Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User:BIONICLE233/Trytofind

Why is my hidden page being deleted? I worked so hard!!! Please don't delete anything until I understand whats going on and get some answers. BIO NIC  LE  233  17:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm...this was a very heated debate. It seemed to me that many admins. and high up important people with power where participating. Also, it seemed that the people voting for a delete where all older users-adults, who would not want games on Wikipedia even if they where allowed. Also, Hidden Pages do not seem to be overly wrong or distracting from the encyclopedia, as Users simply find it once, then take a barnstar and leave, probably never to revisit the hidden page again. I do not know where this all started, but I suspect Midnight Comet might have had something to do with it. I recently made and "repeating page" game that i put on my User Page. it got deleted, or will be soon. however, the discussion for delete was much quieter and less argumentative than this one. The people who discussed, and voted for deletion, where mainly people with similar interests to mine. There where only about five people in the discussion, and overall, they where much better at showing me why the page should not be included, and why they wished it deleted. They where also MUCH less prejudiced against web page games, and all tried to be understanding of my concerns. I no longer care that the page is being deleted, but I'm sure this is not how Bionicle233 feels. I think it's possible that a group of powerful, long standing admins have taken control of the encyclopedia, along with some other high up excecutives, and are working to prevent the fun and games of the younger users. I do not hold with this, being a WikiDragon and I have suffered such similar prejudice before. while my theories may be completely false, I do not think such a large gathering of important people, all prejudiced against the creation of any kind of fun content unrelated to the encyclopedia, could have just suddenly "appeared" at this discussion page out of the blue. I noticed a comparison one of them made, that "We are trying to set up a library, and you people are playing ball in between the shelves." while this may be correct to some degree, there should always be fun in a library. A library is CREATED for PLEASURE, AND work, not JUST work, study, and other such activities. and, in every library, there is always (or should always be) a small area for the little children to play, and laugh, and talk a little louder than everyone else. There seems to be such an area in wikipedia,the WikiProject fun, or entertainment or whatever it is called, but there does not seem to be enough of it. But should the fun be confined to that small playpen where the little children play? NO! Any good library has comfortable armchairs spaced throughout, where someone may sit down for a quiet read, the library always has fun programs centered around reading set up, people are allowed to wear colorful clothing in the library, they are allowed to laugh, yes quietly, at a funny snippet from whatever they might be reading, so you see, a library, or encyclopedia, NEEDS to be made for ENJOYMENT, not primarily as a place filled with knowledge. yes, you want to get as much knowledge into it as possible, but the knowledge must be kept for enjoyment, for fun, recreational uses, to make studying, and working easier and more enjoyable. if those who made and manage Wikipedia say that it is a place where knowledge is kept only for learning and studying, that it is a library such as one might find on a esteemed college or university, where no childrens books are kept, and only high, advanced learning policies are strictly adhered to, then WE, the younger generation, of gamers, sports fans, people who want to have fun as they work, HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. yes, if this is a place of advanced knowledge, of work, we do NOT belong here, and it is the FAULT OF THE ADMINISTRATORS FOR LETTING US STAY. it is the fault of the administrators for not blocking us all, for shutting the doors of the library to the kids with the bats and baseball gloves, to tell them to go to the park instead, it is the fault of the administrators for not gently telling the loud, noisy kids to be quiet or to leave. it is their fualt, and they don't realize it. no one does. so if they cannot realize it, enforce it, if they cannot tell us to leave and block our accounts, then for every game page they delete, for every fun zone they abolish, for every single page they rip from the Wikipedian who created it, it is THEIR FAULT, not that of the author. they set down the guidelines, but if they can't enforce them or make them clear enough, IT IS THEIR FAULT. I myself try to follow the guidelines a lot, and though i have made just about no edits to Wikipedia yet, that is because I am a new user, and most of my edits are on my page. someone once mentioned, "All you do is fool around on your User Page or chat to other people." This is true, i do fool around on my User Page, but i barely talk to other people. Most people won't even talk back to me, i am new, and my talk page is about a foot long. the person who accused me of talking too much, had themselves a page that probably could have gone from the roof of my house all the way to the ground. all i do is mess around on my talk page, yes. but the reason i do it is because my talk page is my base, my command center, my living room couch, the place where i rest, plan, prepare, do whatever it is i need to do to help me help make articles, and the reason i have only messed around on it so far is I want it perfect, an impenetrable fortress of strength and fortitude, before I venture out into the sea of uncertainty that is the everyday life of the average editor. Now, i have said a lot, so I will stop now. I try to follow the guidelines of WikiPedia, i accuse no one in my statement, I am simply saying what is on my mind at the moment.-- Jakkinx   Talk to me!  16:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC)