Wikipedia talk:Redirects for discussion/Cross-namespace

There are a number of "bad titles" in there that might be served by a protected redlink. Agathoclea 10:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

List of X &rArr; Category:X
It seems to me that most of these list→category redirects are probably the result of AfDs on the original lists. I see no particular reason for deleting any of them, although I don't see much reason for keeping the ones that are already orphaned and have been for some time either. Does anyone else have an opinion on these? It does seem somewhat silly to have an AfD closed as "redirect to category" only to have someone else come along and delete the resulting cross-namespace redirect. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 14:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * What? Common sense expected, you must be joking! Maybe an option would be to insert a redirecttocatafterAFD and filter that from the list. Agathoclea 17:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Ilmari. Generally, redirects of the form "List of X" to "Category:X" should be kept, provided that the "X" in both items is substantially identical.  However, if there's a redirect "List of X" to "Category:Y" where X is a subset of Y, that should be deleted. YechielMan 16:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Shortcut
Should I give the project page the shortcut WP:RFD-XNR? It fits the page. TRKtv (daaaaah!) 03:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

proposed mass deletion
The proposed "mass deletion" of the redirects on this page is a bad idea. While many of these redirects ought to go, many have history or serve some other purpose that requires investigation and discussion before deciding to kill the redirect. Nominate them individually on RFD and let the process work. You could perhaps nominate a class of very similar redirects (like the "list of -> category") but keep the class small enough that the discussion is relevant. Rossami (talk) 13:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that mass deletion isn't a good idea. We need to at least look at incoming links.  Another thing to mention is that if these get deleted with little or no discussion, many of them will be recreated over time, mostly by people unaware of the original deletion.  It would probably save time in the long run to get some of this stuff into guidelines (e.g. "don't redirect from mainspace to wikiprojects", assuming there's a consensus for that).  This would only be for things that are likely to get recreated.  If we get a strong consensus to delete a large, well defined category, we might consider adding it to CSD R2.  Dave 6 talk  01:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Categories
I rearranged this list into categories at User:Dave6/Cross-namespace redirects. Some of them are probably small enough and similar enough to discuss as a group at RfD. Dave 6 talk 04:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)