Wikipedia talk:Notice board for Pakistan-related topics/Archive 1

Liaquat Ali Khan
I have greatly improved the article regarding LIAQUAT ALI KHAN and have asked for a peer review for the article. I have tagged all the images and have wikified and also provided numerous source citations. Recently it recieve a "B" rating from wikipedia Biography portal. So I ask you to review and give me suggestion so we can improve it.
 * I've added another informal review with suggestions on Liaquat's talk board. Hope this helps! -- TinaSparkle 22:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Government & Politics
There is a lot of unnecessary information in this section, making it long and unorganized. Current events do not belong in this section. If anyone is up for cleaning this section up, take a look at other "government & politics" sections on WP first to see what I'm talking about. Thanks. Afinebalance 01:20, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Actor politicians?
Hi, are there any articles on Wikipedia about Pakistani actor-politicians? If there are any, you may want to add the Category:Actor-politicians to such articles. Thanks, --Gurubrahma 06:10, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Featured Articles Collaborations
Does anyone have any interest in doing collaboration efforts in order to turn articles in featured articles? It looks like the Pakistan article will soon be featured and there are several Pakistan related articles that are not far from being featured as well. Pepsidrinka 05:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I would be interested in collaboration as I note this noticeboard seems a little neglected. Green Giant 06:02, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Off the top of my head, I know there are several articles that are close to featured article status. Military of Pakistan, History of Pakistan, and 2005 South Asia earthquake all are extensive articles that greatly cover their respective topics. Personally, I would want to make the latter featured due to its international prominence in the news. Though more people probably know less about the military and history of Pakistan, more people would probably be interested in reading a full article about the earthquake. Incidently, the military and the earthquake articles have already been through a FAC so there will be, hopefully, less obstacles once those issues are addressed. I'd like to hear if anyone else has any additonal thoughts, whether on these particular articles, or another article not addressed. Pepsidrinka 14:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Pakistan Ready to use !
I have just got the Portal:Pakistan up and running and it is ready to use, I will continue updating it with articles and images as the weeks go on. Last Friday was WEEK ONE as i posted the first ariticle and image for the portal and I shall change the article and image this friday 24 March 2006, so if you have any ideas let me know.

Some things that need to be sorted;


 * This noticeboard is in no condition to be used. I think it needs to be rewritten and reader friendly. We need more collaborations and wikiprojects as their is a lot of sorting out to be done. Lots of articles are almost featured articles e.g. Economy of Pakistan, Transportation in Pakistan that could be reviewed by an external user to check grammer and tenses.


 * We need to put more awareness of the Portal and noticeboard so we can attract more users that may have alot background knowledge on Pakistan.
 * We need more templates, look at the following styles used on the Indian noticeboard, maybe someone can make some similiar ones for Pakistan, with colours of gold, silver, white and dark green to represent the national and political flags;

Templates from Indian noticeboard


 * We have a new Pakistan Wiki-moniker, that can be changed to create specific monikers for people working on Pakistan article; e.g. A person working on economic articles may like to add a Rupee (RS) sign to the Wiki-moniker etc..

Lets get going !! Fast track 06:03 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Defence Housing Authority
Could someone please look at Defence Housing Authority, Karachi? I have no idea what parts are true and just need cleaning and wikifying, and what parts are completely made up. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 12:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Need your help
I will appreciate any help or support about the article Dhimmi. The article is full with propoganda against Islam. Read its talk page Talk:Dhimmi and main article. --- Faisal 17:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

NPOV map of India
Hi! I've made a hi-res SVG map of India and have put it up as a featured picture candidate on Featured picture candidates/Blank map of India. I've tried to make the map as neutral as possible encompassing each country's claim and administration. If you have any comments on it please let me know on Image talk:India-locator-map-blank.svg. Thanks and regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  06:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Jinnah
Great job with the organization guys, keep it up. I have one important request to make. Why are we letting some indians get away with calling Jinnah controversial in his Wikipedia article?? Surely that can be mentioned later than the first paragraph.

Is there anything untrue about the following:

Jinnah is celebrated as a great leader in Pakistan where the people revere him as the hero who helped fulfill their centuries-long aspiration of having a separate state for the Muslims of the Subcontinent. Critics, mostly Indian, who view the partition of India as a great tragedy often criticise Jinnah because of his highly influential role in the creation of Pakistan.

