Wikipedia talk:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 June 4

Worst Headphones Ever

 * I'm sorry about this, but I attempted to comment and User:BDD already speedily closed it. The advice at RfD is they are "generally open for about seven days": not seven minutes. I am sorry to disagree with BDD, who I respect immensely, but I had three s with BDD trying to speedily close when I was trying to comment. Patently, if others are not allowed to comment, that is a bit sharpish to close it that way. I agree that it is not WP:RNEUTRAL, and attempted to say so, but the edit conflicts got in the way. I don't mind it is deleted, but I think it was a bit rash to do so. Nuff said, let's all get on with making Wikipedia better. Si Trew (talk) 14:13, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Strange. Your comment is still there, you just put it above an earlier one. See? I've noticed a lag in the servers that past couple of days, where I've frequently made updates that then don't show until I refresh. I'll restore your comment here—this may be something to look out for or report. --BDD (talk) 14:15, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I kinda didn't, that must have been the . I was linking bluebottle and tin can, but didn't want to modify it (the strict instructions at the RFD bottom'}}. No hard feelings, it should be deleted and no problem with that, but it made a bit of a muck of what I was trying to write. So what, we get there and that is the important thing. Si Trew (talk) 14:19, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually I seem to appear twice in the closing comments. Do you want to kinda edit the close? I shan't object. It's just a muck with the edit conflicts: I'd take the first one out and leave the second. Si Trew (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've noticed that too: not so much on server lag but on that when I refresh a page I don't always get the refreshed page, especially after an edit (and as you know I tend to bit-by-bit translate from French etc) it used automatically to purge to give you the refreshed page, and now it doesn't. I can't put my finger on it but something has changed in the Wikimedia software, that it doesn't do that. I was assuming it was just my ISP's cache, with the HTTP Time To Live tag or whatever it is, (bollox, we don't even have Time To Live. now I will have to make that one: We do have hop (networking) which might do) but I think it comes from the horse's mouth and not from the cacheing along the way. Si Trew (talk) 14:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, we have Time to live. The reason I put caps initials is that it is usually abbreviated TTL, but I was well aware that would probably be a DAB, as indeed it is. Si Trew (talk) 08:11, 5 June 2015 (UTC)