Wikipedia talk:Notice board for India-related topics/INCOTW/History/Archive

The following are the past articles chosen for Indian Collaboration of the Week.

Himalaya - February 6, 2005
'''Selected February 6, 2005; 6 votes in 6 days. Details of voting as under
 * Nominated January 30, 2005; needs 5 votes by February 6, 2005

Support: Comments:
 * 1) Dmcdevit 00:51, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Arunram 15:30, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Sundar 15:50, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Nichalp 18:14, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) kunjan1029 06:47, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Brhaspati 01:39, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC)
 * This article is much too small for the tallest mountains in the world! &mdash; Dmcdevit 00:51, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * This isn't a truly "India" topic, I feel that it can be kept on the back burner for sometime. I have two images of the Himalayas that can be added. Nichalp 18:14, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * I suppose you are right. But I'm pretty sure this COTW would have more expertise than any others on the topic (except maybe China?).  Not being a native, I'm not sure, but I would assume also that it has  a substantial impact on the culture/national identity  of the region if not India itself.  I welcome enlightenment on the subject. --Dmcdevit 03:42, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * While I agree that the Himalayas are not an exclusively Indian topic, the Indian climate is largely because of the Himalayas' height and location (it blocks Arctic winds from the north and precipitates the monsoon winds on its south, among other things). We could bring that aspect out in this article. -- Brhaspati 01:39, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC)

Hampi
Selected February 20, 2005, leading with six votes Nominated January 29, 2005 needs three votes by February 5, 2005

Support
 * 1) Arunram 08:06, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Amar 09:07, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Nichalp 18:20, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) pamri 05:12, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) utcursch 06:58, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) kaal 19:11, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Comments
 * Hampi is a world heritage site and on the endangered list. The article currently is a stub at best with very little content. Might be a great candiate to get started with INCOTW. Arunram 08:06, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Some content could be used from the excellent Vijayanagara article. pamri 05:12, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

New Delhi

 * Selected March 13, 2005; leads with 6 votes'

Support: Comments:
 * 1) kaal 19:24, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Nichalp 18:12, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC) Currently the article is a National Shame.
 * 3) utcursch | talk 05:40, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Sundar 05:44, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Brhaspati (talkcontribs) 20:19, 2005 Mar 5 (UTC) (will make cautious edits - I have very limited personal experience with ND).
 * 6) nikhil 14:26, 2005 Mar 10 (UTC)
 * The article is just a long list of tourist attractions of delhi. We need a very comprehensive article on the capital atleast like we have for mumbai and chennai. plus i am sure a lot of people will be very easily able to write lots of stuff about delhi.
 * Here's a question - should Delhi be merged with New Delhi? If not, how exactly should they be differentiated? Should we pitch New Delhi as the seat of the Union Govt and Delhi as a general Indian city? -- Brhaspati (talkcontribs) 20:19, 2005 Mar 5 (UTC)
 * we should merge some of the info from delhi into this, but as delhi is now almost a state, New Delhi seems more appropriate as the national capital. however we will have to figure out the city limits for new delhi. more input from people in the actual area is required. kaal 20:36, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Good point. As an addendum, we currently have Delhi, New Delhi and National capital territory, and they all use sliding definitions of "Delhi". New Delhi makes this claim in its introduction: New Delhi is the third largest metropolis in India.. But this contradicts its own Geography section, which states As of 2005, New Delhi's population is 292,300. There are probably 50 Indian cities with a population greater than that . It is not clear whether the statistics quoted in Delhi refer to Delhi (city) or Delhi (state) or (Delhi (either) + satellite towns in other states). How should we divide the articles? -- Brhaspati (talkcontribs) 20:51, 2005 Mar 5 (UTC)
 * Delhi is the state/UT. New Delhi is a part of Delhi and it history begins much later. In short ND is a subset of Delhi. Nichalp 19:36, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

History of Indian music

 * Selected March 29

Support: --Notquiteauden 13:48, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Hyacinth 04:42, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Arunram 19:24, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) utcursch 08:14, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Patnaik 22:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) gren 06:50, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Rydia 03:20, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Currently redirects to Music of India. The general COTW last week was History of Music, the India-related topics next COTW could be History of Indian music.	 &mdash;
 * It would be great if someone could contibute to the India section of the so-called history of music (which currently reads like a history of Western music).--Dmcdevit 05:35, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Good point. It also doesn't read much like history, and may better be developed from "history of" articles rather than genre or style articles.
 * Indian music history surely needs showcasing.
 * I took the liberty to remove the redirect. Circeus 12:21, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Geography of India

 * Selected May 11.
 * Nominated March 5, 2005; needs 5 votes by April 23, 2005

Support: Comments:
 * 1) Circeus 18:20, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Nichalp 18:59, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) kaal 19:48, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Brhaspati (talkcontribs) 21:38, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)
 * 5) utcursch | talk 08:15, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) prashanthns | talk
 * 7) 500LL 13:18, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) --Bhadani 19:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * The article currently solely comprises of the Geography a part of the CIA world factbook for India. I'm sure you all can do better.