If not, then why do the Indians keep cutting it out? Also, compare that to Gaandi's page...look how flowery it is

Remember people, without Jinnah there is no Pakistan or India let alone Bangladesh!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.25.124.253 (talk • contribs).
 * I think your suggested paragraph seriously contravenes Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, I'm afraid. For example, how can you prove that "the people" of Pakistan revere him? All the people? Just logically it would seem likely that some don't like him at all. Do you have impartial surveys to back up how many Pakistanis revere him? You just can't make this kind of statement without evidence. Similarly, you can't say that most of his critics are Indian, unless you can prove it. Personally I think it quite likely that a large number of his critics are Indian, especially bearing in mind that there are a billion Indians, but this isn't the point! You can't make generalisations.


 * Meanwhile, your assertion that implicitly all Muslims had demanded a separate state in the subcontinent for centuries is just factually wrong. Some may have, but not all. Even in 1946 about 25% of Muslim voters in India voted against the Muslim League. In the 1930s it was over 95%.


 * Incidentally, I agree with you that the Gandhi article is flowery, but that's a separate problem. We would set a far better example if, instead of aping the Gandhi article, we made sure Jinnah's was fair, neutral and encyclopedic. -- TinaSparkle 22:20, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Mass communication
Please see Wikipedia talk:Mass communication in Pakistan. Some of these student essays could probably do with some help. -- RHaworth 15:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Articles on Northern Pakistan
See this set of placemarks: Northern Pakistan - highly detailed placemarks of towns, villages, peaks, glaciers, rivers and minor tributaries in Google Earth

How about a collaboration on the places mentioned here that have no articles on wikipedia? Because all the placemarks show everything around a town or a village or a peak, we could start by adding the location, the district and the surroundings of the subject. Once we have articles, others who know more about the places will start adding to it. Otherwise, one is very reluctant to start a new page because one doesn't know much about it. Like if you know an interesting bit about Rupal Valley but it's a non-existing page, it's unlikely that you'd create a new article on it, if you get what I mean... Waqas.usman 21:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

AfD
Articles for deletion/Newsletters in Pakistan is on AfD. Looks an obvious delete unless someone cleans it up. Do you guys have any interest in reviving WikiProject Deletion sorting/Pakistan (actually, it was never alive) ? Tintin (talk) 02:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

"India" link
Has anyone noticed that the page's first "India" link goes to the page "raccoon"? (I wonder how that happened?!) Fix this now.

Article for deletion
If anyone is monitoring this page, your input at Articles for deletion/Allahdad Bohyo would be appreciated. -Medtopic 05:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notice board for India-related topics/India disambiguation discussion
Hi All - please weigh-in on this important discussion. This Fire Burns.....Always  05:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

India -> India + Pakistan + Bangladesh
There is a discussion going on related to India before and after 1947. Following is statement which gives you idea, please read whole discussion before editing:

'''India after 1947 consists of three countries, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. When we use word India, in articles, refereeing to whole India, links are such that they bring us to present day India (Republic of India), reducing size of pre-1947 India considerably. Is it possible that when we refer to pre-1947 India we use a term which encompasses whole India not just present day India? Please comment.''' This is ridiculous.India was no more of a country pre-1947 than Pakistan.Indicating that pre-British south Asia was "India" is like indicating that olden day east Asia was "China" Ive discussed this too many times before.Nadirali 06:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics/India_disambiguation_discussion

--Spasage 06:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Standard naming scheme
Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Regional notice boards. Zocky | picture popups 00:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Grammar article location
Input is desired on the best solution for the location for the article(s) covering Hindi/Urdu/Hindustani grammar. Thanks all. - Taxman Talk 05:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Pakistanis, I need your help
To the Noble Pakistani Community:
 * Hi and salaam, I am 10:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC) of the Philippine Wikipedian Community. I found a video featuring your national anthem in www.youtube.com which I feel is very beautiful and very fitting for the national anthem article. I wish to link it to the article regarding your national anthem (sorry, forgot the title) and as citizens of the country article I will be working on, I wish to ask for your permission to grant me this request. Any help will be appreciated. Please reply on my talk page and on the page about Philippine related articles for the notice of the Filipino community. May God's blessing be with you all. --Justox dizaola 10:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Salaam once again. have you checked out the link i gave. please give a reaction, thank you. May Allah bless us all. Shad Bad. Zindabad. --Justox dizaola 11:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead and feel free to use it.However I think,you will need permission from the person who created that video before you post it not really us.Nadirali 05:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Help with translations
I'm currently working on a script intended to create short articles on political parties on a variety of wikipedias simultaneously. However, in order for the technique to work I need help with translations to various languages. If you know any of the languages listed at User:Soman/Lang-Help, then please help by filling in the blanks. For example I need help with Urdu. Thanks, --Soman 12:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Email section
I think there should be a personal email section for pakistani wikipedians incase one needs to comunicate in depth with fellow pak wikipedians.Omerlives

