it yesterday. It is a great addition! -- Alex Nisnevich (talk) 21:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Portal namespace edits
Kate's Tool is at least at the moment incapable of handling edits to the Portal namespace - they get listed as 'Unknown namespace 100'. - ulayiti (talk)  21:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * "Portal talk," I believe, was listed as "Unknown namespace 101," as far as I know. That's changed now, a "Portal" or "Portal talk" edit on en: now reads "enwiki: Portal" or "enwiki: Portal talk." I assume that other laguages have similar listings, such as "gawiki: Portal" or "dewiki: Portal talk." --Blackcap | talk 16:55, 27 September 2005 (UTC)


 * It doesn't seem to be handling them at all, now... I've a few edits in the Portal talk namespace, and they don't show up on the editcounter. Some sort of glitch? Anyone else having this problem? Blackcap | talk 05:26, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * This has been taken care of. Blackcap (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

New features
Like the new features and layout. Edits/page is an interesting statistic and first edit is really useful. the wub  "?/!"  14:00, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not a very big fan of the new layout, but the features are really nice. Edits/page is good. - ulayiti (talk)   (my RfA)  15:47, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Good job, Kate! :) Tito xd 02:46, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed. --Blackcap | talk 16:04, September 8, 2005 (UTC)


 * Have you ever considered adding a "deletion count" as an extra for admins? Just for fun. Maybe a ratio between edits and deletions. Just an idea, not really that important. Thanks.  &laquo;&raquo; Who ? &iquest; ? meta  02:36, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Use in other wikis
Note that this can be used on other wikis affiliated with Wikipedia (owned by Wikimedia, I guess) such as Commons and Meta. I use this script for both of my accounts over there, and I realized that instead of having it automatically link to an "enwiki" edit count, I could have it automatically link to a Commons edit count or any other kind by changing "enwiki" (in line 19 of the script, the line that reads " a.href = 'http://kohl.wikimedia.org/~kate/cgi-bin/count_edits?dbname=enwiki&user=' + user; ") to whatever wiki I wanted (in this case, "commonswiki" and "metawiki." You can find the proper name by going to Kate's Tool and using the pull-down menu on the right. --Blackcap | talk 07:01, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Note: As far as I can tell, the project namespace, no matter what project you're looking in, will be called "Wikipedia" by Kate's Tool (e.g. if you look for edits at Commons, the "Commons" namespace will read "Wikipedia"). See my Meta edits for an example:. The edits under "Wikipedia" are in fact for "Meta." --Blackcap | talk 18:37, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