Indian Railways

 * Nominated March 19, 2005; 8 votes
 * Selected June 5

Support:
 * 1) Binand 00:02, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Nichalp 10:05, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3)  04:21, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) kaal 04:47, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) AYArktos 10:04, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) RC 13:26, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) deeptrivia 12:22, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) kapitanniemand 02:28, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

Comments:
 * The article is not marked as a stub, but it is very sloppy and lacks any detail. Binand
 * I once nominated it to WP:COTW and even though it was successful, it did not mature to the desired level. -- 04:21, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Kannur

 * ''Nominated April 26, 2005;

Support: Comments:
 * 1) sumal 13:38, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Muralikumar
 * 3) Bidyotp
 * 4) Sundar 06:37, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * I have started the article . It needs editing . I hope fellow Indians will help me out. - User:Sumalsn
 * Good work, Sumal. By the way, you had mistaken this nomination to be equivalent to featured article status and hence updated the India notice board list. I've reverted that with an explanation in the edit summary. We can edit the article and perhaps nominate it at WP:FAC when it is mature. -- 04:17, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Ican help only in copyediting. I'll do it once there is enough content and gfdl images. -- 06:37, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Flag of India

 * ''Nominated 2005-06-06;

Support:
 * Selected on 2005-06-26
 * 1)  =Nichalp (Talk)= 13:29, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Will be quite an interesting article, are we going to start from the very version of the flag (IRC, Annie Beasant ?) (sp).--IMpbt 06:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Gd

History of India

 * ''Nominated June 17, 2005; needs 5 votes by June 24, 2005;

This is an important article and needs immediate attention and can be tremendously improved. It is quite shabby and incomplete at present. History of India article, just like Geography of India should be in top notch quality. I think this article should be the top priority.
 * Selected July 3.

Support Comments
 * 1)  deeptrivia
 * 2)  =Nichalp (Talk)= 06:11, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) SwiftRakesh 11:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) viyyer 18:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) IncMan 10:48, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Sundar June 28, 2005 05:35 (UTC)
 * 7) kaal 3 July 2005 06:25 (UTC)
 * As usual I can help with copyediting and perhaps write a summary of the Cholas etc. -- June 28, 2005 05:35 (UTC)
 * Indian history deserves a better article. --IncMan 10:48, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)


 * So the next COTW is History of India. Please contribute as much as you can!
 * I've decided to wait a while. The History of India is very long, and best we rope in some contributors. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  12:15, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think it makes sense. We need more contributors since there's a lot of work required. The article is in a pathetic state right now. deeptrivia


 * What happened to the 17 members of INCOTW? Can't see them voting on any topic!! deeptrivia 28 June 2005 05:31 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia. :-) -- Sundar June 28, 2005 05:35 (UTC)

Article Request: There is no article about the Mahajanapadas. ( Anga, Assaka (Asmaka), Avanti, Chedi, Gandhara, Kasi, Kosala, Kuru, Kamboja, Magadha, Matsya, Malla, Panchala, Surasena, Vajji and Vamsa (Vatsa).) Muwaffaq 3 July 2005 08:32 (UTC)


 * Article requests should not be placed here. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  July 3, 2005 09:13 (UTC)


 * Sorry, this was related to History of India, so I thought it is the best place to bring this to attention. Muwaffaq 3 July 2005 23:00 (UTC)

Economy of India

 * ''Nominated July 3, 2005; selected Jul 24

This is one of the important article linked from the India page that needs to be upgraded to Featured Article status. See Economy of India for a rough idea of the scope of the article and is the page where the rewrite is happening.

Support Comments
 * 1) pamri July 3, 2005 13:52 (UTC)
 * 2)  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  July 3, 2005 14:02 (UTC)
 * 3) --H P Nadig 4 July 2005 04:53 (UTC)
 * 4) Saksham 6 July 2005 10:44 (UTC)
 * 5) Wikirao July 6, 2005 21:01 (UTC)
 * 6) --Bhadani 17:21, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Sundar \talk \contribs 12:47, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) I know, the rewrite of the History of India article will take some time, but added it here to drum up some support. You can help with this article by either working on the complementary Economic_history_of_India article or create stubs to red linked pages on the Talk:Economy of India/temp page. - pamri July 3, 2005 13:52 (UTC)
 * 2) You can also help in the rewrite by working on the stubs at Category:Economy of India stubspamri July 8, 2005 08:18 (UTC)
 * 3) The link referred above Talk:Economy of India/temp is to a redirect page to Economy of India.  Is there a temporary page still?   -- Wikirao 16:37, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll ask Pamri if the page should be deleted. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:59, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. -- Wikirao 19:13, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Indian independence movement

 * ''Nominated July 3, 2005; selected Aug 7.

