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Personal Thoughts
Here's my own personal babble of this experience so far. I think the RfA process has really changed since I was last nominated in January. Last time it was just a volley of CSD questions and doubts about my edit history considering I was only active for three months. I was told with consistent contributions that I would easily obtain adminship in time. I think I did just that, in fact adding 10,000 edits before trying again would have/should have worked. I think sometimes "Admin is not a big deal" has been thrown out the window.

Another thought, why focus on one diff and dedeuce that I am without decency to respond to someone? Could it really be that I am such a horrible person or that I am an eliteist? If so, why should I go through this process? Elitests only seek self-reassurance, assurance from others don't factor in any more than fueling the patient's egotistical tendancies. Or could it just be one diff where the responce was overlooked? Could it be possible that human error, and thus defining me as not a bot, that caused this? Sure administrators should understand policies, guidelines, and should set a good example. But is it a prerequisite for any administrator to have a perfect slate (candidate or current admin)? If so, I think Administrators for Recall would be flooded with requests the second this is acknowledged. If not, can voters not see past this and not pile on oppose votes?

I think I am a very reasonable person when it comes to certain things. I don't think I'm an egotistical maniac or a self-centered asswipe, in fact I'm known to crack jokes about myself, especially if I make an error. At this point, I can only hope that voters during this RfA may keep their minds open and do some edit-history hunting of their own. Copy and pasting a URL from a previous oppose vote is easy, but is it productive? Is that really constructive criticism? I think not. And simple "as per" votes are even worse. I'm not going to be a hypocrite and accuse them of not having the decency of at leaast copy and pasting a URL if you're going to regurjitate, but I will ask for an original thought along with the vote. Even if it is a humorous original thought, like "Oppose as per John Smith. Jackie Chan is awesome!!! ~ ", it is better than a simple pile-on.

I understand if you have doubts about me, and frankly after the Hooked on Phonics metaphor I'm sure I will cause more oppose votes to pile on the list, but I ask this, was I wrong to come out and say this? Am I wrong to be straight-forward? Is is wrong for me to hold back the truth and the whole truth if I am under review, much like if I were to be testifying in court? Granted I would probably be held in contempt if I mumbled a similar metaphor in court, but I digress.

I will let this process ride out its length, regardless of how messy this RfA will become. This is not because I'm trying to be pointy, but I think I am man enough to face up to my own actions on Wikipedia, or else I wouldn't have accepted the nomination.  - Jameson L. Tai   talk ♦  contribs  08:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Majorly vs. Realist2
Get off of it, Majorly. Cast your vote and take a seat. Jennavecia (Talk)  02:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just noting a similar RfA here. Realist2, Xp54321 and America69, who have all opposed for lack of getting a pretty trophy for article work, all supported that candidate, despite that candidate having only really vandal fighting experience. That was only 2 months ago. Double standards here?  Majorly  talk  00:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not for me, over time peoples view on what makes a good or bad admin chances according to either interaction with admins. My criteria has changed rather recently. Try to go with good faith in the future, I know that tends to be a stretch for you, just give it a go though, for the rest of us like. Cheers ;-) — Realist  2  01:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's difficult to AGF when you've supported other people with similar backgrounds in the recent past. Have those supports suddenly become invalid? It's also difficult to AGF when you've been told by numerous editors your criteria is well above the expected level of most users. I find it amusing you're interested in adminship, looking at your userpage. You have some serious studying to do if you think adminship has anything to do with gaining rewards for articles.  Majorly  talk  02:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Majorly listen carefully. Wikipedia is fluid, thinks change, peoples opinions change. My criteria was set up very recently, in fact I'm still tweaking it weekly. If you notice I have made accommodations for other peoples view of MY criteria. Tempting as it is to tell people to Fuck off and let me express my individual opinion. My experience at wikipedia changes a lot in two months, I've only been what I would consider very active for about 7 months.
 * If you don't want to go with good faith that's fine, be my guest. It's a shame that your still getting crazy about these RfA's. Sure my views chance, sometimes too quickly maybe, but hell you could do with a change of outlook too. It's overdue. — Realist  2  02:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I could start opposing every RfA for every reason under the sun, but I reckon I'd get WP:POINT shoved in my face. What exactly do you want me to change?  Majorly  talk  02:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't you start your own RfC? I'm sure there was plenty of advise in there. No you wouldn't be accused of POINT. We already have people who "oppose for every reason under the sun" and they get away with it. Not that I'm encouraging you to follow suit. — Realist  2  02:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Lara is right, besides this should be taken to Realist's talk page.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 02:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion was long over.  Majorly  talk  02:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't encourage him to bring thing's to my talk page, I'm already archiving what seems like 3 times a week! I really should get one of those auto-archive things. ;-) — Realist  2  13:54, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would. I've been using auto-archiving for months now.  Quite useful.  :D  I think as long as you're able to catch up and respond to everything before the bot archives the posts you'll be fine.  7d seems to be a relatively reasonable time period for the parameters.   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  13:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)