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Sign copyright

 * 1) I am not convinced with the answer to the question about the sign in public view. Speedy deletion tagging for everything apart from the no context ones is OK. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, it appears the candidate is confusing public view and public domain. PhilKnight (talk) 12:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Frankly, that answer was based more on my observation of other images than any particular part of image policy. For example Pedestrian crossing has a wide array of photographs of public signs, and many articles on businesses have photographs of a sign. I just scanned over the image us policy and it doesn't seem to have any information on regulatory signs posted in public places. I make no claim of being an expert in image use, indeed I've had to ask for help with it on more than one occasion, but I think I posses a basic understanding of the policy. (if there is actually a problem with this image that needs addressing please let me know on my talk page). Beeblebrox (talk) 16:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Most signs would be ineligible for copyright because they consist of information that is common property, and don't contain any original authorship, but not because they're on public display. PhilKnight (talk) 17:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this incorrect? photographers rights. If correct, other than the exceptions such as military, would a picture of a sign in a public place be allowed?--  SPhilbrick  T  18:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Copyrighted items in the background of an image are usually OK. If the copyrighted material is the main focus of the image (such as the example given), then it may very well have a copyright issue.  The real question is whether the sign itself could be copyrighted, and while it's not a completely clear cut legal question, the answer is probably "yes", if the sign contains significant text that someone had to write, and design elements like curved lines. Gigs (talk) 19:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This is an interesting conversation but it seems to be wandering outside the scope of RFA. Anyhoo, would that mean, for example, that the images of crosswalks and don't walk signs at Pedestrian crossing are copyvios? And even if the image that started this thread was copyrighted, could it be used under a claim of fair use since it directly illustrates something relevant to the subject of the article? Beeblebrox (talk) 19:47, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree this is off-topic for the RFA, but most signs of the type identified are unlikely to meet the threshold of originality which - in some regions - would make it uncopyrightable anyway. Just a FYI and probably we should move this thread to talk? Pedro : Chat  20:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's right, a lot of basic signs wouldn't be copyrightable. It really depends on what's on the sign, and how much design went into it.   In some cases, signs designed by federal employees are public domain anyway. Gigs (talk) 20:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That link clinches it for me. If Skyy vodka couldn't copyright the label on their own bottle, I doubt a generic sign design with text that is part of the public record is copyrightable. This is important to me actually as I just came back from a camping trip on which I took several photos that included signs that I have since added to articles. I can't think of a better way to explain the problems with moose on the road than this . Beeblebrox (talk) 21:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * In that moose example, I think the threshold of originality has been exceeded, but the two smaller signs in the picture would be free of copyright due to being too simple. Anyway the purpose of the question is to find a copyright issue that you would have some interest in! To see how you respond and whether you can look up the relevant policy/rules and learn from it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Hazara Democratic Party (version 1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Hazara%20Democratic%20Party

Deletion log Page history
 * 12:57, May 4, 2009 Anthony Appleyard deleted "Hazara Democratic Party" ‎ (A3: Article has no meaningful, substantive content)
 * 06:52, February 12, 2009 Dekimasu deleted "Hazara Democratic Party" ‎ (G3: Vandalism)
 * 05:36, February 12, 2009 C.Fred deleted "Hazara Democratic Party" ‎ (G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP)
 * 23:58, May 3, 2009 . . Beeblebrox (832 bytes) (Requesting speedy deletion (CSD A3). (TW))
 * 18:32, May 3, 2009 . . Beeblebrox (815 bytes) (minor fixes)
 * 18:15, May 3, 2009 . . Beeblebrox (829 bytes) (fine, but it better get good soon)
 * 18:13, May 3, 2009 . . Hazaraboys (832 bytes) (I have created a page for HDP.)
 * Addition of infobox, Politics of Pakistan, beginning of a lead sentence with name in Urdu, and ".::Under construction::.".
 * 05:45, February 12, 2009 . . Eeekster (210 bytes) (db-g3)
 * 05:43, February 12, 2009 . . Hazara lovers (199 bytes) (←Created page with 'HDP ( Hazara Drinkers Party was established in 2004 in leadership of the faouns Hazara drinker and PLay boy Mr.Abdul Khaliq dad Hazara, who gave no chance to drink ...')
 * 05:36, February 12, 2009 . . Hazara lovers (34 bytes) (←Created page with 'HDP or Hazara Drinkers Party')

Erik Lyle Waldahl
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Erik_Lyle_Waldahl

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 * 16:40, May 24, 2009 Malcolmxl5 deleted "Erik Lyle Waldahl" ‎ (A3: Article has no meaningful, substantive content)

Page history
 * 15:32, May 24, 2009 . . Beeblebrox (38 bytes) (Requesting speedy deletion (CSD A3). (TW))
 * 15:31, May 24, 2009 . . Jj137 (21 bytes) (template for ya)
 * replaced content with " "
 * 15:31, May 24, 2009 . . Ewldhl (36 bytes) (←Created page with 'under construction - please stand by')
 * Only content "under construction - please stand by"