Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Cebu 1

''This page contains discussion on WP:PINOY's participation in POSS 2008. Correspondence with the organizers are archived here''

Bentong and I (at the minimum) will be meeting on June 23-24. So I guess this is the first Cebu Wikipedia Meet-up. We chose that date since that is the First Philippine Open Source Summit. Both of us are planning to attend the summit. And with these combination of motivators, perhaps more of you guys would be interested to fly to Cebu :)

In any case, we were hoping to propose to the organizers that we represent the Philippine Wikipedia Community in the summit. We are pretty much open culture folks after all. We would like to align this to the community. Is this OK with all of you guys? We think this would be a good way to get more people to be part of the community.

Here's the formal email I will send to the organizer. I already talked with him, and he seems interested about the proposal.

Discussion on letter to organizer
If there are no objections, I'll send this on May 9 (I won't have internet access from May 10 to 16). --Nino Gonzales (talk) 07:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The draft letter is fine with me. The Cebu Meetup will also be important for finalization re incorporation of Wikimedia Philippines. Please join PhilWiki for more info. --Bentong Isles (talk) 08:24, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You should clarify that those featured/good articles are actually on the English Wikipedia. Also, some of the featured articles are actually featured lists. "Loose organization"? That's being quite generous. Hehehe. --seav (talk) 09:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I might participate in this meetup. --Jojit (talk) 12:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

We at BNEF-IT (Bacolod's version of Cebu's CEDF-IT) received the same invite from the organizers today. I'm planning to be there. =) btw, the invite stated that they "are currently designing the 50 sqm Pavilion Booth for all Local Implementing Partners, ICT Council, and Open Source organizations. In this way, you would have the opportunity to exhibit promotional materials (in your designated area at the pavilion) about your organization during the summit entirely for free."... another opportunity to promote Wikipedia. &mdash;  • Kurt Guirnela •  ‡ Feedback  12:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Great. So it's looking like there'll be 4 of us.--Nino Gonzales (talk) 07:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposal
Does local implementing partner sound ok for you guys, particularly to those who are planning to join?--Nino Gonzales (talk) 11:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

May 17 Virtual meet-up discussion on Cebu Summit
bustrias: welcome Nino Gonzales: hello bustrias: how's the Cebu meetup? Nino Gonzales: bentong and i will definitely meet up Nino Gonzales: participation in the summit... wanted to get your inputs before i make commitments Nino Gonzales: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Cebu_1 Nino Gonzales: you guys ok with the phil wikipedia community being an "implementing partner" bustrias: what is that? Nino Gonzales: As a Local Implementing Partner, wherein your organization's involvement in the Philippine Open Source Summit 2008 shall include, but not necessarily be limited to, the following �

1. Promote and encourage participation among your members, collaborators and affiliates � as conference delegate or

sponsor/exhibitor � to the Philippine Open Source Summit 2008

2. Distribute promotional materials/brochures and/or delegate invitation (HTML, hard copy, or fax) to your members; and,

3. Form part of the panel in either the plenary session and technology breakout sessions, with cost of travel, accommodation, and

honorarium taken cared of by the Local Implementing Partner.

For its part, the Cebu Chamber CBM Foundation shall extend its support to the Nino Gonzales: Sponsorship is definitely not an option for us. bustrias: ok bustrias: well thats fine with me Nino Gonzales: if no one will oppose by tonight, i'll assume it's ok with everyone else as well... i've posted that more than a week ago... bustrias: i hope you have enough manpower in that exhibit Nino Gonzales: you're going right? bustrias: I hope I could come but I have a tight sched in the next two months Nino Gonzales: eugene, how about you? bustrias: I'm quite concerned. I've informed more participants but they're still offline. Nino Gonzales: last time dba we also started late bustrias: last time when I was joined in at 8:30 there were about 6 i think and there was an active discussion Nino Gonzales: we had months of months of pent up discussion last time Nino Gonzales: *of months eavillar: no trips for me Nino Gonzales: what if it's free? eavillar: it's a bit unlikely still Nino Gonzales: any of you guys have any objections if we approach the wpinas folks? they might be able to sponsor planefares and registration... we could partner with the booth... Felipe Aira: no objections Felipe Aira: but I'm not really optimistic about that Nino Gonzales: well, at least we can try bustrias: me too Nino Gonzales: printing cost of marketing materials at the very least... Felipe Aira: so far, compared to last week, this discussion is dead do you guys want to discuss something that needs to be done bustrias: how's the tagalog wiki? apcbarazon has joined the conference.

bustrias: welcome apcbarazon: long time no hear/see, amigos bustrias: hehe Felipe Aira: who are you at Wikipedia? bustrias: he's titopao apcbarazon: titopao Felipe Aira: ah ok hi apcbarazon: Felipe Aira: none of much activity has been going so far apcbarazon: who else are we expecting tonight? Felipe Aira: do you have anything to suggest talking about? yllib_puc: No, thank you. Yahoo! Messenger: yllib_puc has declined to join. Felipe Aira: we'll Felipe Aira: i don't really know deathsembraces has joined the conference.