The article is linked to History of India (the current collaboration), yet the sections of the article covering things between 1857 and 1947 are in diarray, and lacks mention of several key movements, and important freedom fighters. The article was posted as a Featured Article candidate in May 2005, but failed due to the misorganization of content. I believe this is a very important article regarding the history of India (and south asia too) and need to be improved.

Support
 * 1) Ragib 3 July 2005 20:17 (UTC)
 * 2)  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  July 4, 2005 07:01 (UTC)
 * 3) --Bhadani 4 July 2005 14:19 (UTC)

Military History of India

 * ''Nominated August 6, 2005; selected Sep 4

The present article is in such a bad shape. Highly inaccurate and theres a lot of POV. According to me, its a very important topic since India has fought 4 wars with Pakistan, 1 with China, carried out an operation to drive out the Portugese from India and has also participated in several UN operations. This is my 3rd nomination and I hope that this one doesn't go in the bin unlike my previous nominations. --User:Deepak gupta 19:17, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Support' Comments
 * 1) User:Deepak gupta 19:17, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:34, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) utcursch | talk 11:49, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Tu160m 02:12, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Cuisine of India
Too list heavy. No lead text. Has one section on Indian food prepared abroad, but nothing on food prepared within our borders. I have added some stuff (and will probably add more) to commons and organised it.
 * ''Nominated November 15, 2005

--Pamri 13:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Support
 * 1) --Pamri 13:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Cautious support, 'coz I dunno how much I can contribute. --Gurubrahma 13:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) The article looks more like a collection of lists. Many improvements are possible, for example, we can have a History section describing how Indian cuisine evolved and how it was influenced by different factors. We can also possibly have a complete series, like there is one for Chinese cuisine. It needs a lot of work and we'll need many more contributors. deeptrivia 13:42, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Gay rights in India

 * ''Nominated July 30, 2005

--Notquiteauden 19:11, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

There is woefully little anywhere on the internet, or otherwise on homosexuality in India, attitudes towards homosexuals and their current legal position etc. It remains something that is just not discussed at all. I think there is a significant need for some amount of concrete information either way on the situation in India. I realise that most of you are heterosexual Indian males who go to colleges in India, which I know are fairly homophobic. I can understand your apprehensions towards discussing an issue like this, but I ask that you look at it from the perspective of information creation, regardless of your own personal attitude or apprehensions regarding sexuality. The LGBT community in India exists, and is extremely marginalised. I think this collaboration might serve to provide more information about it, and help gay, lesbian Indians know more about their status, as well as help foreigners interested in Indian attitudes towards homosexuality. Please vote for it.--Notquiteauden 21:51, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Support Comments
 * 1) Sundar \talk \contribs 04:12, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) pamri 08:20, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * AFIK, our constitution expressly prohibits a host of sexual practices including homosex. Also, in our recent cultural history of 50 years (barring the very recent) discussing anything related to sex, let alone homosexuality, has been a taboo. All these make too little information available on this pertinent subject. Let us try our best. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 04:12, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * A good topic, but I suggest renaming it to Homosexuality in India, so we can give a broader treatment, including its existence in literature, historical perspective to its depiction in popular culture (where, lesbian==man-hating dyke, especially in bollywood.) etc., pamri 08:20, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Jagjivan Ram
It currently exists as a stub. He has been a Deputy Prime Minister of India and his story has lot of facets. Also, a lot of information is available on the web. To use a cliche, "is kahani mein action hai, romance hai, tragedy hai" and also sex - see Talk:Jagjivan_Ram for details. Gurubrahma 09:33, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * 1) . Support Deserves more than a stub. -- Pamri &bull; Talk 07:08, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Arts and entertainment in India
It is currently a stub, linking to overbroad topics. (Architecture, for example, instead of an Indian architecture article). Collaboration on this article would thus likely involve creating several other articles/lists for covering things like Indian architecture.

BTW, is this COTW thing still alive???

Vvuppala 19:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) I'd love to work on this, though I don't know how much I'll be able to contribute next couple of weeks.. deeptrivia (talk) 00:24, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Transport in India
Right now, it is mostly just a collection of numbers with hardly any text at all. Has tremendous potential to become a featured article if worked upon, and information/images etc are very easy to get. We gotta do it sometime. deeptrivia (talk) 13:24, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Support:
 * 1) A more basic article concerning India and easy to get information also. --Raghu 09:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

In order to make it more comprehensive, you may wish to add trams and metro rails as different modes of transport in India. - Sunetra --User: sunetra.b 09:58, 22 December 2005 (UTC)