 * This seems to now have been remedied: it now reads "Project" instead of "Wikipedia." --Blackcap | talk 02:09, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * does this work for all other wikis that are using the wikimedia engine? I'm not sure what you mean by 'owned by wikimedia'... If it can work, please explain how! yours in ignorance--Tom Neill 13:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * What I meant were projects run by Wikimedia, such as Wiktionary, the Commons, Meta, Wikisource, etc. It does not work for wikis that merely use the Wikimedia engine, although I'm sure that it could very easily (the reason it doesn't now is that this is a tool for these projects, and it would be senseless to add every wiki that uses the engine, as they'll be more or less irrelevant to Wikipedia). Blackcap (talk) 07:06, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, my tool, while slower and with a couple of downsides compared to Kate's, does run on any wikimedia-style wiki as-is. Also, the code is public-domain, so people are free to take it and run it on their own sites.  --Interiot 07:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Good to know&mdash;you might want to mention that on the tool's page. And by the way, it's been coming in handy lately, so thanks for it! Blackcap (talk) 08:05, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I've gone and added this into the page. Blackcap (talk) 20:39, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Where did my edits go
I just used it and it credited me with 592 which causes me to loose 25 edits. I need to speak to someone about what is causing this before I lose more.Thanks-  Dak ota    t     e   08:11, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
 * there's a problem with the database on the server it's running on. i'm reloading it at the moment, it should be fine in a day or two.  kate
 * Also, it doesn't count edits on pages that have been deleted. N (t/c) 18:55, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Improvements
The new Kate's Tool looks great!!!! Thanks, Kate. Tito xd (?!?) 05:36, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Problems?
The new layout and feature (deleted edits) are fantastic. But... some of my edits are missing, and all of my edits in Portal talk are gone (I would imagine the same is true for Portal edits, but since I don't have any, I don't know). For example, I noticed that although my contribs say I have six edits in the Category namespace, KT says I have 3. It's not a big problem, but I figured it's worth noting. --Blackcap | talk 05:57, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * where these edits made in the last 3-4 days? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kate (talk • contribs) 06:11, November 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, they were. Does the editcounter not recognize recent edits? Blackcap | talk 15:38, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
 * it should do now... at the time you wrote that it was behind in database replication and was missing a day or two's worth of edits. should be fine now?  kate.
 * Yes, it's perfect now. Thanks a million, Kate, I appreciate it. --Blackcap | talk 16:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Some new features
I like the new features on The Tool. The area where the possible user names come up automagically is great. It is far better than combing through the all users list. Thanks to whomever inserted that. -- LV (Dark Mark)  17:28, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Excuse me...
Maybe it's not the right place to ask, but I've followed the instructions & I'm under the impression that nothing happened.... Here's my monobook: User:Pv7721/monobook.js. I'm not very Javascript-savvy, so maybe a good samaritean out there will give me a hand or point me into the right direction! :) Thanks! --Vlad 16:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Once you add any script to your .css or .js file, you must clear your browser's cache. The instructions for this are at the top of your .css or .js page: if you are using Mozilla/Safari/Konqueror, hold down shift while clicking reload; if Internet Explorer, then Ctrl-F5; if Opera, F5. If that doesn't work, ask me again. Hope that helps, Blackcap (talk) 17:02, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Also note that Kate's Tool is currently down. If your .js file works, you should see a link to Kate's Tool in the upper right-hand corner, but currently the link won't do anything other than display a message saying that Kate's Tool is down. Blackcap (talk) 17:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, BlackCap! Yes I'm aware that the tool is down, for some time now! :) And yes I've refreshed my Opera => still nothing... Maybe I did something wrong with the .js? Could you please just have a look? Thanks again! --Vlad 17:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure. I can't edit your .js files (only the owner can), so I've copied back the text from my old monobook.js file to WP:KT as last I checked, mt script worked (and I got it from here. I use the standard skin, so I don't need it much anymore). The only difference I can see is the addition of " " between " " and " " (on line 9 of the javascript). Try adding that in: if that doesn't work, copy my .js file into yours. If that doesn't work, I'm lost (sorry!)&mdash;I'd check with the fellows over at WikiProject User scripts. Blackcap (talk) 17:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I've tried your version, still doesn't seem to do the trick, so I guess I'll abandon here for now! :) I'm sure it is something very trivial that I overlook! :) Thanks for all your help! --Vlad 18:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. I notice that on line 19 you have   instead of  . That should be changed... does that help at all? Blackcap (talk) 18:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Kowiki problem
enwiki counter is good!! but kowiki, It is bad...Why? WonYong 00:13, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * What's bad about it? Can you give us a link? Blackcap (talk) (vandalfighters, take a look) 00:18, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

it doesn't work on some asian wikis (ko.. i think ja? not sure off hand) which are served from Yahoo! in Seoul, because these databases aren't available. i'm not really sure how to fix this, so you'll need to just put up with it for now. sorry. k.

Kate's Tool down for many days now
Kate's Tool has been down for quite a while now. Anyone know when it's coming back up? --Ixfd64 02:27, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It's alive and well. It's right here. :) Gflores Talk 02:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Awesome! :) --Ixfd64 05:15, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Deleted Edits?
Hi! I'm new to Wikipedia, but I've been having fun with the site over the holiday break. I hope it's appropriate that I ask my question here; it if isn't, I'm thinking someone will gently point me in the right direction.

I found Kate's tool to look at my edit counts. It shows that I have more than a dozen "deleted edits". What is a deleted edit? I assume it's an instance of an edit that I made that was rolled-back by someone else. Are deleted edits bad? I'd like to see which one of my edits were deleted so that I might learn to better serve the community. But that feature has recently been disabled (about a day after I found the tool; bummer!)