Sending notices
Is it possible to send a general note to many people en masse? Or atleast say all the wiki users listed on a particular page such as Pakistani Wikipedians page?Omerlives 09:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There is nothing that is supported by the wikipedia software. You'll have to mail individually or create an external mailing list. Tintin (talk) 05:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Deletion list
I have updated and will be updating the deletion sorting list for Pakistan. Those interested please have a look at the articles and decide if they can be saved -- Lost(talk) 16:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Theatre in Pakistan
I've just finished a very basic cleanup of Theatre in Pakistan. It could sure use a looking over by someone more familiar with the topic. Whitejay251 22:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK
The DYK section featured on the main page is always looking for interesting new and recently expanded stubs from different parts of the world. Please make a suggestion.--Peta 02:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

FA updates
Hi - just to note that I've included these two FAs as Pakistan-related FA content, as it is pertinent to the colonial-era history. Rama's arrow 21:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


 * 1) British East India Company (FAC)
 * 2) Governor-General of India (FAC)

Evolution in Pakistan (would be useful for Creation-Evolution controversy
A number of editors seem recall reading that either evolution was banned from universities in Pakistan or that it was officially not taught. However, attempts to find a source for the statement have failed. Assistance by editors who know more about the Pakistani situation or have more knowledge about where to look for sources would be appreciated. JoshuaZ 03:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Isolated cases may exist but Pakistan Academy of Sciences is a signatory of IAP Statement on the teaching of evolution dated 21st June 2006. -- Isle ScapeTalk 15:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Akhtar Hameed Khan for Peer review
Article on Dr Akhtar Hameed Khan is up for peer review. Please feel free to edit the page or post suggestions/comments at Peer review/Akhtar Hameed Khan/archive1 -- Isle  Scape  12:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Save Phajje ke Paye!
The article Phajje ke Paye is up for deletion because of doubts whether it is notable or not. Please vote to keep the article on the following page: Deletion review/Log/2006 December 16. And please try to improve the Phajje ke Paye article also if you can. --Barastert 06:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please note that the article is not up for deletion, since the Deletion review is not an AfD process. Also note that the discussion is not even about the notability, but about verifiability issues "due to multiple possible translations of the name into the English alphabet." But most importantly: never engage in voter canvassing. Argue your case, as you have done on the deletion review, but do not request others to vote to keep the article. A  ecis  Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 11:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Noor Leghari
This article has been the subject of a lengthy edit-war between IPs, it seems they may even be individuals personally acquainted with the article's subject. I'd appreciate if someone could have a look at it. Cheers,  Tewfik Talk 02:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Outreach dept
I have created the outreach department for Wikiproject Pakistan, though there are still lots of red links. I have also redirected the talk page of the project to this discussion board, so that discussion be kept centralised. &mdash; Lost (talk) 10:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Islamabad
Somebody sould write something about the history of the capital and that it was constructed around 1960.--134.76.234.75 17:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Qazi Hussain Ahmad
Hi. I recently categorized the article Qazi Hussain Ahmad which had become uncategorized after a content dispute. I suppose people in this project are more likely to know who this man is and to find the relevant reliable sources. In any case, I suggest someone (or somefew!) take a look at it because edit wars have swung the content wildly in the past. Thanks for your help, Pascal.Tesson 01:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Pakistan national football team
I've edited the layout of the current squad table of Pakistan national football team to be consistent with that of other countries (see for instance Netherlands national football team), but there's a lot of information I can't find. I would like to ask anyone who has more information on the current national team players to edit the table and add information. A ecis Bravado 00:04, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Khan Habibullah Khan
The page Khan Habibullah Khan has been undergoing a slow edit war for the past several months since I saved it from AfD by cutting it down to a stub and providing a few references that indicated that he was indeed a notable Pakistani politician. The article right now has become an awful mess that I can't sort out or make heads or tails of. The several editors on the page go back and forth disputing references and whatnot. It needs wikification badly, but I'm not sure what stuff is junk and what stuff should be kept, so I thought I'd bring the issue up here. Best, Irongargoyle 22:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