bustrias: welcome lenticel deathsembraces: whooo ngayon lang nagkainternet! deathsembraces: No, thank you. Yahoo! Messenger: deathsembraces has declined to join. deathsembraces has joined the conference.

bustrias: deathsembraces: ano na nangyayari? deathsembraces: ala me mic d2 bustrias: no voice chat deathsembraces: ala pong voice chat bustrias: well its rainy outside deathsembraces has joined the conference.

deathsembraces: hello deathsembraces: hello po deathsembraces: asan na kau Nino Gonzales: hello Nino Gonzales: just starting deathsembraces: ayos

May 27 Updates
a few updates. --Nino Gonzales (talk) 02:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Bentong Isles and I met face to face with Boni Belen, the head organizer of POSS.
 * The Philippine Wikipedia Community is officially a "Local Implementing Partner" of POSS (see details in the  email forwarded to Philwiki or in the correspondence archive page)
 * If you are going, pls sign-up in the meet-up page (they might give us discounts or complementary tickets [still under discussion])

Hotels for out-of-towners
Which hotel is nearest the CICC? Any suggestions Nino? Much appreciated. &mdash; •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ•  Speak!  23:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually asked User:Bentong Isles two weeks ago if he would be willing to help out in the accomodations of out-of-towners. He said to just email him... according to him, he has contacts from Holiday Inn to Marriot... --Nino Gonzales (talk) 08:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I unfortunately have been based in Manila for the last 5 years... --Nino Gonzales (talk) 08:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops, my bad. =) I should have buzzed Bentong. Thanks for the heads-up. Has he been posting lately? Or is he still on sabbatical? &mdash; •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ•  Speak!  14:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * He's around but busy with non wiki things...--Nino Gonzales (talk) 09:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Discussion on POSS in the June 1, 2008 Tambayan Chat Conf
Nino Gonzales: felipe, ganda ng press kit Felipe Aira: thanks Felipe Aira: aayusin ko iyon bigay ako ng bagong bersyon bukas bustrias: I like to file a vacation leave sa June 23-24 pero i never been to Cebu Nino Gonzales: even more reason to go there... bustrias: Wala pa akong relatives doon eavillar: wala akong pera for plane ride eavillar: hehe ian_lopez_1115: Same here. Who designed the Wikimedia Philippines logo? Or was it modified from the original? Felipe Aira: me Felipe Aira: I created it from Wikimedia Argentina in Inkscape Felipe Aira: it's fully compliant to visual something guidelines of Wikimedia Foundation ian_lopez_1115: Looks good enough for me. We'll be undoubtedly the first Wikimedia chapter in South East Asia. scorpion_prinz has joined the conference.

Felipe Aira: yehey! scorpion_prinz has joined the conference.

jinjian0604: hello guys Felipe Aira: hello Felipe Aira: sa tingin niyo, ano pang magandang statistics ang isama roon sa PDF ng POSS bukod sa article count? Nino Gonzales: page views ian_lopez_1115: Maybe the number of articles in the Philippine language Wikimedia projects (tagalog wikipedia, cebuano wikipedia, etc.)? Nino Gonzales: that would show how much impact wikipedia has... and how much impact contributing to it has Felipe Aira: hindi ko ako makakagawa non kasi hindi nagpupublish ng Page views ang stats.wikimedia.org eavillar: felipe... how about placing the text on meta first so everyone can copyedit it? Nino Gonzales: diba may top 100 report somewhere Felipe Aira: sure Nino Gonzales: yup bustrias: nabasa ko na may cookbook na pala sa tl.wikibooks scorpion_prinz: hohum Felipe Aira: oo may user don ang daming ginawang panluto Felipe Aira: User:Urbano ian_lopez_1115: like what? Felipe Aira: pritong manok Nino Gonzales: guys, agenda.... Nino Gonzales:    * Cebu 1 and the Philippine Open Source Summit o Pledged participants and Philippine Wikimedia Community desk staff o Philippine Wikimedia Community (provisional name of WMPH) presskit, posters o Topics to discuss in Cebu 1 o PWC's actual participation to the POSS + Philippine Collaboration Projects - LGU, Culture & Arts + GNU Free Documentation License and other issues in Intellectual Property

