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Request for edit stats
Can somebody with better IT skills than me add the stats here? Thanks, --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 17:32, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Here they are: 103.6.159.90 (talk) 18:42, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Edit stats moved up, updated, section for this thread made and TOC manually added. --QEDK ( T &#10052;  C ) 08:22, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For future reference, adding Example  produces the above. Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 01:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I OPPOSE!!!
If IPs aren't allowed to vote, why should they become admins. This is clearly a half baked IP user, running here. —cyber power  Merry Christmas:Unknown 01:39, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

High turnout
I have been struck by the very high turnout for both of the current RfAs. I assume this is because of the additional notice that is now being given to the community whenever there is an active RfA. There were some worries that the additional publicity might attract vandals and mindless or silly !votes, but I have been impressed by the quality as well as the quantity of the comments (with a single exception that has been dealt with). --MelanieN (talk) 19:31, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, the increase in input is noticeable. Now there has been some bickering in the other RfA but not on the ballot box itself, so to speak.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I was also surprised that both RfAs are passing almost unanimously. It may be too early to tell, but maybe these watchlist notices will somehow result in more supports, more passes, and therefore more admins. Biblio  worm  21:40, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's too early to assume this to be the case, these are two good candidates, but it's almost definitely the case that we have more participation because of the watchlist notice. Sam Walton (talk) 17:03, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Could well be to do with both these candidates also having a number of supporters from their poll follow them over? Though I do agree the watchlist and CENT notice has contributed :) -- samtar whisper 17:36, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess whoever has the poll on their watchlist have RfA at their watchlist as well.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:47, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism
For some reason, someone is using multiple accounts/IP addresses to vandalise this RfA. I've been reverting it for a while here, is there anything that can be done? Orphan Wiki 22:39, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * There was similar vandalism on Requests for adminship/BethNaught, which was semi-protected. In addition, I've filed an SPI at Sockpuppet investigations/FasuerNibje. clpo13(talk) 22:41, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, thank you :) Orphan Wiki  22:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Joseph2302's oppose

 * 1) Oppose Not enough article content for me, only 1 GA. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I assume this wasn't numbered intentionally, because obvious joke is obvious..right? S warm   ♠  02:30, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I am a little confused by the 'oppose' comments. If you have serious concerns, please elaborate. - Ret.Prof (talk) 13:11, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've restored this comment to the indent state used by its author (special:Diff/695836844). if you intended to register a numbered opposition to this candidate, please return to your comment and add a number sign/hash mark (#) to the beginning. –xenotalk  13:30, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I did mean to actually vote oppose, I just don't see how 1 GA qualifies someone for adminship. To be honest, I'm kind of offended that assumed it was just a joke. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * A fuller explanation of why GA and adminship go hand-in-hand couldn't hurt (especially considering 78.26 has created over 100 articles). Opposing solely because a candidate has only had one article manage to get through the long, grueling process of GA does seem a bit harsh. clpo13(talk) 23:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * - Surely you realize that admin selection should be based on a totality of attributes and accomplishments, and not just the number of GA articles authored? I oppose your oppose. - the WOLF  child  03:42, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Absolutely no offense was intended, I quite honestly thought it was a joke. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to see a potential admin have actual content work, but in that respect this candidate has contributed substantially, with over a hundred articles added to the encyclopedia. It's really pretty impressive, and most people would assign that more credit than a few GAs. Your oppose seems exceptionally harsh to me as well. Not all content writers participate in the GA/FA process, and that certainly doesn't ever disqualify them from adminship. You're entitled to your own RfA standards, but that seems like a pretty arbitrary thing to single out and oppose over. S warm   ♠  04:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Joseph, can we assume that you missed the part where 78 has created 131 articles and has 41 DYKs? If you're looking for content, it's there. Swarm might have gone too far by indenting, but I suspect he and I are equally flabbergasted right now. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 07:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * For the record, it was originally indented. I didn't do it. :P S warm   ♠  07:26, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Joseph2302 is entitled to his opinion. If the candidate has created numerous articles but only one of them is ranked good, one might think that the rest are not so good.  My impression is that this is a systemic problem due mainly to the unrewarding nature of the GA process; I've not found it motivating myself.  In so far as the RfA process gives some weight to edit count but not so much to the quality of those edits and articles, then it's arguably part of the problem.  Perhaps we can ask the candidate why it is that only one article is GA rather than most of them?  What is it about the process or topics that has been holding them back? Andrew D. (talk) 09:44, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That one, I can answer.  If one has worked on a substantial article, then bringing it to GA status is a bit of a gauntlet.  If one makes a horde of articles on, say, geographical features (small residential subdivision "lakes" etc.) (where the verifiability of claims is hyper-simple), then the gauntlet is far easier.  "GA"s are not all equal -- in my opinion the work on a "difficult" article should be far more important and valued than "counting coup" for easy articles. (I suspect I am the only person who took a massively bloated article and whittled it down to GA status,  and I found that an interesting experience.  My other GA was for an article which had a long history of POV-fights,  which I also found to be an interesting excursion.  I am banned from seeking a third GA on an article on an American writer who intersects with "US Politics broadly defined") but Mark Twain should be brought up to GA status again, for sure.)    Collect (talk) 14:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * While I don't agree with the oppose, we had a far more dubious one left standing in the previous RfA.--Staberinde (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I have tried to answer 's question, please see question #12. (and, er, 13).    78.26   (spin me / revolutions) 16:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Excellent answer to #13. GA/FA/A^3 article creation as a litmus test will exclude a tremendous number of qualified requestors. None of my articles wil ever be GA, but there is now information there that was previously absent.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(ring-ring)  16:57, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

has deliberately vandalised Wikipedia lately (with this offensive edit where he moves the Ipswich Town F.C. article to "Tractor scum") and refused to acknowledge it. Despite being a long-term editor, this kind of edit is clearly indicative of an editor who is not here to improve the Wikipedia. I suggest the !vote is entirely disregarded. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Although, his reason for opposition is pointless, Wikipedia is not censored and we cannot control the voters' criteria for supporting or opposing any RfA candidate. Ultimately, we know that the wishes of the community will preside over the wishes of the individual, (kind of like fascism, eh?) so let us not take this up a notch. --QEDK ( T &#10052;  C ) 04:55, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Would have liked to have been pinged to this discussion, as it raises a number of interesting points. Most notably, having read the answer to #13, I see that many of my concerns have been alleviated. My main concern was that DYK take a comparatively small amount of effort, whereas GA take a lot of effort, which made me question their commitment levels (why aren't more of the articles GA?). I think their answer to #13 alleviates these concerns, as the reason for the articles not being GA is the lack of available information, not 78.26 lack of commitment to the articles once created. Assuming this were still open, I'd probably retract my oppose vote. Also I agree that Wikipedia is based on consensus, but I think people should be entitled to their opinions- after all, discussions are good and can help create a consensus. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:27, 24 December 2015 (UTC)