National holiday
Can someone correct this, please. The way it is now, it is rather tempting to come and work in Pakistan because you seem to have about 35 national holidays :-) Tintin 04:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Taj Mahal RFC

 * I've filed an RFC relating to the Taj Mahal at Talk:Taj Mahal. Your comments would be most welcome. --Joopercoopers 11:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Need help with a user
You can read the full report at here. Basically, is moving articles by cut and pasting them instead of using the "move" functionality, generating history splits. The user has been warned several times to stop doing so, but he apparently does not acknowledge the messages, or he forgets about them. Articles that currently need a history merge (or at least, administrator intervention in order to fix the moves) are: I am not sure whether the new names used by this user or not are correct, that is why I am asking here. Also, note that the user creates unnecessary redirects for films (in example, he created Larki Panjaban (2003 film), a redirect to Larki Panjaban which is not necessary because the target article needs no disambiguation, and then links the disambiguation to List of Lollywood films instead of linking Larki Panjaban directly. I would appreciate if someone from this WikiProject could contact him in his native language, explain to him that he must use the "move" functionality instead of copy/pasting articles, that disambiguations are not really needed, and invite him to this WikiProject so that he can contact you for questions. It becomes a nuisance having to track through his contributions to see if he has done redirects in the wrong way, especially when so many redirects are not really necessary. Thanks in advance. -- ReyBrujo 15:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Daily Express, Pakistan to Daily Express (Urdu Newspaper)
 * 2) Mahmudabad, Pakistan to Mahmudabad (Karachi)
 * 3) List of universities in Karachi District to List of universities in Karachi
 * 4) Buffer Zone-I to Buffer Zone II
 * 5) Godhra Karachi to Godhra (Karachi)
 * 6) Khokhra Par (neighborhood) to Khokhra Par (Karachi)
 * 7) Muzafarabad Karachi to Muzafarabad (Karachi)
 * 8) Civic Centre Karachi to Civic Centre (Karachi)
 * 9) Sui (Pakistan) to Sui (Balochistan)

Naik Mohammedal family of Birote
Can some experienced Pakistani editors take a look at the articles referenced in Articles for deletion/Naik Mohammedal family of Birote? It's really difficult to dig through this mess, as there might be some encyclopedic value, but it's well hidden behind layers of creator's family history. Duja ► 14:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Redundant category
You should be aware that Category:WikiProject Pakistan has a redundant duplicate category, Category:Pakistan WikiProjects. This format is deprecated for subcategories of Category:Regional WikiProjects. It is recommended that the latter category's pages be migrated to the former category and that the latter category then be deleted. -Silence 02:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Wildlife of Pakistan
Kindly contribute to this article when you get time, and request others too.

Thanks

Atulsnischal 13:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup request
Hi. I've just wikified Mian Manzoor Ahmad Wattoo. I know nothing on the politics of Pakistan but the text seemed suspect as it was HTML formatted. It has a great chance of being some copyvio from I don't know where. I'd appreciate if someone from the project can take a look and perhaps clean it up a bit. Thanks. Pascal.Tesson 18:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Balochistan Conflict
I am going to start work on the article and would appreciate pointers from experienced users. Also would appreciate if you could go over it once I am done with this absolutely worthless article Balochistan conflict in it's current state. WashFM 18:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I made few changes on article to Make it neutral as it was totally one side story. Khalidkhoso 00:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You can check grammatical mistakes try to write be neutral

with your work. Khalidkhoso 00:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Add Pakistani Tag on Artilces
Please add this tag to every Pakistani related article there are thousand of article which belong to Pakistan are un-tag when ever you visit any Pakistani topic just tag it. Khalidkhoso 00:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

"Persecution and Apartheid" ??
I really dont get the usage of such a section on the main wiki page for Pakistan. While it is true that these practices have been the product of the religious-right here but having this section on the main page is blowing this out of proportion. Suprah™ 21:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

A little help
I dont know if I am allowed to, but could someone archive this talk page, and could someone also fix the template on the Main Page (of Wiki Project Pakistan). Its posted right on top of existing text.

-- Unre4L  ﺍﹸﻧﺮﮮﺍﻝ  UT 23:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)