Felipe Aira: ah yes Nino Gonzales: pledged? Nino Gonzales: bentong, jojit, me and butch? ian_lopez_1115: I'm pledging P100 initially, as I said earlier. bustrias: 50-50 pa ako sa sa trip sa cebu, i am waiting for my boss' approval Nino Gonzales: oks. but i'll give your name anyway Nino Gonzales: sorry ian, i mean poss participants ian_lopez_1115: ok lang. bustrias: baka parang promdi ako sa Cebu - if that is a good term bustrias: all along puro sa Manila at Luzon lang ako Felipe Aira: to ian may nakalagay nang statistics ng article count para sa mga Philippine-language Wikipediashttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PhlGr.PNG ian_lopez_1115: nakita ko na yan, very impressive article count. ian_lopez_1115: (I had seen it sa Tambayan talk page) bustrias: well at least we saw when the Cebuano and Tagalog Wiki count rose Felipe Aira: to nino: tungkol doon sa pinost mo sa Tambayan, ilan bang mga artikulo ang ginawa tungkol sa mga French communes ian_lopez_1115: I think that the cebuano language version has more articles than the tagalog language version. Nino Gonzales: butch, don't worry, you'll have tour guides... hehe... on the french communes, i'll get the no... Felipe Aira: yup Nino Gonzales: misleading kasi Nino Gonzales: that's because of the french communes Nino Gonzales: we could just put a footnote... Nino Gonzales: *excluding french communes or something like that Felipe Aira: tanungin muna natin ang mga taga ceb.wiki kung dapat ngang alisin sa bilang iyon? Nino Gonzales: ako, i'm from ceb Felipe Aira: malamang nakakategorisa iyon kaya doon ko na lang kukunin Felipe Aira: ah ok Nino Gonzales: anyway, i'll post a note in ceb Nino Gonzales: any other promotional material we should have printed? Nino Gonzales: aside from the poster Nino Gonzales: and the press kit? scorpion_prinz: lets just have posters muna..its hard to have press kits pa..since we still have budget constraints Nino Gonzales: wpinas agreed to print them Nino Gonzales: so no cost Felipe Aira: kailangan pa natin ng pahintulot ng Wikimedia para gamitin ang logo nila scorpion_prinz: theres not much talk about... the org it self.. scorpion_prinz: for purposes of official representation Nino Gonzales: the org has to be official first before official rep.. Nino Gonzales: felipe, was that a q? Nino Gonzales: or a statement? Felipe Aira: statement scorpion_prinz: dapat maorganize muna... jinjian0604: when ang target na maorganized ang org? mayroon ba? scorpion_prinz: mahirap you have all materials then hindi pa fully organized..then that will be misrepresentation? Nino Gonzales: yup, that's why it's only unofficial now Felipe Aira: so aalisin yung mga logo sa press kit Nino Gonzales: let's ask them first Felipe Aira: good idea Nino Gonzales: i emailed jay walsh. he answered the first time re marketing materials scorpion_prinz: submit the proposal to wikipedia na... Nino Gonzales: no reply when i asked about usage of logo ian_lopez_1115: Shall we end the life of WikiProject Encantadia? And we need to revive WikiProject LGU's.. Nino Gonzales: also the comms team. no reply Felipe Aira: may active pa ba doon? Nino Gonzales: i'll email them again ian_lopez_1115: Saan ba? Encantadia or LGU's? Felipe Aira: encantadia Felipe Aira: wala na di ba ian_lopez_1115: cut off its life support. scorpion_prinz: im for it bustrias: ako pa lang recently sa LGUs Nino Gonzales: btw, last two topics on cebu... so we could get that out of the way... Nino Gonzales: # Topics to discuss in Cebu 1
 * 1) PWC's actual participation to the POSS

* Philippine Collaboration Projects - LGU, Culture & Arts * GNU Free Documentation License and other issues in Intellectual Property

Nino Gonzales: no additions? ian_lopez_1115: How about the recent contributions of our fellow tambays? Nino Gonzales: ok. i guess we coud discuss this in the tambayan Nino Gonzales: for instance? Felipe Aira: to nino: alam ko na yata kung ilan ang mga french communes 31, 092 Nino Gonzales: ok, i'm sure the graph would look more realistic if we remove that... Felipe Aira: kasi mas makikita ang bicol ilo at cbk-zam Nino Gonzales: yup akira123323 has joined the conference.

akira123323: No, thank you. Yahoo! Messenger: akira123323 has declined to join. akira123323 has joined the conference.

Nino Gonzales: ok, i guess that's it for cebu... hope to see you all there... akira123323: i need a hotel room and a plane ticket

Video cam
I think it would be good if one you people going there would have a video cam with you to document the event. Since I had this idea of making a YouTube video advertising Wikimedia Philippines, Wikimedia, Wikipedia etc. --   Felipe   Aira  10:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Physical meetup still a success(?)
If User:Kguirnela and User:Jojit_fb discussed Wikipedia matters at POSS, then it is technically a meetup.(?) If so, the meetup was a success even if the original 'official delegates' and the local cebuano Wikipedians didn't make it. Jordz (talk) 10:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * User:Jojit_fb and I never met at POSS, I didn't have his number and neither did he have mine, so we were never actually met face to face. &mdash; •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ•  Speak!  02:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I was there
I was in CICC last June 23-24. I was there for Beyond Jedi and MySQL. I didn't know there was a plan for a wikipedia meet up. Too bad I didn't get to meet you guys... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.175.108 (talk) 05:21, 14 July 2008 (UTC)