Is there a way for me to see my own deleted edits?

Thanks!Mikeblas 06:49, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Deleted edits are typically edits you made to articles, and then the article itself was later deleted. It's not necessarily a good or a bad thing, it depends on the situation (the edits can be you nominating an article for CSD or AfD, that's probably a good thing...  the edits can be from an article you created being CSD'd or AfD'd, that's probably not a bad thing as long as you learn more about policy in the process).  I don't think there's a way to see your own deleted edits outside of eventually becoming an admin.  --Interiot 07:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Interiot. I guess part of the problem is that I don't see the deletions in my edit history, even if I'm watching the article.Mikeblas 08:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

500 Server Error
Title says all.  Sceptr e  ( Talk  ) 15:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, hrm. For now, the same code is running from here okay.  --Interiot 18:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The counter seems to be out of sync. I've got about 40 more edits than what it says. Ah well. *tries to stop my editcounitis* Sceptr e  ( Talk  ) 21:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)


 * please change the email address here... i don't want to receive complaints about yours ;-) k.

--Same I muyst have at least 600 edits but it say that I only have 432 or something --Chazz88 12:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

New version
I've updated the tool located at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits. It's now essentially a rewrite of Kate's tool from Python into Perl, so some bugs are expected. If you see any, please let me know at User talk:Interiot.

In terms of future plans, the output currently there is probably almost as much as I can generate for real-time statistics (due to database constraints). In the future, I'll be implementing a second report from the same tool that is cached, and will run slower, but will include everything my original version of the tool included (and more).

And here are some interesting graphs for starters:
 * Ed Poor
 * Jimbo Wales
 * SimonP

--Interiot 04:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Script placement
Am I supposed to add  kind of box to put the Kate's Tool part of the script in for my monobook.js page? Or do I just add the script like it is to that page?

Also, what do I do with this section:

--FlyingPenguins 02:41, 5 January 2006 (UTC)


 * No, you don't need that kind of box to place it. Just select all of the text and paste it in, and that'll work fine. There's no need to put up code tags. With your second question, I'm not too sure. But, if you look at the next line,, I'm guessing that you put one of those options where " " is currently. Since the default,  , places the link after the "my contributions" link, my guess is that   puts the link after your watchlist's link,   after your talk page's link, etc. If that doesn't turn out to be the case, then I'd ask the fellows over at WikiProject User scripts. Blackcap (talk) 15:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I finally got the code running, and the "kate" link appears in my personal toolbar. But how do you make the "count" thing appear in a popup like in that first picture on the main article? Meanwhile, could anyone tell me how to clean up the code on my monobook.js page? It's all messy. Please look at my JS page here and see what's wrong. --FlyingPenguins 23:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Kate's tool down again?
It might be just for me, but Kate's tool currently has me at 1619 edits, and has had me there for a little while. Copying and pasting all my edits in word and then formatting as a numbered list gives me 1840 edits. Anyone see the same thing happening? Zafiroblue05 04:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The toolserver's replication had stopped working while Kate was away. Kate just fixed it, and things should be getting back to normal.  Replication to the toolserver does get behind sometimes, so I put a status thingy at the top of my toolserver page.  When it gets significantly behind like this, it will cause all tools on the toolserver to give reports that lag behind real-time.  --Interiot 04:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

For a non-wikimedia wiki?
Is it possible that I could get the source code and/or have it modified so I can use it on my own wiki? --Jediarchives11 01:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The source for mine is here:   .  --Interiot 04:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Edit counts
The edit count is doing strange things... it hasn't updated for a week and now it has counted about 4 for my last 100 edits. How am I going to get my editcountitis hit now? - Richardcavell 22:43, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hier oder hier. Or bug de:Benutzer:DaB. to get the enwiki replag lower.  --Interiot 22:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I have the exact same problem. The Republican 19:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Replication has been down for a little while. --Interiot 20:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it still down? And when it comes back up, does it "catch up" what it missed? Unschool 10:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, now I see. Nevermind. Unschool 10:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

on de:
Can somebody give me a code for the "personal menu link" on the top of the page which works on the German Wikipedia? Thanks, TZM 15:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Forget it, I've worked out that I just need to change the "enwiki" in the URL to "dewiki". TZM 08:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Why is it broken right now?
Er...does anyone want to tell me? :( --M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 04:53, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to be broken for me. My edits keep going up. --Liface 20:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Problems with whitespace
If a user name has whitespace in its name, Kate's Tool says "username not found" (or similar) although the name is found in the (completition) "database". (In my case the name couldn't be auto-completed, maybe then there had been an other result.) -- 212.144.197.56 20:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC) aka Amtiss

In this case it didn't work with "Erichs Rache" from the German Wikipedia. -- 212.144.196.206 19:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, now it works (by using "_" instead of one whitespace). Thanks for fixing. -- 141.30.81.159 14:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Akrabbim — No matches
When I type my user name, it says there are no matches. I have a (very) limited amount of edits under some of the other english wikis (under the same username), and it works for those. But for some reason it won't work for Wikipedia. Any help? —Akrabbimtalk 16:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Enwiki has no data while DaBpunkt is working on fixing the data corruption issues that have snuck in this past month. He believes it will be back and working in hours or a few days at most.  Also see #wikimedia-toolserver for the latest toolserver status.  --Interiot 22:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Problem with Umlaut (German - ä,ö,ü)
Kate's Tool doesn't show the Edits of users with Umlaute in their names, although the names are found in the database (for completing) or even completed. F.e. -Matth%C3%A4us- - but the direct link works. -- Amtiss, SNAFU ? 13:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Down again
Seemed to be working a couple days ago, but down again. --Liface 16:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It is now down for more than a week for English Wikipedia edits. -- S iva1979 Talk to me  23:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Updated script
As both Kate's and Interiot's edit counters are now seldom updated, I have modified the Monobook script on this page so that there is now an option to decide which edit counter should be used: Kate, Interiot or Interiot's Tool2. This updated script can be found at User:Andrewh/counterLink.js.

As the Tool2 counter is not yet compatible with Internet Explorer, I have made the script so that if Tool2 is chosen and the edit counter link is then clicked in IE, a confirmation message will appear asking the user whether they want to download a compatible browser (Mozilla Firefox). If the user agrees, they will then be taken to http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ to download the Firefox browser.

Take a look at the script and feel free to suggest any improvements, though I must warn you that I only know simple JavaScript. Andrew (My talk) 14:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit count by namespace?
It doesn't look like these tools are updated regularly or anything, but I see people quoting numbers for edit counts by user, often split up by namespace. Off the top of my head, I think this was mentioned in a few RfA discussions. How do people arrive at these numbers? Personally I'd like to know what proportion of my edits are actually in article space. BigNate37T·C 01:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Interiot's edit counter lists these, though it's currently like 45 days behind. My Tool2 lists up-to-date numbers (as does Essjay's).  --Interiot 02:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. Say, I know its asking a lot, but is it also possible to count edits from deleted articles? Either way, thanks again—your tool + MS Excel gave me a quick tally and percentage breakdown. BigNate37T·C 03:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it's not possible to do this with Tool2, as there is no on-wiki way to get a list of a person's deleted edits. It might be possible to do that with the toolserver tool, but again, that's old data. --Interiot 04:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirect?
I think we should just redirect this page to WikiProject_edit_counters. Kate's tool is no longer maintained, and this page doesn't really serve any purpose right now. Borisblue 04:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, Kate's continues to be maintained... it just doesn't work for en.wikipedia.org right this moment (though it may soon).  And it was the first edit counter, and was the only edit counter for... years I think?  And River/Kate continues to be one of the primary people doing behind-the-scenes work on the toolserver to keep it up and running.  Also, per hit count statistics, a fair number of people use Kate's.  --Interiot 04:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Kate's tool is represented at WikiProject_edit_counters; nothing is lost if the page is simply a redirect as Borisblue said. -- Rmrfstar 15:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC)