Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-06 White People

It's much more complex
I honestly wish it would be such minor issue the only aspect of the dispute going on in the White people entry. This page (that I personally prefered made a disambiguation page, though I'm a minority in that) has gone through intense POV disputes basically between a core of responsible wikipedians and a number of editors, mostly anonymous (though now I believe the page is semiprotected) that want it to fit to their "white nationalist" POVs.

After the semiprotection, a consensus was reached and the article cleaned up and briefly consolidated. The only registered editor with that specific POV (User:Dark Tichondrias) retired from the dispute after having advocated certain version because Stormfront and another white nationalist group thought like her. Then a new user, User:Thulean, appeared out of nowhere and fully focused on this article, trying to bring it to the "racialist" POV. Naturally, other editors, including myself, reverted and commented.

Thulean entered the discussion but did not accept compromises with the already estabilished consensus. While this discusion was going on, DarkTichondrias (another race-only focused user, btw) reappeared and started doing edits, first minor ones, then major ones under the pretext of minor ones. Thulean joined her.

Yesterday I reverted to the consensuated version and made an RFC. --Sugaar 18:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The particular dispute discussed here
Obviously the real scope of the concept of white (European, Caucasoid, more or less light skinned, etc.) is in the background of this particular sub-dispute. But one important thing is that a majority of editors wants the article to be sucint and delimited, keeping the discussion on what's race in the Human race article and the particular issues concerning the USA in the White American entry, while Thulean and DT prefer to extend teh article indefintely in accordance with their particular POV.

I think that Psychohistorian is a responsible Wikipedian and that his position is in agreement with a wide majority of editors, now and in the "historical" context of that controversial page. Psychohistorian and I have not always been in agreement but both have tried to reach consensus and worked intensely to keep the article NPOV.

His edit is within the standard consensus-making and NPOV policies of Wikipedia, at least in my opinion. The attitude of Thulean is at least clearly POV. --Sugaar 18:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)