Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-01 Joyce Foundation

No, no, no, no. We don't insert poorly sourced information without a hope of citation, and certainly not when it's "Criticism" of an organization. That's #2 in my book to adding unreferenced criticism to a person. The fact that Kevin has summarily rejected WP:RS, probably one of the most important policies in the entire project, is telling: "I reject the policy of WP:RS as destructive to the very concept of Wikipedia and will not follow it.)" Kevin, you might want to read WP:V and WP:N. A bunch of gun rights activists on their blog said the organization is bad? Source it to somebody notable, or remove it. We don't set up the Wikimedia Foundation for lawsuits for absolutely no reason. - Wo o  ty   Woot?   contribs  22:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment, am not going to look into the details of this case (got other stuff to do...) but I'll make the general comment that if you look at a broader scope than this you will see that Hipocrite has been overly aggressive in deletion of content from wikipedia. So even if Hipocrite is right on this one instance this has not always been so in my opinion, might even go so far as to say as rarely been so. Additionally I'll add it is my view that Hipocrite has generally responded in an uncivil manner on this and other matters. This is merely my comment on this matter, so take what weighting of it as you will. Mathmo Talk 11:24, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree. Matches my impression of / experience with Hipocrite. I don't think he's a bad guy, it's just that his troll genes sometimes get the better of him. ;-) Check out his talk page. Chrisahn 21:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Civility is an internal concern. Adding unsourced criticism is an external one, in my opinion a more important one, and weighs badly on credibility, as well as opening WF up for potential libel lawsuits, does it not? - Wo o  ty   Woot?   contribs  02:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It does (not the libel - you can't libel an orginization). You will find a steady stream of blogwarriors rolling in to give their two cents on how I'm a terrible, terrible man for following WP:RS and WP:ATT, and then going back to POV war on their blogarticles. Hipocrite - &laquo; Talk &raquo; 05:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)