Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (categories)/Usage of American

previous discussion

 * Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Category:By country (Jan 2005 discussion)
 * Naming conventions (country-specific topics) (April 2005 discussion)
 * Wikipedia talk:Category titles/Archive 1
 * Wikipedia talk:Category titles/Archive 2
 * Wikipedia talk:Category titles/Archive 3
 * Wikipedia talk:Category titles/Archive 4
 * Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (categories)/Archive 5
 * Wikipedia talk:Category titles/Archive: Poll started August 4, 2005
 * Wikipedia talk:Category titles/Archive: Summary of poll started August 4, 2005
 * Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (categories)/Usage of American/Archive 1

Conclusion
The straw poll and the discussion seem to have played out. The straw poll shows 44 votes for a standard of sorts, against 4 votes opposing a standard. Of the three proposals on offer for a standard, "American X" gained 31 votes, "United States X" gained 12 votes, (Radiant's withdrawn), and "of the United States" gained 2 votes. That gives "American X" a near 69% share of the vote of all those expressing preference for a standard. Is it fair to assume a consensus on the position of "American X"? Hiding talk 20:32, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I have removed the listing for this poll from Current surveys as it has been >21 days and the matter seems to be (at least temporarily) closed. Courtland 16:26, 26 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I think it is fair to assume a consensus and to promote this to a guideline or incorporate in the MoS.
 * By the way, I haven't voted, and a massive related thread has developed on the MoS talk page. Should we reopen the poll? Else accepting the verdict seems the only logical solution to me. PizzaMargherita 20:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Comments

 * It's a weak consensus, but give it a try and see how it works out. There has been little objection to cat renames to use American. Vegaswikian 21:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I got plenty of objection in Categories for deletion/Log/2005 December 22 - to the point where my attempt at renaming this - and several similar cats - was struck down. I guess this needs to be reconsidered?  wknight94 17:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Naming conventions for categories that are by country or by nationality are dictated by the subject matter more than the nationality. Thus if aircraft categories have their own standard (they do) then American/U.S. categories should reflect that standard.  Ships for example are Ships of the United States, and it would be strongly opposed to move them to American ships or United States ships.  We have just had a series of such CfDs.  Having consistency across all U.S. related categories is not a bad thing, but plays second to consistency within a subject matter. Josh 20:10, 17 January 2006 (UTC)